Allure - Our room was raided and tossed!

[d9704011]

1 hour ago, Casino Comp Chick said:

I have seen it many times and I also have seen multiple people arrested or thrown off the ship. Bermuda is one of the toughest islands and they bring the dogs on every week. It is considered a cash cow for them because the fines are very high, anywhere from 1k-3k of 50-60 days in jail.

You may view it as a ‘cash cow’; Bermudean authorities may see it as enforcing the law.

[Casino Comp Chick]

8 minutes ago, d9704011 said:

You may view it as a ‘cash cow’; Bermudean authorities may see it as enforcing the law.

 

Hey I am not the drug smuggler so I don’t really care what the offenders get charged but there have been many news articles about it and it is considered to be a money generator for Bermuda...I.e. a cash cow.

[ONECRUISER]

14 minutes ago, Casino Comp Chick said:

 

Hey I am not the drug smuggler so I don’t really care what the offenders get charged but there have been many news articles about it and it is considered to be a money generator for Bermuda...I.e. a cash cow.

Unless they are charging the Inmates for staying in Jail, the Cash Penalty wouldn't really be much of a Cash Cow. Know some places charge the Inmate $50 a day to cover cost of their stay. Think it's like everywhere else some states police let it slide personal use, others its high penalties, Felony charge and mandatory Jail time

Edited May 25, 2019 by ONECRUISER

[d9704011]

13 minutes ago, Casino Comp Chick said:

 

Hey I am not the drug smuggler so I don’t really care what the offenders get charged but there have been many news articles about it and it is considered to be a money generator for Bermuda...I.e. a cash cow.

Guess what, news articles are often opinion pieces with the authors’ own biases and agenda underscoring whatever is being submitted for publishing (or broadcast).

[Casino Comp Chick]

Just now, d9704011 said:

Guess what, news articles are often opinion pieces with the authors’ own biases and agenda underscoring whatever is being submitted for publishing (or broadcast).

 

Ok

You realize I STILL have no horse in this race don’t you?

[d9704011]

Just now, Casino Comp Chick said:

 

Ok

You realize I STILL have no horse in this race don’t you?

Absolutely, yes!

 

[Esmerelda]

Trickie Dickie, first off, I will admit I have not had time to read through all 26 pages of replies here.  Wow...   I am so sorry this happened to you.  I don’t always understand why RC does some of the things they do but it is what it is.  

 

I wanted to add that another person on the FB C/A group just posted this same type of scenario while onboard.  Apparently, this is happening more often. 

 

I hope your next cruise holds no surprises.  

 

[Charles4515]

1 hour ago, Casino Comp Chick said:

 

Hey I am not the drug smuggler so I don’t really care what the offenders get charged but there have been many news articles about it and it is considered to be a money generator for Bermuda...I.e. a cash cow.

 

What news articles that consider it a cash cow?  The articles I read just report the fines. Maybe James Walker LOL.His articles are not news. He does not like Bermuda because it foreign flags cruise ships. The fines will have an impact on the individuals fined but they are hardly add up to a cash cow for Bermuda. Look to the cruise lines for the reason the searches take place. They don't want drugs onboard. The Bermuda police are coming onboard at their behest. The police don't go randomly to cabins. They are tipped off where there might be drugs.

Edited May 25, 2019 by Charles4515

[not-enough-cruising]

19 minutes ago, Esmerelda said:

Trickie Dickie, first off, I will admit I have not had time to read through all 26 pages of replies here.  Wow...   I am so sorry this happened to you.  I don’t always understand why RC does some of the things they do but it is what it is.  

 

I wanted to add that another person on the FB C/A group just posted this same type of scenario while onboard.  Apparently, this is happening more often. 

 

I hope your next cruise holds no surprises.  

 

Royal has nothing to do with this. 

[Tree_skier]

3 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Royal has nothing to do with this. 

You beat me to it.

[Tree_skier]

Personally, I'm glad that CBP is doing it's job to prevent the scourge of drugs from destroying more lives.  As someone who has experience with the pain of loved ones destroying their and others lives through addiction I applaud every effort to prevent it.

 

As a dual resident of both the US and Canada, I am a frequent border crosser. I have had dozens of extensive searches done on me and my property.  Many times they ask very personal questions while questioning me.  Sometimes it is a brief interruption other times it can be extensive and very inconvenient.

 

 However, until you've stared at the dead body of an overdosed family member and tried to explain to a little boy why he has no daddy anymore, you can go on whining about the inconvenience of standing in the hallway of cruise ship in bathrobe for 45 minutes, I'll stand and applaud.

Edited May 25, 2019 by Tree_skier

[Esmerelda]

As I stated, I did not read all 26 pages.  The only info I really read was the beginning.  True, it’s border patrol, immigration, etc but it still took place on a Royal ship. I just made a general statement folks.  Back to your regularly scheduled program. 🙂

[Bee Guy]

9 minutes ago, Esmerelda said:

As I stated, I did not read all 26 pages.  The only info I really read was the beginning.  True, it’s border patrol, immigration, etc but it still took place on a Royal ship. I just made a general statement folks.  Back to your regularly scheduled program. 🙂

It may have been a general statement, but it was made in a very specific context 🙂 .

[GUEST71919]

4 hours ago, Tree_skier said:

Personally, I'm glad that CBP is doing it's job to prevent the scourge of drugs from destroying more lives.  As someone who has experience with the pain of loved ones destroying their and others lives through addiction I applaud every effort to prevent it.

 

As a dual resident of both the US and Canada, I am a frequent border crosser. I have had dozens of extensive searches done on me and my property.  Many times they ask very personal questions while questioning me.  Sometimes it is a brief interruption other times it can be extensive and very inconvenient.

