I’ve seen enough, I cancelled

[Judyrem]

8 minutes ago, Luvnthislife said:

We canceled as well out Alaskan Cruise in June. First reason is because of the Canadian port closing. RC is dragging their feet on communicating to us. The least you could do is acknowledge the announcement has caused concern. The second is the 90 day 100% refund window. We'd rather have all our money back and decide how we want to vacation when all this is over rather than a lesser amount later. Third, if we took the FCC who's to say we'd get to use it by next Dec? Most people book their cruises over a year out and now everyone from this cruise season is supposed to try and find a cruise next year or lose it? Good luck. Finally, there is the possibility of them clearing the cruise just to get money and it starts all over. Just wait it out.

Very good points.

[loveheart]

I am in the UK and have been told by my TA that even if Royal cancel my June cruise they will only issue me with credit. As I am flying to Barcelona and staying in a hotel for 1 night I will only get the value of the cruise back in credit and not the money for the flight and hotel. I will also lose my £700.00 deposit  if I cancel now. Although if I rebook a future cruise right away that £700.00 will be transferred to the new cruise.  I have 2 days to decide whether to pay the balance or cut my loses and cancel.

[20165]

13 minutes ago, Luvnthislife said:

We canceled as well out Alaskan Cruise in June. First reason is because of the Canadian port closing. RC is dragging their feet on communicating to us. The least you could do is acknowledge the announcement has caused concern. The second is the 90 day 100% refund window. We'd rather have all our money back and decide how we want to vacation when all this is over rather than a lesser amount later. Third, if we took the FCC who's to say we'd get to use it by next Dec? Most people book their cruises over a year out and now everyone from this cruise season is supposed to try and find a cruise next year or lose it? Good luck. Finally, there is the possibility of them clearing the cruise just to get money and it starts all over. Just wait it out.

Cruise lines are in a really bad situation so i think the communication we get going forward will be either slow or reactive based on how the next couple of weeks play out.  I dont think they can say we are going to cancel all cruises for the next 90 days and  hope they have enough cash on hand to weather that and the possibly of lower cruise ship capacity after that.  

We cancelled our cruise last week and dont plan on using the FCC until at least the end of the year or sometime next year and i dont think im alone which will further impact the recovery if the ships dont sail full or have to significantly discount the prices to fill them.

[firefly333]

26 minutes ago, Judyrem said:

I think one thing we are missing here is that many ports will be closed for 60 days.

We can't just hang out at Coco Cay, even though it is very nice.😉

 

I really was looking forward to my cruise with my granddaughter, I had so many fun things planned for us and I am heart sore that I have to cancel.😔

I mentioned that there will be more cases in mexico and other ports.

 

I dont think I missed it at all.

 

In fact I heard the president of mexico was sneering at our precautions and holding large festivals as recently as last weekend. That there may be a new surge at the border and texas Ariz and Calif at risk.

 

.... which is why I mentioned mexico in particular... sick people coming over our border could make the US situation worse ... and cruising. I think this is far from over if other countries wouldnt take precautions.

 

I'm just suggesting we be patient with rcl cancelling and refunds. .. and I'm hoping for a vaccine sooner rather than later or next winters cruises also in jeopardy.

[20165]

9 minutes ago, loveheart said:

I am in the UK and have been told by my TA that even if Royal cancel my June cruise they will only issue me with credit. As I am flying to Barcelona and staying in a hotel for 1 night I will only get the value of the cruise back in credit and not the money for the flight and hotel. I will also lose my £700.00 deposit  if I cancel now. Although if I rebook a future cruise right away that £700.00 will be transferred to the new cruise.  I have 2 days to decide whether to pay the balance or cut my loses and cancel.

exactly where we were last week.  we took the FCC and ran.  Who's to say how this will eventually play out.  Do you want to be into RCL for 700 or the full price of the cruise?

