Organized Chaos Posted March 25, 2019 #51 Share Posted March 25, 2019 43 minutes ago, lottiegreen56 said: Talked to one of my friends who are in management, she said more cutbacks are coming! You're gonna cause a riot on here. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare richstowe Posted March 25, 2019 #52 Share Posted March 25, 2019 53 minutes ago, lottiegreen56 said: Talked to one of my friends who are in management, she said more cutbacks are coming! You can post this on every single cruise line here on CC , and I don't doubt it's true . From $10 for a second main course on HAL to no more smoked salmon on Celebrity and Norwegian buffets, cutbacks are the course of the day . But will all due respect to one of your friends who are in management, let's get back to pens . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MeganGC1983 Posted March 25, 2019 #53 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Saint Greg said: 10 pens? That’s crazy. I had no idea people were using the ship as an office supply store. Exactly! It’s insane! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micahs Grandad Posted March 25, 2019 #54 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Wonder how much they will actually save by taking away pens? Next we will have to bring on our own soap and shampoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcuchio24 Posted March 25, 2019 #55 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Micah's Grandad said: Wonder how much they will actually save by taking away pens? Next we will have to bring on our own soap and shampoo. I wonder to myself, how many of these cutbacks I would even have noticed except for reading these boards. Under 50% for sure. Probably way under that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lottacruises Posted March 25, 2019 #56 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I didn't realize the pens were for us to take. Are we allowed to take the glasses? How about the metal tray that they leave them and the water on? How about the little tables? The chairs? The sofa cushions, or how about the whole sofa? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmet0225 Posted March 25, 2019 #57 Share Posted March 25, 2019 This topic will likely be the next item that shows up on that thread that lists all of the cutbacks over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiegreen56 Posted March 25, 2019 #58 Share Posted March 25, 2019 It’s just funny that he had the audacity to try to justufy it (with the plastic bottles displayed) could have 1) said nothing or 2) used environment in a more curated setting. it blows my mind how little self-awareness he has. The American Flag comment said it all though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyBeef Posted March 25, 2019 #59 Share Posted March 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, lottiegreen56 said: It’s just funny that he had the audacity to try to justufy it (with the plastic bottles displayed) could have 1) said nothing or 2) used environment in a more curated setting. it blows my mind how little self-awareness he has. The American Flag comment said it all though What American Flag comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keywest1 Posted March 25, 2019 #60 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 hours ago, CruiseRonJulie said: I liked to use my Free Pen to write on the Table Clothes in the MDR. Then I would race down and have my gratuities removed. I always beat you there cause I bought FTTF and got to skip the line at GS😁 I have to say I really liked the pens though. Yes, they were cheap, but it made me happy to use them for work while I dreamt of our next cruise. Hotel pens just don't have that same magic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Saint Greg Posted March 25, 2019 #61 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 hours ago, lottiegreen56 said: Talked to one of my friends who are in management, she said more cutbacks are coming! It’s not straws is it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Saint Greg Posted March 25, 2019 #62 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, elcuchio24 said: I wonder to myself, how many of these cutbacks I would even have noticed except for reading these boards. Under 50% for sure. Probably way under that! I definitely noticed the pen last cruise but only the one time I actually use it which is to fill out my debarkation zone tags. If it weren’t for that I wouldn’t care. Next time I’ll make sure I bring a pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiegreen56 Posted March 25, 2019 #63 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, ShakyBeef said: What American Flag comment? Someone asked if he or she could hang Old Glory off a balcony. He could have just said international law or safety but he had to throw in aesthetics as the reason to say no. Giving him the benefit of the doubt that he meant nothing by it, he’s incredibly tone deaf to have worded it this way. Sorry but aesthetically, the American Flag is the most beautiful thing on earth! 7 minutes ago, Saint Greg said: It’s not straws is it? Not that I heard, wish they’d switch to paper if they cared about the environment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micahs Grandad Posted March 25, 2019 #64 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, dmet0225 said: This topic will likely be the next item that shows up on that thread that lists all of the cutbacks over the years. actually someone will report this thread to JH saying that the people on CC are complaining about all the cutbacks again. We will probably than hear about the brilliant additions such as playlist and hasbro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiegreen56 Posted March 25, 2019 #65 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Micah's Grandad said: actually someone will report this thread to JH saying that the people on CC are complaining about all the cutbacks again. We will probably than hear about the brilliant additions such as playlist and hasbro I hope they let him know how dumb he looked with the bottled water while they are at it! Use my name idc if he never send me gifts! