Millennium Revolution -

[jo-b]

1 hour ago, Gordoncruickshank said:

The deck plans are here

http://www.creative.rccl.com/Sales/Celebrity/General_Info/Deck_Plans_Staterooms/Millennium-Deck-plans.pdf

Thanks looks like our cabin is still where it was 

[Jim_Iain]

10 hours ago, Germancruiser said:

I quite agree- people do complain about the slightes things. BUT- X does everything it does to make a profit! Not to humor us...! Their 500 Million Dollar invest in the existing fleet is a clever investement!

 

Yes Celebrity as well as every other company strives to maximize profitability.   After all that is the charter of the company.   I would bet the company you work for also strives to maximize profitability in light of increasing costs.    And I also believe each of us would be upset if our company's goal was to loose money and not pay us wage increases, profit sharing and bonuses.  

 

Yes things are different but so is everything around us -  have you been on an airplane lately?   Remember the days of free luggage, meals on most flights and leg room?   

[h20cruzer]

Still dying to see more pictures of veranda cabins and public spaces. I'm tired of computer renderings.

Bathroom products don't make or break my cruise.

Appreciate everyone's input, that's what these boards are about.

Norma

[Miaminice]

27 minutes ago, Jim_Iain said:

 

Yes Celebrity as well as every other company strives to maximize profitability.   After all that is the charter of the company.   I would bet the company you work for also strives to maximize profitability in light of increasing costs.    And I also believe each of us would be upset if our company's goal was to loose money and not pay us wage increases, profit sharing and bonuses.  

 

Yes things are different but so is everything around us -  have you been on an airplane lately?   Remember the days of free luggage, meals on most flights and leg room?   

 

I think that was what the poster was saying. In short: it’s a corporate business not a charity. I am sure he/she meant it as a fact, not as a complaint.

[missminnie]

Hopefully I've attached this right.  These are not my photo's but was posted on another site by someone currently onboard.

[Jim_Iain]

Just now, Miaminice said:

 

I think that was what the poster was saying. In short: it’s a corporate business not a charity. I am sure he/she meant it as a fact, not as a complaint.

I honestly believe you are correct and I apologize if I offended anyone.  

 

It just irks me when people act as if companies owe us.   The reality is they are in competition with other lines and if they don't give us what we expect we go elsewhere.  If a company can't change to meet the expectation of their customers they go out of business.   Just look at JC Penny's, Sears, KMart and Toy's are Us.   All use to be GREAT companies but just couldn't change their business model to meet the desire of their customers. 

[hcat]

10 hours ago, kwokpot said:

I think this shows there are different toiletries for the higher class rooms. 

Fun Fact: I was a bank branch manager in Manhattan many, many years ago and the original Bigelow Pharmacy was my customer! 

Love CO Bigelow,...we use it in our Fla place..very refreshing !

 

Those huge dispensers are very pricey..we buy smaller guest size ones,. Love the scent for the  shower gel and lotion. I always bring my own shampoo on board..keritin friendly!

[hcat]

6 minutes ago, missminnie said:

Hopefully I've attached this right.  These are not my photo's but was posted on another site by someone currently onboard.

Great photos...Can someone label the areas?

 

The rugs are "dizzingly" hideous..Everything else looks nice..but chairs seem low to the ground....many areas seem to be showing darker in photos than I expected

Edited February 11, 2019 by hcat

[Jim_Iain]

@missminnieThanks for posting the wonderful pictures.   They came through perfectly.   

 

Really excited to see the FIRST pictures.    I love her new outfit. 

 

Edited February 11, 2019 by Jim_Iain

[vtcruising]

Looks like the tiny Edge-like tables on the balconies, though the chairs look like they may recline? 🙂

 

Edited February 11, 2019 by vtcruising

[kwokpot]

5 minutes ago, hcat said:

Great photos...Can someone label the areas?