[orville99]

We thoroughly expect that our May cruises will be cancelled, but will wait to cancel because of the way that RCL handled the FCC/Refund options for their March and April cancellations. Willing to take a 125% FCC on our May cruises, and have the Cruise with Confidence FCC program as a backstop if they don't. One way or another, we've already made the personal decision not to cruise in May or June. Our July cruises are 50/50 possibility depending on how the next month or two go.

[loveheart]

32 minutes ago, loveheart said:

I am in the UK and have been told by my TA that even if Royal cancel my June cruise they will only issue me with credit. As I am flying to Barcelona and staying in a hotel for 1 night I will only get the value of the cruise back in credit and not the money for the flight and hotel. I will also lose my £700.00 deposit  if I cancel now. Although if I rebook a future cruise right away that £700.00 will be transferred to the new cruise.  I have 2 days to decide whether to pay the balance or cut my loses and cancel.

My TA didn't mention 125% FCC if Royal cancel so is this just if booked direct with them and not through a TA does any one know?

[WeLuvVacation]

Agree with those who have May cruises pending and are waiting it out to see if Royal cancels at some point. Ours is 5/17 on Oasis out of Bayonne. NYC and tri-state area (NY, NJ, CT) are on a total lock down now no gatherings of 10 or more. If that rule plays out until 5/17,  lets say, how are you going to be able to board a ship in a terminal where only 9 or fewer can be together at once? My wife is being forced to work at home for at least 5 of the next 10 work days to minimize contact. All bars and restaurants are closed except to pick up and delivery. All casinos are closed, even the bowling lanes and libraries are closed. Schools of course are closed.

[firefly333]

5 minutes ago, loveheart said:

My TA didn't mention 125% FCC if Royal cancel so is this just if booked direct with them and not through a TA does any one know?

If your cruise was cancelled by rcl it will automatically trigger a 125% fcc if you do nothing.

 

If you want a refund then your ta has to contact them

 

Terms are stated in some other threads.

 

Could be different outside the USA 

[firefly333]

11 minutes ago, WeLuvVacation said:

Agree with those who have May cruises pending and are waiting it out to see if Royal cancels at some point. Ours is 5/17 on Oasis out of Bayonne. NYC and tri-state area (NY, NJ, CT) are on a total lock down now no gatherings of 10 or more. If that rule plays out until 5/17,  lets say, how are you going to be able to board a ship in a terminal where only 9 or fewer can be together at once? My wife is being forced to work at home for at least 5 of the next 10 work days to minimize contact. All bars and restaurants are closed except to pick up and delivery. All casinos are closed, even the bowling lanes and libraries are closed. Schools of course are closed.

So there are no flights out of ny anymore? 

 

Here airports and I would assume if we had a port are exempt from that rule.

 

  ... we have a couple of other exemptions to the gathering rule, 

 

We just dont know if you ask me when cruises will resume. So many making assumptions. I'm hoping next winter is ok, but we dont know.

 

 

Edited March 18, 2020 by firefly333

[frito58]

We are supposed to be on the Anthem on 5/29 out of South Hampton was planning on going in on 5/23 and some pre stuff in France and Amsterdam. At this point since we are both in our 60s I really don't see us going but am waiting until April to just see what happens . Don't see this just miraculously disappearing by then . But just waiting to see the cruise lines next move Kind like a slow game of chess lol.

[Snit13]

1 hour ago, Crazy planning mom said:

 They will continue to cancel as long as the number of people infected continues to grow.  The rules can be modified if things were to improve or extended if they continue to worsen.

Wonder why the number of people infected continues to grow.  Could it be that people are not listening and following the suggested guidelines?  Some people I know and have talked with don't have a clue but they are wondering why the shelves are bare at their favorite grocery store.  I am hunkered down at home watching my grass grow.  Would love for everyone to be able to do the same so we can get this over with.  Have a cruise in June and seriously doubt I will be headed to Europe.  April cruise already cancelled.