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafedumonde Posted March 25, 2019 #66 Share Posted March 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Micah's Grandad said: actually someone will report this thread to JH saying that the people on CC are complaining about all the cutbacks again. We will probably than hear about the brilliant additions such as playlist and hasbro That Hasbro stuff is meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMAE Posted March 26, 2019 #67 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I'm a big CCL fan, and don't care if they provide a pen, pencil or nothing as long as I can relax on the cruise, I'm good! But I just find this whole thing funny, no pen to help the environment and it might. Maybe BINGO will be next, to save the paper of the cards and plastic of the markers. I guess the 4 beers in bucket deal will have to be reevaluated, because the bucket is plastic. This will not happen because both produce revenue for CCL. Moving from a pen to pencil will saves CCL an estimated $100,000 annually, it's not an environmental issue. The environment claim is marketing ploy to make a segment of CCL guests feel good. I noticed some use the cutback word, I call them changes. Some may be popular, like the Hub App and the 2.0 upgrades, some not so much, no pens, pillow chocolate and table cloths! Life is too fast to sweat the small things. I hope you enjoy your next cruise! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micahs Grandad Posted March 26, 2019 #68 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, JMAE said: I'm a big CCL fan, and don't care if they provide a pen, pencil or nothing as long as I can relax on the cruise, I'm good! But I just find this whole thing funny, no pen to help the environment and it might. Maybe BINGO will be next, to save the paper of the cards and plastic of the markers. I guess the 4 beers in bucket deal will have to be reevaluated, because the bucket is plastic. This will not happen because both produce revenue for CCL. Moving from a pen to pencil will saves CCL an estimated $100,000 annually, it's not an environmental issue. The environment claim is marketing ploy to make a segment of CCL guests feel good. I noticed some use the cutback word, I call them changes. Some may be popular, like the Hub App and the 2.0 upgrades, some not so much, no pens, pillow chocolate and table cloths! Life is too fast to sweat the small things. I hope you enjoy your next cruise! Wonder if they really would save $ 100,000 annually. Cheap pens cannot cost very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micahs Grandad Posted March 26, 2019 #69 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Cafedumonde said: That Hasbro stuff is meh For afternoon entertainment for kids that would be fine. However they replaced flyons with hasbro and that pretty much stinks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyBeef Posted March 26, 2019 #70 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, lottiegreen56 said: Someone asked if he or she could hang Old Glory off a balcony. He could have just said international law or safety but he had to throw in aesthetics as the reason to say no. Giving him the benefit of the doubt that he meant nothing by it, he’s incredibly tone deaf to have worded it this way. Sorry but aesthetically, the American Flag is the most beautiful thing on earth! Oh, OK, thanks. I was confused. I thought I missed a comment about the flag in the video in the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMAE Posted March 26, 2019 #71 Share Posted March 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Micah's Grandad said: Wonder if they really would save $ 100,000 annually. Cheap pens cannot cost very much. .04/pen x 2,000/cruise=$80/ship $80/ship x 26 ships = $2,080/wk $2,080/wk x 52 weeks = $108,160 One is cheap, scale not so much! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiegreen56 Posted March 26, 2019 #72 Share Posted March 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, ShakyBeef said: Oh, OK, thanks. I was confused. I thought I missed a comment about the flag in the video in the OP. Yeah like I said - didn't seem like he actually meant anything by it but was using it as an example of how tone deaf he can be. Admittedly, I was pretty mad about it when I first saw his statement but I just don't think he thinks before he says/posts stuff sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Saint Greg Posted March 26, 2019 #73 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, lottiegreen56 said: Yeah like I said - didn't seem like he actually meant anything by it but was using it as an example of how tone deaf he can be. Admittedly, I was pretty mad about it when I first saw his statement but I just don't think he thinks before he says/posts stuff sometimes. I’m behind on his videos so I haven’t seen it yet. Guarantee he didn’t mean anything by it. Guarantee he’ll be apologizing tomorrow. The amount of scrutiny he goes through is for things he says or doesn’t say is ridiculous. It has nothing to do with the American flag. Imagine if they start letting people hang whatever they want. Imagine all of the sports team flags that would be all over the ship. Edited March 26, 2019 by Saint Greg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted March 26, 2019 #74 Share Posted March 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, Micah's Grandad said: Wonder if they really would save $ 100,000 annually. Cheap pens cannot cost very much. I'm sure that they save much more than that, pens vs. pencils. Small golf pencils are about 7¢ apiece vs. about 45¢ apiece for the plastic triangle pens that they had. Probably cheaper than that in the volume that Carnival would be buying, but that's the prices I can see listed for qty 1000+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Saint Greg Posted March 26, 2019 #75 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Thorncroft said: I'm sure that they save much more than that, pens vs. pencils. Small golf pencils are about 7¢ apiece vs. about 45¢ apiece for the plastic triangle pens that they had. Probably cheaper than that in the volume that Carnival would be buying, but that's the prices I can see listed for qty 1000+. I definitely think they cost more than the 4 cents people are quoting...maybe for a bic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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