 

 However, until you've stared at the dead body of an overdosed family member and tried to explain to a little boy why he has no daddy anymore, you can go on whining about the inconvenience of standing in the hallway of cruise ship in bathrobe for 45 minutes, I'll stand and applaud.

 

Hmmm that might be a tad (well, more than a tad) dramatic. The OP deserves some empathy for the situation and there is little relationship between this cruise cabin incident and the aforementioned fatherless child.  It truly would take an utter lack of empathy to stand and applaud this situation.

Edited May 25, 2019 by 2Beeze

[Tree_skier]

21 minutes ago, 2Beeze said:

 

Hmmm that might be a tad (well, more than a tad) dramatic. The OP deserves some empathy for the situation and there is little relationship between this cruise cabin incident and the aforementioned fatherless child.  It truly would take an utter lack of empathy to stand and applaud this situation.

Someone died on the previous years charter. The group has a history of illicit drug use onboard. The OP should thank CBP that they did their job and no one had to die like previous years. 

 

Thats TD not a lack of empathy that’s genuine compassion for those might kill themselves. 

Edited May 25, 2019 by Tree_skier

[GUEST71919]

7 minutes ago, Tree_skier said:

Someone died on the previous years charter. The group has a history of illicit drug use onboard. The OP should thank CBP that they did their job and no one had to die like previous years. 

 

That fact does not change the negativity of the experience of the OP. That drug abuse is a problem is an entirely different issue than whether a drug search is legal or not. I don’t think giving up our rights (legal or basic humans ones) will lead to the end of drug abuse. It would be nice if it were that easy. I have to believe that you would not be cheering if the police broke down your door, scared your family, and ransacked your home in search of drugs someone said could be there. Legal?  Yes.  Would you be angry? I would think that answer is also yes. I simply believe that it is possible to show empathy and understanding for both situations (the child and the OP). 

Edited May 25, 2019 by 2Beeze

[chengkp75]

5 hours ago, 2Beeze said:

 

That fact does not change the negativity of the experience of the OP. That drug abuse is a problem is an entirely different issue than whether a drug search is legal or not. I don’t think giving up our rights (legal or basic humans ones) will lead to the end of drug abuse. It would be nice if it were that easy. I have to believe that you would not be cheering if the police broke down your door, scared your family, and ransacked your home in search of drugs someone said could be there. Legal?  Yes.  Would you be angry? I would think that answer is also yes. I simply believe that it is possible to show empathy and understanding for both situations (the child and the OP). 

Not exactly sure what "legal or basic human rights" the OP gave up?  Could you specify?

[GUEST71919]

1 hour ago, chengkp75 said:

Not exactly sure what "legal or basic human rights" the OP gave up?  Could you specify?

 

It was a general point, and in response to another response rather than to the exquisite details of the OP’s experience - but I think you likely understood that. Must we always get down in the short hairs of everything here at CC? The poster to whom I responded seemed to think that only by raiding the OP’s cabin was the world kept safe from all evil. It was and is my opinion that was a bridge way too far. I will go now to finish packing for the Grandeur, I really need a break. Have a grand weekend and a Happy Memorial Day; hopefully you won’t spend a lot more time on this thread as it is becoming silly.

Edited May 26, 2019 by 2Beeze

[ONECRUISER]

1 hour ago, 2Beeze said:

 

It was a general point, and in response to another response rather than to the exquisite details of the OP’s experience - but I think you likely understood that. Must we always get down in the short hairs of everything here at CC? The poster to whom I responded seemed to think that only by raiding the OP’s cabin was the world kept safe from all evil. It was and is my opinion that was a bridge way too far. I will go now to finish packing for the Grandeur, I really need a break. Have a grand weekend and a Happy Memorial Day; hopefully you won’t spend a lot more time on this thread as it is becoming silly.

Feel sorry for OP experience, but if happened to me wouldn't bother me. Years of traveling Solo have been singled out dozens of times. My son has a friend that has been on that cruise in past. Many here don't realize that cruise B2B second leg in the past has had high use of Illegal Drugs, overdoses and resent high profile death. OP cabin had a Drug Dog hit on their cabin, which they did search. OP even mentioned might have hit on his Prescribed Meds. Also it's not just a USA thing. Had friends that crossed over to Canada after a Concert in US, one of these smart guys left a Joint on back window. When questioned I'm sure their responses to Canadian officials probably confirmed that these guys just spent hours getting high. They were strip searched down to underwear, went over their car so well that even took off the door panels. Were allowed to leave and return to US but without putting car back together... What happened to OP might seem out of the ordinary to most, anyone who has watched COPS, LivePD or one of the Border Patrol shows,(all real) would realize these things happen everyday near our Borders. I ended a Cruise week of 9/11, was in Florida when Anthrax scare happened, then finished a another Cruise flying home hrs after Shoe Bomber..."What? Take my shoes off, thats new, didnt have to last week" Times are changing. Now it's Drugs killing hundreds a day

Edited May 26, 2019 by ONECRUISER

[Mawelch]

On ‎5‎/‎25‎/‎2019 at 8:49 AM, BND said:

We've been to Cozumel at least 5 times and every single time they have dogs sniffing for agricultural products as you enter the port shopping area from the ship. Think same place you get your ID checked to go back to the ship. I've also seen multiple youtube videos showing the same.   There's also always trash cans full of fruit and other non-commercial wrapped food products right there.  

 

What we haven't seen in 27 cruises is people arrested or cabins being searched or guarded.  

I have seen dogs in many ports going off the ship and coming back on. I am not saying the OP didn't have his room inspected, I am saying I have never seen it happen myself, where they go into your room and make you stand outside and accuse you of having contraband and then leave.