Rare EllieinNJ Posted November 2, 2020 #1 Share Posted November 2, 2020 https://www.ncl.com/suspended-sailings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Dave Posted November 2, 2020 #2 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Sad but necessary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallux Posted November 2, 2020 #3 Share Posted November 2, 2020 With the CDC framework release, the fate of December cruises seemed a foregone conclusion. There was something about a 28-day waiting period to re-enter US waters, for those ships that sailed East. Then there is the hiring, quarantining, COVID testing and training of the crew. Then the test cruises, which could last a month. January is a possibility, but I wouldn't put money on early January sailings happening. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted November 2, 2020 #4 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Expected to comply with the new framework. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Dave Posted November 2, 2020 #5 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Royal made a statement that said the CDC new requirements would add weeks or months to any return of passengers. I expect we may now see no cruises by any of the majors until mid-to-late spring, 2021. "Please bear with us as we review and modify all of our ship deployments and planned itineraries in order meet the terms and conditions of the CDC Framework for Conditional Sailing dated Oct. 30, 2020. We will then need to decide which ships we can sail at any given time and prepare and submit the necessary application materials for each ship selected to the CDC for their approval. This will be a process that will take weeks, if not months, to accomplish for our fleet across our brands." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsTabbyKats Posted November 2, 2020 #6 Share Posted November 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, GA Dave said: Royal made a statement that said the CDC new requirements would add weeks or months to any return of passengers. I expect we may now see no cruises by any of the majors until mid-to-late spring, 2021. "Please bear with us as we review and modify all of our ship deployments and planned itineraries in order meet the terms and conditions of the CDC Framework for Conditional Sailing dated Oct. 30, 2020. We will then need to decide which ships we can sail at any given time and prepare and submit the necessary application materials for each ship selected to the CDC for their approval. This will be a process that will take weeks, if not months, to accomplish for our fleet across our brands." Mid to late spring...2021 What I've been predicting for months. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted November 2, 2020 #7 Share Posted November 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, GA Dave said: Royal made a statement that said the CDC new requirements would add weeks or months to any return of passengers. I expect we may now see no cruises by any of the majors until mid-to-late spring, 2021. "Please bear with us as we review and modify all of our ship deployments and planned itineraries in order meet the terms and conditions of the CDC Framework for Conditional Sailing dated Oct. 30, 2020. We will then need to decide which ships we can sail at any given time and prepare and submit the necessary application materials for each ship selected to the CDC for their approval. This will be a process that will take weeks, if not months, to accomplish for our fleet across our brands." Do you have a source for this quote? I put it into google and duckduckgo and can not find a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallux Posted November 2, 2020 #8 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said: Do you have a source for this quote? I put it into google and duckduckgo and can not find a match. edit: sorry, it did NOT have that quote in it... Edited November 2, 2020 by hallux 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Dave Posted November 2, 2020 #9 Share Posted November 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said: Do you have a source for this quote? I put it into google and duckduckgo and can not find a match. See posts 354 & 356. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted November 2, 2020 #10 Share Posted November 2, 2020 @GA Dave thank you. Post #354 is what RCL released on their website. The webside has omitted the last sentence of your quote. Post #356 implies some insider information (referring to an missing final paragraph in the draft) and adds the sentence "This will be a process that will take weeks, if not months, to accomplish for our fleet across our brands." If RCL has actually gone public staying it's possibly going to be months, I expect a wild ride on the NYSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeinaz Posted November 2, 2020 #11 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, GA Dave said: Royal made a statement that said the CDC new requirements would add weeks or months to any return of passengers. I expect we may now see no cruises by any of the majors until mid-to-late spring, 2021. "Please bear with us as we review and modify all of our ship deployments and planned itineraries in order meet the terms and conditions of the CDC Framework for Conditional Sailing dated Oct. 30, 2020. We will then need to decide which ships we can sail at any given time and prepare and submit the necessary application materials for each ship selected to the CDC for their approval. This will be a process that will take weeks, if not months, to accomplish for our fleet across our brands." Is it possible they were stating that it would take months to get the entire fleet back out? I don't see why they would even mention weeks if there was the possibility that not even 1 ship being able to get its COVID certification in that timeframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbboers Posted November 2, 2020 #12 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Also cruises that are longer than 7 days will not be allowed. The CDC is upset that they could not extend their NO SAIL order and have put in place 40 pages of requirements that cannot be done. Very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krittykat Posted November 2, 2020 #13 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Glad I rebooked my December cruise for Dec 2021 earlier this year. Got a much better deal than the 10% off they are offering and was able to upgrade cabin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallux Posted November 2, 2020 #14 Share Posted November 2, 2020 36 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said: Post #356 implies some insider information (referring to an missing final paragraph in the draft) and adds the sentence "This will be a process that will take weeks, if not months, to accomplish for our fleet across our brands." I sear I saw this statement someplace earlier when I made my edited post. I did not read it in that thread though. 