2 PAX ON CELEBRITY MILLENIUM TEST POSITIVE FOR COVID

[mcrcruiser]

The first cruise from St Martin  into the Caribbean by Celebrity cruise ship test positive .

 

 All Cruise line Stocks are down today in the stock market 

 

 Here is the link:

 

 https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/celebrity-cruise-two-covid-positive-guests/index.html

 

 Now we wonder what is going to happen with the CDC /DeSantis    court battle now  in progress ?

[LMHSRN]

Really....Markets have not even opened yet.    INTERESTING

 

[Himself]

And both had taken the jab!  

[Bruinboy]

Sounds like Celebrity handled the situation well. If I read the article correctly, they were asymptotic and were tested at the end of the cruise. Also, everyone fully vaccinated on the cruise except for children. 

[mcrcruiser]

imo the implication will have a resounding impact on the current court battle between Gov DeSantis   & the CDC  . Time will tell all 

[mcrcruiser]

6 minutes ago, LMHSRN said:

Really....Markets have not even opened yet.    INTERESTING

 

Those are pre market prices that shown negative for the 3 major cruise line stocks  .Another huge issue is the very high cruise lines debt& adding millions more common shares like CCL did  .Thus ,in real terms  how does any one who have done their due diligence buy any future cruise line stock .This debt & added shares will be around the stocks neck for years to come JMHO

[Cruise Suzy]

Here is today's blog from someone on the ship

 

Live From Celebrity Millennium: A Third-Party Excursion and a Night in Quarantine | Cruise.Blog

 

 

[kazu]

5 minutes ago, Cruise Suzy said:

Here is today's blog from someone on the ship

 

Live From Celebrity Millennium: A Third-Party Excursion and a Night in Quarantine | Cruise.Blog

 

 

Thanks for the link.

 

The poster is very impressed with how it was all handled.

 

Listening to medical professionals this morning on this and they heaved a huge sigh of relief that everyone was vaccinated.  It prevented the spread and the 2 that had positive results were not sick at all.

 

All in all, a good reason for the ship to be vaccinated IMO.

[TriumphGuy]

2 minutes ago, kazu said:

Thanks for the link.

 

The poster is very impressed with how it was all handled.

 

Listening to medical professionals this morning on this and they heaved a huge sigh of relief that everyone was vaccinated.  It prevented the spread and the 2 that had positive results were not sick at all.

 

All in all, a good reason for the ship to be vaccinated IMO.

Absolutely correct, it's the ONLY way forward. My fear though, is the cruiselines' fear of losing revenue from the anti-vax crowd and caving to the almighty allure of the dollar. Greed trumps public health as we've all seen over the past year.

[Fred321]

Anyone think that there may have been some dissembling about their vaccine status?

[VMax1700]

A few random thoughts.......

this was a 7 night cruise.

it takes 10/14 days for the virus to develop.

They may have contracted the virus before travelling.

They may have contracted the virus at their place of work or at a restaurant or shopping while still at home.

They may have contracted the virus on a flight or at the airport.

the two pax are asymptomatic.

False positives are more than possible.

Media will of course blame the cruise lines as they are an easy target.

[syesmar]

Here’s the Threads over at the Celebrity Board discussing this: 

https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2783664-process-details-for-the-celebrity-millennium-sint-maarten-sailings/page/12/ (passenger on board live blogging)

+ https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2784744-two-test-positive-on-millenium/

 

I pasted this over at the “Will you go if everyone is not Vaccinated” Thread, but here’s an eyewitness account: https://thepointsguy.com/news/celebrity-millennium-cruise-ship-covid/

 

To answer initial questions: 

A second test confirmed the positive result for both

8 kids are on board, so the sailing is not “fully vaccinated” as media and RCG’s press release claimed (apparently they’re able to say this even if they’re following the “95% vaccinated” guidance, though this has led to erroneous headlines)

Shore Ex contacts were tested, all came back negative (according to GMA)

Initial reports are that the 2 passengers are Dutch nationals

 

From the eyewitness article, “I asked what will happen to the ill passengers when we reach St. Maarten in two days — we have a sea day tomorrow — and I was told that they will have to disembark, go straight to a hotel and stay there until they return negative test results.”

 

Best wishes to all passengers!

 

Edited June 11, 2021 by syesmar

[mightycruisequeen]

1 hour ago, Himself said:

And both had taken the jab!  

Sure, and test everyone else on that sailing again in 10 days, I'll bet they'll find at least two more positives.  "Science"🥴

[Laminator]

12 minutes ago, mightycruisequeen said:

Sure, and test everyone else on that sailing again in 10 days, I'll bet they'll find at least two more positives.  "Science"🥴

And if it was an unvaccinated sailing you would probably find another 100 more positives. 

[Boatdrill]

33 minutes ago, VMax1700 said:

A few random thoughts.......

this was a 7 night cruise.

it takes 10/14 days for the virus to develop.

They may have contracted the virus before travelling.

