ALWAYS CRUZIN Posted June 26, 2021 Author #126 Share Posted June 26, 2021 2 hours ago, ldubs said: In "No Time For Sergeants" it was the Permanent Latrine Orderly. 😀 Not in the NAVY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS CRUZIN Posted June 26, 2021 Author #127 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Fore, aft, port, starboard, it dopes not reference the way your are facing. has nothing to do with it. Same with any vehicle. The front of your car is always the front no matter which way your are facing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldsc Posted June 26, 2021 #128 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 hour ago, broberts said: No. A significannt reason for retaining port and starboard is they convey the orientation of the vessel along with the side. I was being somewhat facetious about the fact that we have a 130 post thread about how to remember what is port and starboard. I wasn't being serious. DON 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted June 26, 2021 #129 Share Posted June 26, 2021 39 minutes ago, donaldsc said: I was being somewhat facetious about the fact that we have a 130 post thread about how to remember what is port and starboard. I wasn't being serious. DON Smilies are your friends. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted June 26, 2021 #130 Share Posted June 26, 2021 4 hours ago, ALWAYS CRUZIN said: Fore, aft, port, starboard, it dopes not reference the way your are facing. has nothing to do with it. Same with any vehicle. The front of your car is always the front no matter which way your are facing. But if I'm facing my front towards the rear then my rear is towards the front. 🤔 And, we haven't even started exploring compass points yet! haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted June 26, 2021 #131 Share Posted June 26, 2021 5 hours ago, ALWAYS CRUZIN said: Not in the NAVY! I know. It just made me think of that great scene from that old movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sergel02 Posted July 8, 2021 #132 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) As someone who plays FFXIV the whole starboard and larboard lingo has given me PTSD 😭 Port being 4 letters, same as Left, helps a ton. Also, larboard starts with an L, like left. Aft and bow always seemed easy to remember. Edited July 8, 2021 by sergel02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted July 8, 2021 #133 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, sergel02 said: Aft and bow always seemed easy to remember. Except that "bow" is a location on the ship, and "aft" is a direction. "Bow" and "Stern" are the two ends of a ship. "Forward" and "aft" are directions that you move on a ship, or adjectives to describe locations relative to each's position on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted July 8, 2021 #134 Share Posted July 8, 2021 51 minutes ago, chengkp75 said: Except that "bow" is a location on the ship, and "aft" is a direction. "Bow" and "Stern" are the two ends of a ship. "Forward" and "aft" are directions that you move on a ship, or adjectives to describe locations relative to each's position on the ship. We could get into "abaft" and "athwart". 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sergel02 Posted July 8, 2021 #135 Share Posted July 8, 2021 13 hours ago, chengkp75 said: Except that "bow" is a location on the ship, and "aft" is a direction. "Bow" and "Stern" are the two ends of a ship. "Forward" and "aft" are directions that you move on a ship, or adjectives to describe locations relative to each's position on the ship. Hmm I’ve seen ships name the back the aft, but is it just meaning that you’re heading aft of the ship while you head to the stern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d9704011 Posted July 9, 2021 #136 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, sergel02 said: Hmm I’ve seen ships name the back the aft, but is it just meaning that you’re heading aft of the ship while you head to the stern? Really? I spent a lot of time on ships and never heard the expression 'the aft'. Also, you don't head aft of the ship, that construction is simply not used. When a person says.... I'm going aft, it's understood they are making their way towards the stern. It's not necessary that they go all the way to the stern, just in that general direction relative to where they start from. You wouldn't be strangling the vocabulary just for mischief would you? Edited July 9, 2021 by d9704011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted July 9, 2021 #137 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, sergel02 said: Hmm I’ve seen ships name the back the aft, but is it just meaning that you’re heading aft of the ship while you head to the stern? Please give an example of this. Cruise Critic is the only place I've seen people refer to the stern of a ship as "the aft", or "show me your aft". "Aft" is an adjective or adverb, not a noun. There may be areas of the ship called the "aft restaurant", or the "aft stairs", but again, "aft" is the adjective describing the noun, and referring to a relative location of the stairs in regards to other stairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted July 9, 2021 #138 Share Posted July 9, 2021 The bow (location) is forward (direction) -, as the stern (location) is aft (direction). