Happily@Sea Posted April 21, 2020 #51 Share Posted April 21, 2020 As usual - no toots from Veendam. 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted April 21, 2020 #52 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Was hoping for more some more toots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vict0riann Posted April 21, 2020 #53 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Farewell, Veendam. It's a different world, now, isn't it? I wonder if things will ever go back to they way they were and we'll have proper sailaways again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Pete Cruiser Posted April 21, 2020 #54 Share Posted April 21, 2020 The few on deck looked sad. Hurry back Veendam. Tampa is suppose to have her in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandb Posted April 21, 2020 #55 Share Posted April 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, St Pete Cruiser said: The few on deck looked sad. Hurry back Veendam. Tampa is suppose to have her in November. Which cruises will she do from Tampa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Pete Cruiser Posted April 21, 2020 #56 Share Posted April 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, wandb said: Which cruises will she do from Tampa? Basically the same Tampa itineraries as before: 7 day to the western Caribbean and the 14 day to the eastern and southern Caribbean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted April 21, 2020 #57 Share Posted April 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, St Pete Cruiser said: The few on deck looked sad. Hurry back Veendam. Tampa is suppose to have her in November. Veendam is going to the Bahama anchorage to join Nieuw A for crew transfers by tender (from other HAL Group ships), then departing for South AFrica and Asia - She won't be back in the sunshine state for some time, November is about right 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted April 21, 2020 #58 Share Posted April 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, Vict0riann said: Farewell, Veendam. It's a different world, now, isn't it? I wonder if things will ever go back to they way they were and we'll have proper sailaways again! YES, things WILL settle down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted April 21, 2020 #59 Share Posted April 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said: Veendam is going to the Bahama anchorage to join Nieuw A for crew transfers by tender (from other HAL Group ships), then departing for South AFrica and Asia - She won't be back in the sunshine state for some time, November is about right 😉 That is at the end of the hurricane season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipper's Mom Posted April 21, 2020 #60 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Zuiderdam just announced departure at 1930. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Pete Cruiser Posted April 21, 2020 #61 Share Posted April 21, 2020 47 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said: Veendam is going to the Bahama anchorage to join Nieuw A for crew transfers by tender (from other HAL Group ships), then departing for South AFrica and Asia - She won't be back in the sunshine state for some time, November is about right 😉 Thanks for this update. Sounds like a world cruise in reverse. I'm watching the business news and oil is going begging it seems with a lack of demand and too much supply. Do you think Carnival will be able to "fill up" all these ships at super low prices? I know they are burning through $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted April 21, 2020 #62 Share Posted April 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, St Pete Cruiser said: Thanks for this update. Sounds like a world cruise in reverse. I'm watching the business news and oil is going begging it seems with a lack of demand and too much supply. Do you think Carnival will be able to "fill up" all these ships at super low prices? I know they are burning through $$$. Based on today's price of oil, or lack thereof, I would think so, yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted April 21, 2020 #63 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I see that the Zuiderdam's time has been changed to 19:30. Sorry I will miss seeing her leave Ft Lauderdale today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted April 21, 2020 Author #64 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Krazy Kruizers said: I see that the Zuiderdam's time has been changed to 19:30. Sorry I will miss seeing her leave Ft Lauderdale today. Have a great evening. Volendam is scheduled for 6:30AM tomorrow. That's pilot time so she should be on camera about 7 or a little later. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted April 21, 2020 #65 Share Posted April 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, Krazy Kruizers said: I see that the Zuiderdam's time has been changed to 19:30. Sorry I will miss seeing her leave Ft Lauderdale today. That woul be 7:30 EDT and 6:30 CDT. I hope to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted April 21, 2020 Author #66 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Himself said: That woul be 7:30 EDT and 6:30 CDT. I hope to be there. Only 20 more minutes (hopefully). Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkacruiser Posted April 21, 2020 #67 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, St Pete Cruiser said: Thanks for this update. Sounds like a world cruise in reverse. I'm watching the business news and oil is going begging it seems with a lack of demand and too much supply. Do you think Carnival will be able to "fill up" all these ships at super low prices? I know they are burning through $$$. I remember that some cruise companies have invested in oil future contracts in the past and some didn't. I don't accurately recall what Carnival Corporation has done. As one who really never has completely understood how the futures market operates, it does seem to me to make good business sense to buy some futures in order to receive the product at some point in the future at a good price. But, then, if cash flow is negative (as I am sure it is), is this how a company wants to spend what cash it has? (I should have taken Econ 201 when I was in college.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat shepard Posted April 21, 2020 #68 Share Posted April 21, 2020 And there she is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happily@Sea Posted April 21, 2020 #69 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Zuidy in view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted April 21, 2020 #70 Share Posted April 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, rafinmd said: Only 20 more minutes (hopefully). Roy 7:45 EDT and nothing Yet with the Zuiderdam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkacruiser Posted April 21, 2020 #71 Share Posted April 21, 2020 It seems odd to me to be watching a HAL sailaway at this time of the evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF65 Posted April 21, 2020 #72 Share Posted April 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, rkacruiser said: I remember that some cruise companies have invested in oil future contracts in the past and some didn't. I don't accurately recall what Carnival Corporation has done. As one who really never has completely understood how the futures market operates, it does seem to me to make good business sense to buy some futures in order to receive the product at some point in the future at a good price. But, then, if cash flow is negative (as I am sure it is), is this how a company wants to spend what cash it has? (I should have taken Econ 201 when I was in college.) Many companies that trade internationally enter into currency longs ( buy at fixed price in the future) and shorts (sell at a lower price in the future) to hedge the market for price stability. I imagine large consumers of fuel would do the same thing to provide price stability. Buying fuel for delivery 3 months in advance at a fixed price provides price stability, the problem is if they entered into long future contracts in January or February that were for April and May delivery then they will be paying a higher than market price / or not take a delivery and take a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted April 21, 2020 Author #73 Share Posted April 21, 2020 On the way! Rounding the bend. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyV Posted April 21, 2020 #74 Share Posted April 21, 2020 There she goes! They're running 15-20 minutes late lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted April 21, 2020 #75 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Himself said: 7:45 EDT and nothing Yet with the Zuiderdam There she is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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