Ken at the beach Posted January 31, 2019 #26 Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Host Clarea said: Not sure I understand this part. I think they were assuming the cards don’t get put outside the doors until just before 1:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted January 31, 2019 #27 Share Posted January 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, Host Clarea said: Not sure I understand this part. If you don't have your cabin key you can't try to go to your cabin early, thereby getting in the crew's way (that may not be a problem on Royal but it was on Carnival). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted January 31, 2019 #28 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: I think they were assuming the cards don’t get put outside the doors until just before 1:00 Maybe Royal does it differently but that is the way Carnival does it, the keys aren't put out until the cabins are actually made available to the passengers. Edited January 31, 2019 by sparks1093 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted January 31, 2019 #29 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 minute ago, sparks1093 said: If you don't have your cabin key you can't try to go to your cabin early, thereby getting in the crew's way (that may not be a problem on Royal but it was on Carnival). Oh, I see. I don't think that was much of a problem on Royal. The fire doors to the passenger corridors are normally closed and they station crewmembers in those areas until the staterooms are ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted January 31, 2019 #30 Share Posted January 31, 2019 11 hours ago, billsr said: I was reading something that mentioned that RCCL no longer issues you a seapass card at check-in counter. They supposedly now hang your seapass cards on the cabin doors. You retrieve your seapass card when the cabin area is opened at 1pm. My concern is how are they protecting my seapass card from being stolen and used to make purchases before I have had a chance to retrieve it. This seems like a major security lapse - it'd be like a credit card company hanging my replacement credit card my house door until I get back from work. I am hoping there is some kind of security control or activation step that ensures the card can only be used/activated by the intended person. Bill Credit card companies send the cards through the mail so basically they are leaving it at your door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted January 31, 2019 #31 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Host Clarea said: Oh, I see. I don't think that was much of a problem on Royal. The fire doors to the passenger corridors are normally closed and they station crewmembers in those areas until the staterooms are ready. They do close the fire doors on Carnival but they don't station crew members there so people can (and do) just barge through. Edited January 31, 2019 by sparks1093 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted January 31, 2019 #32 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, sparks1093 said: They do close the fire doors on Carnival but they don't station crew members there so people can (and do) just barge through. On Royal they are not only closed, but locked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted January 31, 2019 #33 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: On Royal they are not only closed, but locked No the fire doors are never locked. Some of us that do B2B cruises have access to our staterooms at any time. Edited January 31, 2019 by davekathy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted January 31, 2019 #34 Share Posted January 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, davekathy said: No the fire doors are never locked. Some of us that do B2B cruises have access to our staterooms at any time. Agree, I've never seen the fire doors locked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseguy1016 Posted January 31, 2019 #35 Share Posted January 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Iamcruzin said: Credit card companies send the cards through the mail so basically they are leaving it at your door. But no one can use that card until you call to have it activated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofyfanatic Posted January 31, 2019 #36 Share Posted January 31, 2019 48 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: On Royal they are not only closed, but locked I don't think you will ever see a FIRE door locked. If you do...i would say there are bigger problems that can happen other than going to a room early or using someones Seapass Card that is left outside the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted January 31, 2019 #37 Share Posted January 31, 2019 49 minutes ago, Host Clarea said: Agree, I've never seen the fire doors locked. I stand corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulxyz2004 Posted January 31, 2019 #38 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, not-enough-cruising said: On Royal they are not only closed, but locked Of Course the fire doors are not locked, actually firedoors don´t even have locks on them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulxyz2004 Posted January 31, 2019 #39 Share Posted January 31, 2019 2 hours ago, sparks1093 said: Maybe Royal does it differently but that is the way Carnival does it, the keys aren't put out until the cabins are actually made available to the passengers. The keys are out earlier than 1pm. I´ve seen this when on B2B Cruises. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulxyz2004 Posted January 31, 2019 #40 Share Posted January 31, 2019 37 minutes ago, cruiseguy1016 said: But no one can use that card until you call to have it activated. I never had to call to activate a credit Card. I get it mailed and it´s Ready to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted January 31, 2019 #41 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Paulxyz2004 said: I never had to call to activate a credit Card. I get it mailed and it´s Ready to use. Really? Every credit card I've received in the mail in the last 5 years (probably more) has had to be activated by either phone or web site. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulxyz2004 Posted January 31, 2019 #42 Share Posted January 31, 2019 As many said on here, it´s a non-issue. But my Evil side can´t help to Point this out to all the paranoid Folks. With the RFID Cards left outside your cabin, someone could read the information from your Card without tempering the envelop. Then an RFID chip could be coded with your information and open your door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted January 31, 2019 #43 Share Posted January 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Host Clarea said: Really? Every credit card I've received in the mail in the last 5 years (probably more) has had to be activated by either phone or web site. Agee. Just did it yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulxyz2004 Posted January 31, 2019 #44 Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Host Clarea said: Really? Every credit card I've received in the mail in the last 5 years (probably more) has had to be activated by either phone or web site. Yes, I have never had to do this and I´ve had Cards through various Banks and credit Card companies. The pin for the Card is Always sent in a speperate Mailing a couple days apart though. I´m not from the US / Canada, so that might be the difference here. The activating sounds like a good idea, but as I said I never had to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted January 31, 2019 #45 Share Posted January 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Paulxyz2004 said: Yes, I have never had to do this and I´ve had Cards through various Banks and credit Card companies. The pin for the Card is Always sent in a speperate Mailing a couple days apart though. I´m not from the US / Canada, so that might be the difference here. The activating sounds like a good idea, but as I said I never had to do it. OK, the pin might be the difference. Pins for credit cards are not common in the US. Debit cards here have pins, but generally not credit cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofyfanatic Posted January 31, 2019 #46 Share Posted January 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, Paulxyz2004 said: I never had to call to activate a credit Card. I get it mailed and it´s Ready to use. No sticker with a toll free number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofyfanatic Posted January 31, 2019 #47 Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Paulxyz2004 said: Yes, I have never had to do this and I´ve had Cards through various Banks and credit Card companies. The pin for the Card is Always sent in a speperate Mailing a couple days apart though. I´m not from the US / Canada, so that might be the difference here. The activating sounds like a good idea, but as I said I never had to do it. So that makes more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulxyz2004 Posted January 31, 2019 #48 Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Host Clarea said: OK, the pin might be the difference. Pins for credit cards are not common in the US. Debit cards here have pins, but generally not credit cards. We have them for debit Cards and credit Cards, even though I can use any credit Card without the pin as well by signing. The ost Cards now have RFID Chips as well enabling them for contactless payment. Just out of curiousity and not wanting to take this too far OT, without Pins, how do you get cash from ATM´s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted January 31, 2019 #49 Share Posted January 31, 2019 31 minutes ago, Paulxyz2004 said: I never had to call to activate a credit Card. I get it mailed and it´s Ready to use. I have never received a credit card that I didn't have to activate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted January 31, 2019 #50 Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Paulxyz2004 said: We have them for debit Cards and credit Cards, even though I can use any credit Card without the pin as well by signing. The ost Cards now have RFID Chips as well enabling them for contactless payment. Just out of curiousity and not wanting to take this too far OT, without Pins, how do you get cash from ATM´s? I use a debit card at the ATM, which has a PIN. I'm not sure if I could use any of my credit cards at an ATM as none have PINs. I've never tried because getting cash using the credit card would incur a cash advance fee and immediate interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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