 

The rugs are "dizzingly" hideous..Everything else looks nice..but chairs seem low to the ground....many areas seem to be showing darker in photos than I expected

 

10 minutes ago, missminnie said:

Hopefully I've attached this right.  These are not my photo's but was posted on another site by someone currently onboard.

The 7th photo from the top seems to be cafe Al Bacio and seems untouched? The carpet pattern is a more traditional print and not in line with the other more artistic contemporary patterns. Additionally, the chairs look older style. Did they not refresh that area?

[Stateroom_Sailor]

25 minutes ago, Jim_Iain said:

I honestly believe you are correct and I apologize if I offended anyone.  

 

It just irks me when people act as if companies owe us.   The reality is they are in competition with other lines and if they don't give us what we expect we go elsewhere.  If a company can't change to meet the expectation of their customers they go out of business.   Just look at JC Penny's, Sears, KMart and Toy's are Us.   All use to be GREAT companies but just couldn't change their business model to meet the desire of their customers. 

 

Sears and Kmart, I totally agree.  JC Penney should be a warning of changing too quickly, and missing the mark of what your customer base wants.  Toys'R'Us couldn't compete with Amazon, and got stuck with isles of unsold Star Wars Toys (also missing the mark in intriguing current children).  Mainly, Toys'R'Us was guilty of it's earlier success, and drowned from its own debt of 6.6 Billion from a leveraged buyout.

 

Edited February 11, 2019 by Stateroom_Sailor

[Stateroom_Sailor]

15 minutes ago, kwokpot said:

 

The 7th photo from the top seems to be cafe Al Bacio and seems untouched? The carpet pattern is a more traditional print and not in line with the other more artistic contemporary patterns. Additionally, the chairs look older style. Did they not refresh that area?

 

I fail to see how these photos are going to be used to draw in new clientele.  We're all bias here though, so maybe it's hard to tell ourselves.  I wander what cruisers from MSC, Royal Caribbean, and Princess would say, if pitched these photos?  Or even non-cruisers, comparing the 4 lines?

[kwokpot]

3 minutes ago, Stateroom_Sailor said:

 

I fail to see how these photos are going to be used to draw in new clientele.  We're all bias here though, so maybe it's hard to tell ourselves.  I wander what cruisers from MSC, Royal Caribbean, and Princess would say, if pitched these photos?  Or even non-cruisers, comparing the 4 lines?

I agree with you but those pictures posted are obviously not professional photos from Celebrity to represent the completed renovations. That's why it's important to have professional shots done where they control the lighting and every other aspect to represent the space as they want to.  

[ecslady]

28 minutes ago, kwokpot said:

 

The 7th photo from the top seems to be cafe Al Bacio and seems untouched? The carpet pattern is a more traditional print and not in line with the other more artistic contemporary patterns. Additionally, the chairs look older style. Did they not refresh that area?

 

I thought the same things about those chairs by the rail in Cafe el Bacio.  I sit there a lot and they didn't look refreshed to me either.

[kwokpot]

1 minute ago, ecslady said:

 

I thought the same things about those chairs by the rail in Cafe el Bacio.  I sit there a lot and they didn't look refreshed to me either.

Ran out of time and still to be done?

[DYKWIA]

1 hour ago, kwokpot said:

Sorry they're NOT meant to be taken home;however, you can always ask for extra bar soap and take that home!

Edit: I'm one of those hotel toiletries hoarders too, and I'm not ashamed to admit it!

 

 

Guilty as charged 🙂  - we love collecting decent toiletries from our stays as well. 

 

Best haul ever, probably our last stay at the MO in HK.  Twice a day they gave a full room replacement of about 8 Acqua Di Parma Colonia  items  - in 4 nights we got about 60 items.   Silly little things like the quality of toiletries makes a difference to us, although hopefully we would never be so mad as to pick a hotel based on toiletries . 

 

Cheap rubbish toiletries in upmarket hotels always feels like an example of Fur Coat no Knickers - (Wynn hotels Desert Bambu was probably the worst we've had in an upmarket hotel - I think Lather made that stuff).  Not a fan of most of the Gilchrist and Soames stuff, we don't bother bringing that back with us. 