They may have contracted the virus at their place of work or at a restaurant or shopping while still at home.

They may have contracted the virus on a flight or at the airport.

the two pax are asymptomatic.

False positives are more than possible.

Media will of course blame the cruise lines as they are an easy target.

And all pax tested negative before boarding in St Maarten. 

Edited June 11, 2021 by Boatdrill

[mightycruisequeen]

4 minutes ago, Laminator said:

And if it was an unvaccinated sailing you would probably find another 100 more positives. 

If it had been an unvaccinated sailing, they would be blaming those two cases on lack of vaccination.

[Laminator]

1 minute ago, mightycruisequeen said:

If it had been an unvaccinated sailing, they would be blaming those two cases on lack of vaccination.

Very possible. They have said all along that it was possible for those vaccinated to still contract the virus. They have also said the symptoms would be much less serious. It appears they are correct in this instance. 

[Mosaic]

39 minutes ago, VMax1700 said:

A few random thoughts.......

this was a 7 night cruise.

it takes 10/14 days for the virus to develop.

They may have contracted the virus before travelling.

They may have contracted the virus at their place of work or at a restaurant or shopping while still at home.

They may have contracted the virus on a flight or at the airport.

the two pax are asymptomatic.

False positives are more than possible.

Media will of course blame the cruise lines as they are an easy target.

A few random thoughts.....

There is nothing new in the above.

2 people in the same cabin tested positive

That is not a false positive.

There is Covid (of course) on the ship.

We will see how it works out....

[Horizon chaser 1957]

The biggest take away is a glimpse of the future normal. Read the blog post.
Yes, two people tested positive.  Neither one got sick. None of their close contacts tested positive or got sick.

Celebrity had protocols and followed them. The two positives were confined to their cabin. They were retested to eliminate the possibility of a  false positive. Close contacts of the two were confined to their cabins until their negative test results came back, at which point they were free to go. The rest of the passengers carried on carrying on.
All in all, it was no big deal, and certainly not a Diamond Princess! 
This is likely to be a normal occurrence  moving forward in real life. Covid is not going away, we’re just learning how to safely assimilate it into our world.

Edited June 11, 2021 by Horizon chaser 1957

[cowmilker]

2 minutes ago, Horizon chaser 1957 said:

The biggest take away is a glimpse of the future normal. Read the blog post.
 

Yes, my heart sank when I read the headline.  But it's actually good news.  This was not spread all over the ship.  It was two people in the same cabin.  Regardless of when they were infected or where (it didn't happen on the ship obviously), they didn't spread it all over the place.  Furthermore, they were vaxxed and hence they aren't overtly sick.  So all is well.

Celebrity responded beautifully.

[atexsix]

Not surprised.

 

There's no way you can bring that many people together and not have cases of Covid or anything else for that matter.  It's inevitable and naïve to think otherwise.  To not want people vaccinated is completely nuts!  

 

Glad it happened now, the sooner we can put the "what ifs" behind us the better, the anti-ship crowd is just waiting to say I told ya so.  

Edited June 11, 2021 by atexsix

[ontheweb]

13 minutes ago, Horizon chaser 1957 said:

The biggest take away is a glimpse of the future normal. Read the blog post.
Yes, two people tested positive.  Neither one got sick. None of their close contacts tested positive or got sick.

Celebrity had protocols and followed them. The two positives were confined to their cabin. They were retested to eliminate the possibility of a  false positive. Close contacts of the two were confined to their cabins until their negative test results came back, at which point they were free to go. The rest of the passengers carried on carrying on.
All in all, it was no big deal, and certainly not a Diamond Princess! 
This is likely to be a normal occurrence  moving forward in real life. Covid is not going away, we’re just learning how to safely assimilate it into our world.

I agree that this will be a normal occurrence on a vaccinated ship, but one wonders what it would be like if there were a significant number of unvaccinated cruisers (other than a very few children) aboard.

[mcrcruiser]

1 hour ago, TriumphGuy said:

Absolutely correct, it's the ONLY way forward. My fear though, is the cruiselines' fear of losing revenue from the anti-vax crowd and caving to the almighty allure of the dollar. Greed trumps public health as we've all seen over the past year.

If the cruise lines allow people to board unvaccinated & a break out happens the CDC will shut them down & the lines will not be able to survive .Cruise ships are the worse petrie dishes JMHO 

[syesmar]

35 minutes ago, Horizon chaser 1957 said:

...Yes, two people tested positive.  Neither one got sick. None of their close contacts tested positive or got sick....

fwiw: The blogger who was on the Shore Excursion with the 2 passengers said the excursion had been 2 days before she got tested. I don’t know if they’ll be testing close contacts again, but it can take a number of days to test positive after exposure.

 

I pray everyone stays healthy. Best wishes to all!

[Laminator]

I think we need to wait a little while here to get more information. First and foremost they need to verify that those 2 pax were indeed vaccinated. Plus we need to wait 10 to 14 days to see if other pax/crew do become infected. We will have a much better picture at that time.