12 minutes ago, hbboers said: The CDC is upset that they could not extend their NO SAIL order and have put in place 40 pages of requirements that cannot be done. Did you read it? Half of the document is "why are we doing this" and definitions. The actual requirements are only about 20 pages. So far, from what I've heard, it seems that the goal can be accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaja Posted November 2, 2020 #15 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Totally expected. Sad..but expected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger001 Posted November 2, 2020 #16 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, BermudaBound2014 said: @GA Dave thank you. If RCL has actually gone public staying it's possibly going to be months, I expect a wild ride on the NYSE. The market is up $426 at the moment but the cruise lines are all down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbboers Posted November 2, 2020 #17 Share Posted November 2, 2020 53 minutes ago, hallux said: I sear I saw this statement someplace earlier when I made my edited post. I did not read it in that thread though Did you read it? Half of the document is "why are we doing this" and definitions. The actual requirements are only about 20 pages. So far, from what I've heard, it seems that the goal can be accomplished. What I read is this article on Cruise Radio https://cruiseradio.net/explained-the-cdcs-conditional-sailing-order-for-cruise-ships/ This is where I read about no cruises longer than 7 days. It also says all the conditions are subject to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallux Posted November 2, 2020 #18 Share Posted November 2, 2020 @hbboers I was specifically commenting on your words "requirements that cannot be done". What in there do you believe can't be done? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallux Posted November 2, 2020 #19 Share Posted November 2, 2020 So, the 28-day waiting period I mentioned is actually a CDC reporting requirement for entering US waters or ports. The ships need to have a rolling 28 days of EDC reports regarding virus activity on board on record with the CDC before entering US waters. That means that the ships can't enter US ports until at least November 27, at which point they would be able to start crewing and provisioning for the test cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbboers Posted November 2, 2020 #20 Share Posted November 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, hallux said: @hbboers I was specifically commenting on your words "requirements that cannot be done". What in there do you believe can't be done? Let me reword what I should have said. "requirements that will be hard and costly to be done " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmersfight Posted November 2, 2020 #21 Share Posted November 2, 2020 4 hours ago, MsTabbyKats said: Mid to late spring...2021 What I've been predicting for months. Yeah, I was thinking April 2021 at the earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kismet618 Posted November 2, 2020 #22 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just received this for our April cruise: POM LETTER FROM NORWEGIAN.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare All-ready2cruise Posted November 2, 2020 #23 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Yes, I received the same letter as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bramcruiser Posted November 3, 2020 #24 Share Posted November 3, 2020 While most likely necessary given the current state of the virus and the border closures around the world it is disheartening. I am beginning to feel like we are being made offers to buy into future cruises in much the same way we make cats chase those red laser lights. Will always go after them but never catch them. Can't completely blame the cruise lines as they are damned if the do and damned if they don't. They are sailing through uncharted "waters" - excuse the pun - with no helpful guidance and they need to start up sometime or else face the risk of completely being bankrupt. But still the stubbornness of the virus - or is it just the people carrying it - seems to have dragged this to the point where a month here and a month there no longer works. I remain hopefully over my 2022 cruise that I broke down and booked this past summer. Having had no cruise vacation in two years is starting to get to me and now I have to wait another two years. Got unused flight vouchers for Europe that I want to use but can't given the current state of affairs. Hate to see us all throw money down the tubes. Sadly can't even go home to visit family at Christmas and with my father having cancer, I may not have the chance to see him alive again. 2020 will go down as a horrid year. I guess its good having the "do gooders" still try to keep us going with thoughts of being lucky to have a job, food on the table and a place to sleep every night and be thankful for no wars. I feel like this is all the twilight zone. If my 2022 cruise goes ahead I will enjoy it completely! Well, at least for the first day - 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prov2727 Posted November 30, 2020 #25 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Anyone else expecting January cancellations tomorrow or Wednesday? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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