[Hoopster95]

I think RCL has made a serious mistake in my humble and business-ignorant opinion, unlike most other cruise lines who have offered cancellations through to end of May, Royal chose to only offer cancellations through to April 13. 

 

A couple of weeks ago when the cancellations were announced, I wonder how many of us booked through to May would have taken the 125% FCC and RCL would have our money still in their accounts. I feel many cruisers would be looking at that as an opportunity to make 25% profit, vs. just the refund? Today, knowing how serious things are becoming in the markets and so forth, I dare say a very large majority will outright take the refund in cash... no more cash in RCL's accounts when they announce further cancellations.

[SarahD112]

30 minutes ago, loveheart said:

My TA didn't mention 125% FCC if Royal cancel so is this just if booked direct with them and not through a TA does any one know?

Check the UK Royal website. It’s a different market than US, so may have different cancellation policy. Almost like separate companies. We are supposed to be sailing out of Southampton on May 29 with English friends. Even though our reservation numbers were linked I couldn’t make dining reservations for all of us because our cruises were sold by different markets. But your website should be updated. 

[orville99]

7 minutes ago, Snit13 said:

Wonder why the number of people infected continues to grow.  Could it be that people are not listening and following the suggested guidelines?  Some people I know and have talked with don't have a clue but they are wondering why the shelves are bare at their favorite grocery store.  I am hunkered down at home watching my grass grow.  Would love for everyone to be able to do the same so we can get this over with.  Have a cruise in June and seriously doubt I will be headed to Europe.  April cruise already cancelled.

1) According to the CDC and NIH the incubation period is between 4-11 days, so people may have been walking around infecting other people for the last two weeks without showing any symptoms, and

 

2) Generational cord-cutting. We have a daughter in her 30's that doesn't have any live or streamed TV If it's not on Apple TV's YouTube channel, she will never see it. Hasn't had any contact with live, local, or national news for the past few years. Her family is probably not at all unique to her generation. She didn't even know that the Feds had waived the interest on her student loans until we told her.

[time4u2go]

44 minutes ago, Snit13 said:

Wonder why the number of people infected continues to grow.  Could it be that people are not listening and following the suggested guidelines?  Some people I know and have talked with don't have a clue but they are wondering why the shelves are bare at their favorite grocery store.  I am hunkered down at home watching my grass grow.  Would love for everyone to be able to do the same so we can get this over with.  Have a cruise in June and seriously doubt I will be headed to Europe.  April cruise already cancelled.

While I agree that people are not listening and following the suggested guidelines, a major reason that the number of infected continues to grow is because more testing kits are becoming available to test people.

[grandgeezer]

1 hour ago, Hoopster95 said:

I think RCL has made a serious mistake in my humble and business-ignorant opinion, unlike most other cruise lines who have offered cancellations through to end of May, Royal chose to only offer cancellations through to April 13. 

 

A couple of weeks ago when the cancellations were announced, I wonder how many of us booked through to May would have taken the 125% FCC and RCL would have our money still in their accounts. I feel many cruisers would be looking at that as an opportunity to make 25% profit, vs. just the refund? Today, knowing how serious things are becoming in the markets and so forth, I dare say a very large majority will outright take the refund in cash... no more cash in RCL's accounts when they announce further cancellations.

You make a profit if you can book the same cruise for the same price you paid for the cancelled one, sailing on the same ship, same date. For kicks I picked out a cruise that would be covered by the cancellation policy and compared it to the exact same one in 2021. 25% isn't enough.

[gold]

I don't think I would call it a profit as you still have to use the FCC by 12/31/2021. Meaning if you have FCC left over you would have to book another cruise

[SarahD112]

At least the future cruise credit is good until the end of 2021. We have to use our American Airlines money by August 23rd, one year from the date we purchased. Their policy is one year or the end of 2020 - whichever comes EARLIER. Thank goodness three of us used miles. We’ll still have to fly American to make use of the taxes and fees portion, but at least we’re not out over $4000. I have one kid in high school and another in college - we can’t reschedule a trip to Europe for this summer. Summer too uncertain, high schooler back in school the first week of August. 🤷🏻‍♀️ 

[KelSny1011]

4 hours ago, Hoopster95 said:

I think RCL has made a serious mistake in my humble and business-ignorant opinion, unlike most other cruise lines who have offered cancellations through to end of May, Royal chose to only offer cancellations through to April 13. 

