NightOne Posted April 2, 2021 #1 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Go read https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/index.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted April 2, 2021 #2 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Nothing new 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightOne Posted April 2, 2021 Author #3 Share Posted April 2, 2021 We knew there were 4 phases, Now there are at least 5. "CDC may update these instructions for cruise ship operators for the additional phases (Phases 2B through 4) of resuming cruise ship passenger operations. These additional phases will be further described in future technical instructions and/or orders. CDC will notify cruise lines when these instructions are updated." CDC = Fail 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightOne Posted April 2, 2021 Author #4 Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: Nothing new Go look again. https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/management/technical-instructions-for-cruise-ships.html Edited April 2, 2021 by NightOne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted April 2, 2021 #5 Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) There's nothing new to suggest cruising is happening again any time soon. They merely added more complexity to the CSO https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/instructions-local-agreements.html Edited April 2, 2021 by smokeybandit 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted April 2, 2021 #6 Share Posted April 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, NightOne said: Go look again. https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/management/technical-instructions-for-cruise-ships.html Let me rephrase Nothing good thanks for the information 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightOne Posted April 2, 2021 Author #7 Share Posted April 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: Let me rephrase Nothing good thanks for the information So you read it ALL already. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted April 2, 2021 #8 Share Posted April 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, NightOne said: So you read it ALL already. Wow! No, just the paragraphs labeled “recent changes April 2 2021” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted April 2, 2021 #9 Share Posted April 2, 2021 20 minutes ago, NightOne said: So you read it ALL already. Wow! I did, yes. It expands on the previously vague section on shore side agreements with local health departments. Information that would have been good to know six months ago. It also has obsolete requirements for the current state of covid. It also adds some guidance on vaccines, but seems to have done so on a whim, as if they were rushed in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted April 2, 2021 #10 Share Posted April 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: I did, yes. It expands on the previously vague section on shore side agreements with local health departments. Information that would have been good to know six months ago. It also has obsolete requirements for the current state of covid. It also adds some guidance on vaccines, but seems to have done so on a whim, as if they were rushed in there. As if they were hurrying something to press because a certain “director” stuck her clueless foot in her mouth. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted April 2, 2021 #11 Share Posted April 2, 2021 So the answer to starting cruising as predicted isnt just no, but heck no. Doubling down on their power grab. Clueless and government we are here to help you, run. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soremekun Posted April 2, 2021 #12 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Sooooo, can we also now assume July is a no go too? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted April 2, 2021 #13 Share Posted April 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, soremekun said: Sooooo, can we also now assume July is a no go too? Seeing as the guidance that was issued today is required to be complete before test cruises can even begin, August may be a tough pull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted April 2, 2021 #14 Share Posted April 2, 2021 41 minutes ago, soremekun said: Sooooo, can we also now assume July is a no go too? Which year? 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolkmit Posted April 2, 2021 #15 Share Posted April 2, 2021 So... according to CDC, all travel can go back to normal if you are vaccinated; except for cruising. FFS. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Happy Posted April 2, 2021 #16 Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) If I am not mistaken, the technical area was updated late today (according to USAToday) it includes information concerning vaccination with 7 bullet points. I am not sure if anything else is new under that or if any of it was there before. It appears they want people vaccinated. https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/instructions-local-agreements.html Cruise Industry News is reporting on it too. https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24702-cdc-releases-technical-instructions-for-cruise-ships-to-sail-again.html Edited April 2, 2021 by Plum Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavArch64 Posted April 2, 2021 #17 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Very complex Technical Instructions. It will take a lot of work to meet these CDC requirements for the CSO. Each ship, each US port, each foreign port, almost each voyage will have to be described, explained and procedures agreed to by all parties, including the CDC, Port Authorities and USCG. The corporate staffs are going to be challenged to get this done. I don't think that a political process can replace the technical process. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted April 3, 2021 #18 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NavArch64 said: Very complex Technical Instructions. It will take a lot of work to meet these CDC requirements for the CSO. Each ship, each US port, each foreign port, almost each voyage will have to be described, explained and procedures agreed to by all parties, including the CDC, Port Authorities and USCG. The corporate staffs are going to be challenged to get this done. I don't think that a political process can replace the technical process. We shall see. Cruiselines will see that list and just take their business elsewhere.Just like they are starting to do............ You won't see cruising from a US port until 2022 at the earliest. Serious we all need to find other options for vacations besides cruising from a US Port. Edited April 3, 2021 by Jimbo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswallow Posted April 3, 2021 #19 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) There is nothing on that list that couldn't have been created within a week of the release of the previous Conditional Sailing Order in October, except the one line about recommending everyone being vaccinated. Edited April 3, 2021 by dswallow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandebeach Posted April 3, 2021 #20 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Saw this posted on another site. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules815 Posted April 3, 2021 #21 Share Posted April 3, 2021 2 hours ago, soremekun said: Sooooo, can we also now assume July is a no go too? I'd say so. I'm going with August or September 1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auntiemomo Posted April 3, 2021 #22 Share Posted April 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, jules815 said: I'd say so. I'm going with August or September 1. I'm just hoping for October. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted April 3, 2021 #23 Share Posted April 3, 2021 2 hours ago, soremekun said: Sooooo, can we also now assume July is a no go too? When Royal released the itinerary that leaves from Nassau I gave up hope for any sailings out of the US this summer. They just flipped the CDC the bird and found a loophole that could serve the U.S. passenger. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted April 3, 2021 #24 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Anybody want a Nov. 2020 do over? 😉 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolkmit Posted April 3, 2021 #25 Share Posted April 3, 2021 This was not good for anyone who likes cruising. The CDC is inserting requirements that openly have nothing to do with Covid-19 or the pandemic; such as ships having to have a plan in place for non-covid medical evacuations that utilize entirely commercial stuff, and don't put a burden on the coast guard. It's only a matter of time until they extend this nonsense from being conditional to being permanent. The CDC is taking advantage of the pandemic to attack the cruise lines. This is what happens when you have an entire industry that primarily benefits states on one side of the political isle. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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