[CLT_Deac]

I'm excited to see the photos!  And I'm sure more will be coming in the next few days.  We were on Summit last year and will be again this April (post refurbishment).  IMHO, the biggest changes appear to be in the staterooms and Retreat Lounge (Michael's Club). I really like the lighter colors in those spaces.  Looking forward to pictures of the new Retreat SunDeck!  

[PhoenixCruiser]

People please  STOP quoting ALL of the photos!  If you want to discuss one please remove the others.

[kwokpot]

9 minutes ago, DYKWIA said:

 

Guilty as charged 🙂  - we love collecting decent toiletries from our stays as well. 

 

Best haul ever, probably our last stay at the MO in HK.  Twice a day they gave a full room replacement of about 8 Acqua Di Parma Colonia  items  - in 4 nights we got about 60 items.   Silly little things like the quality of toiletries makes a difference to us, although hopefully we would never be so mad as to pick a hotel based on toiletries . 

 

Cheap rubbish toiletries in upmarket hotels always feels like an example of Fur Coat no Knickers - (Wynn hotels Desert Bambu was probably the worst we've had in an upmarket hotel - I think Lather made that stuff).  Not a fan of most of the Gilchrist and Soames stuff, we don't bother bringing that back with us. 

I agree about Gilchrist and Soames, but I bring them home anyway. 😕 I love the Malin and Goetz product lines. What's most important to me are the body lotions. If I'm going to be out sunning I'm going to need to moisturize my skin after showering off the sunscreen. I take the little bottles with me to use at the gym after my workout, steam, sauna and shower. Which is actually my routine on a cruiseship too! 

Edited February 11, 2019 by kwokpot

[printingchick]

I didn't see anything on the Qsine sign identify Le Petit Chef. Does anyone know what's going on with Qsine? I have reservations for my Summit cruise and I was expecting the Revolution to update ALL the Qsine restaurants to feature Le Petit Chef. Thanks!!

[Miaminice]

1 hour ago, Jim_Iain said:

I honestly believe you are correct and I apologize if I offended anyone.  

 

It just irks me when people act as if companies owe us.   The reality is they are in competition with other lines and if they don't give us what we expect we go elsewhere.  If a company can't change to meet the expectation of their customers they go out of business.   Just look at JC Penny's, Sears, KMart and Toy's are Us.   All use to be GREAT companies but just couldn't change their business model to meet the desire of their customers. 

 

I am 100% with you on that. They are there to make money and they will always choose the path to the higher revenue... rightly so

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The omnipresent feeling of extreme entitlement on the guest side is something that also drives me crazy sometimes.

 

I pay for a cruise and I get a cruise. Up until now all of those cruises were great. I don’t need „free“ drinks and all the stuff which seems so important to some. I also do not expect to be treated any better than a first time cruiser who, for the lack of discounts and perks, actually makes the cruise line more money than I do. 

 

I am happy if Celebrity makes a good profit. 1. because I am a shareholder and 2. because it enables them to create more nice ships for me to enjoy.

[hcat]

On 2/9/2019 at 6:02 PM, C-Dragons said:

The openness of the newly renovated bar will afford very little cover from the sun or rain as the current configurations do as shown above.

Yup...lack of  any cover from wind, sun or rain was a very big miss on EDGE...guess that may be the same on the re done ships...waiting to see what develops bythe time of  our Summit sailing in 2020

[jkgourmet]

22 hours ago, CHEZMARYLOU said:

With all the warnings to avoid over exposure to the sun and to use sun screen I'm surprised Celebrity is moving away from covering out door areas.

 

I'm not.  People will pay for that sunshine.  I don't expect Celebrity to be concerned with sun exposure except as far as it affects the bottom line.  And, as a capitalist, I agree with them.  Wear sunscreen. 

[jkgourmet]

So I'm still looking for a photo of an OV cabin.  This was one that MIGHT have changed the most - from a large square shaped window to a large round window.  Anybody??????