 

A couple of weeks ago when the cancellations were announced, I wonder how many of us booked through to May would have taken the 125% FCC and RCL would have our money still in their accounts. I feel many cruisers would be looking at that as an opportunity to make 25% profit, vs. just the refund? Today, knowing how serious things are becoming in the markets and so forth, I dare say a very large majority will outright take the refund in cash... no more cash in RCL's accounts when they announce further cancellations.

 

What's concerning for many of us is that we might not have a job after this all settles therefore having a FCC won't do us much good.  😐

 

Edit to add - I still riding out for a refund vs. a FCC

Edited March 18, 2020 by KelSny1011
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[firefly333]

4 hours ago, Snit13 said:

Wonder why the number of people infected continues to grow.  Could it be that people are not listening and following the suggested guidelines?  Some people I know and have talked with don't have a clue but they are wondering why the shelves are bare at their favorite grocery store.  I am hunkered down at home watching my grass grow.  Would love for everyone to be able to do the same so we can get this over with.  Have a cruise in June and seriously doubt I will be headed to Europe.  April cruise already cancelled.

I just saw my at risk sister and older brother in law. They went to Ihop for breakfast and were surprised the dining room was closed.

 

They called the pastor who is still holding their church prayer meeting tonight. I said no more than 10 allowed in a group or you could be fined. He was like by who? Gods laws trump any others.

 

I'm not aware of where it says in the bible you should meet in groups to pray during at risk medical times. I must have missed that law.

 

Churches here defiantly ignoring the shelter in place rules.

 

I see no stopping this virus. Too many people think they are special.

[firefly333]

3 hours ago, grandgeezer said:

You make a profit if you can book the same cruise for the same price you paid for the cancelled one, sailing on the same ship, same date. For kicks I picked out a cruise that would be covered by the cancellation policy and compared it to the exact same one in 2021. 25% isn't enough.

I'm very curious how the fcc would work if I get one.

 

So they said book another cruise, so does the fcc cover part of the deposit? The port fees and taxes refunded, the fcc just 125% of the cruise fare. Does it cover any of the new port fees and taxes?

 

If it doesnt cover the deposit or taxes and fees, I may have left over fcc. Carnival board says you can apply the left over as obc. I hear not on royal, I'd have to book another cruise to use up left overs... if the fcc doesnt cover any of my already made deposit.

 

I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Stressed enough.

 

Hey maybe my april 26th cruise will still happen?

 

One day at a time.

[BeachChik]

7 hours ago, rtazz17 said:

Lol,this crap with everyone thinking they know whats going to happen has to stop. The 8 week distancing isnt something every business has to do. Its a guideline. Imagine what this economy wouldbe like if this goes past march 31st? Stop with the crystal ball crap. You are guessing plain and simple. Dont add to the panic.

This👆
 

Any timeframe at this point is pure speculation and only causes panic. I’m so tired of the people that act like they know exactly what’s going to happen. 

[12bflying]

We have an Alaska land/sea scheduled for 5/31-6/12 on Radiance. We've already decided we aren't going and as many are waiting to see if RCCL cancels the cruise. If we do cancel and take the 125% offer, I am assuming that will include the "land" portion of the trip?

[dani negreanu]

On 3/15/2020 at 5:17 AM, jknc said:

Countries with higher new Covid19 case counts than US in past 24 hours all have one thing in common: they’ve all gone on total lockdown.

 

We have now 433 cases and are in total lockdown from Monday... Small (and dense) country...

 

Bad situation all around.