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sergel02 Posted July 9, 2021 #139 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, d9704011 said: You wouldn't be strangling the vocabulary just for mischief would you? Nope. If I truly wanted to be mischievous there would be more fun ways to do it. 4 hours ago, chengkp75 said: Please give an example of this. Cruise Critic is the only place I've seen people refer to the stern of a ship as "the aft", or "show me your aft". "Aft" is an adjective or adverb, not a noun. There may be areas of the ship called the "aft restaurant", or the "aft stairs", but again, "aft" is the adjective describing the noun, and referring to a relative location of the stairs in regards to other stairs. Maybe one reason it confused me is when booking staterooms. Not sure if the links will work, but when I booked a random room on Royal Caribbean’s site, it breaks the sections to Aft, Midship, and Foward. Those are referring to the directions you’re heading, and it makes sense if I actually say it aloud. Like I would say “my cabin is midship”, not really that “my cabin is in the midship”, so it makes sense to say “my cabin is aft” and not in “the aft” But it’s not so odd that others may get confused like me lol. Doesn’t help that different cruise lines label them differently on their sites. Carnival just lists them as Back, Middle, and Foward I’ve heard youtubers refer to places as “the aft” Like at 1:50 here but maybe they’re cruise critic users too haha I did stumble upon this pic though which helps. Edited July 9, 2021 by sergel02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted July 9, 2021 #140 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 hours ago, sergel02 said: Not sure if the links will work, but when I booked a random room on Royal Caribbean’s site, it breaks the sections to Aft, Midship, and Foward. Those are referring to the directions you’re heading, and it makes sense if I actually say it aloud. Like I would say “my cabin is midship”, not really that “my cabin is in the midship”, so it makes sense to say “my cabin is aft” and not in “the aft” The descriptions of cabins as "aft, midship, and forward" are the other definition of those terms, not a direction (adverb modifying the verb "to go"), but the adjective, signifying the location with respect to other cabins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS CRUZIN Posted July 9, 2021 Author #141 Share Posted July 9, 2021 13 hours ago, navybankerteacher said: The bow (location) is forward (direction) -, as the stern (location) is aft (direction). Correct. Aft, in nautical terminology, is an adjective or adverb meaning, towards the stern (rear) of the ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted July 27, 2021 #142 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) Seems to me that understanding the terms port, starboard, etc. is not such a mentally challenging exercise that one has to make up dittos to remember it. Edited July 27, 2021 by iancal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BklynBoy8 Posted July 27, 2021 #143 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I remember that Port and Starboard in to fashions. Port is Left Starboard is Right Also I remember it this way. Power Steering........ P first Port and S is second Starboard....... Power (Port) - Steering (Starboard).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted July 27, 2021 #144 Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 hours ago, BklynBoy8 said: I remember that Port and Starboard in to fashions. Port is Left Starboard is Right Also I remember it this way. Power Steering........ P first Port and S is second Starboard....... Power (Port) - Steering (Starboard).. WHAT????? Why not an easy one - perhaps something like: Near the PORT of Los Angeles there is a place called Hollywood where there is group of people - known as a BOARD who select actors to win awards - each actor selected becomes known as a STAR -- so that group of people gets called the STARBOARD, Now all you have to do is remember that Port is on your left as you face the bow and Starboard is on your right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted July 28, 2021 #145 Share Posted July 28, 2021 7 hours ago, iancal said: Seems to me that understanding the terms port, starboard, etc. is not such a mentally challenging exercise that one has to make up dittos to remember it. How does understanding terms have anything to do with knowing the correct labels? I understand the periodic table but have never been able to memorize even the first few elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d9704011 Posted July 28, 2021 #146 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, broberts said: How does understanding terms have anything to do with knowing the correct labels? I understand the periodic table but have never been able to memorize even the first few elements. I'm sure you remember though, that Hydrogen and the Alkali Metals are often depicted on the left-hand (port) side of the Perodic Table and the Noble Gases on the right-hand side (starboard). Edited July 28, 2021 by d9704011 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BklynBoy8 Posted July 28, 2021 #147 Share Posted July 28, 2021 How about Bow, Forward, Aft, Stern another set of terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS CRUZIN Posted July 28, 2021 Author #148 Share Posted July 28, 2021 18 hours ago, BklynBoy8 said: I remember that Port and Starboard in to fashions. Port is Left Starboard is Right Also I remember it this way. Power Steering........ P first Port and S is second Starboard....... Power (Port) - Steering (Starboard).. TOOOO difficult. Port, 4 letters. Left, 4 letters. Port wine RED (The color of the light on the port side) so easy. Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted July 28, 2021 #149 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, ALWAYS CRUZIN said: The color of the light on the port side On the ship? Edited July 28, 2021 by broberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BklynBoy8 Posted July 29, 2021 #150 Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 hours ago, broberts said: On the ship? Red on Port and Green on Starboard..... I remember standing by the Port (Red) light on the QE2 departing the harbor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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