Bloodaxe Posted October 21, 2021 #101 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Many hotels are not even servicing rooms during your stay at the present time. Rooms are deep cleaned when vacant and they do not enter your room at all unless you specially request it. They ask you to request anything that you need and it is left outside your room or you can collected it from reception. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eglesbrech Posted October 21, 2021 #102 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Interestedcruisefan said: That isn't a reason to still use P and O? That is a reason to pay others to provide your cruise who do provide the traditional extras you want? You can't pay P and O extra for something they don't offer? And I do have to question how many others would be willing to pay higher prices to P and O for some of these things they no longer provide You must see there is a battle between low price and what you get for that price? Did you miss the “not reduced further” part of what I said? Anyway while I enjoy a good debate it is pointless if your only perspective is price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eglesbrech Posted October 21, 2021 #103 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Bloodaxe said: Many hotels are not even servicing rooms during your stay at the present time. Rooms are deep cleaned when vacant and they do not enter your room at all unless you specially request it. They ask you to request anything that you need and it is left outside your room or you can collected it from reception. Yes and as I said earlier I have no issue with that during covid, indeed it is sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted October 21, 2021 #104 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Interestedcruisefan said: Which other cruise lines offer similar value for money to P and O right now? And why arent we all using them? I'm open to cruising on any cruise line that offers me fantastic value cruising with same quality or similar quality (with or without turndown! Lol) I would prefer not to have someone come into my room just to pull the quilt back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiB Posted October 21, 2021 #105 Share Posted October 21, 2021 18 hours ago, terrierjohn said: Are you getting a nightly turn down service then Dai? Yes thankyou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted October 21, 2021 #106 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bloodaxe said: Many hotels are not even servicing rooms during your stay at the present time. Rooms are deep cleaned when vacant and they do not enter your room at all unless you specially request it. They ask you to request anything that you need and it is left outside your room or you can collected it from reception. Center Parcs is self catering with an option to pay extra for daily maid service Very few pay the extra when given the choice and the cost involved The way of the modern world of hospitality is to start at a low basic standard price and have the option to pay more Standard room Upgrade rooms Upgrade views Room only Bed and breakfast Half board Full board All inclusive Etc I agree with the idea that things like turndown could remain but be optional extras or only provided for a certain level of room It's a nice extra Give people the choice But accept that it adds cost Edited October 21, 2021 by Interestedcruisefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted October 21, 2021 #107 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eglesbrech said: Yes select fares are now less value with freedom dining etc. It will however be an issue in cabins which need beds made up for extra guests. I don’t think many will want to DIY the beds that come down from the ceiling etc. I don’t think anyone in the know will book a guarantee on Iona given some of the cabin issues which have been reported re privacy and overshadowing. Making rooms up for extra guests is very important We needed that in the past. Not now our kids have grown up That should be budgeted into the price for those bookings It's not the same as turndown for every room though Edited October 21, 2021 by Interestedcruisefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted October 21, 2021 #108 Share Posted October 21, 2021 If I had the choice of paying the price P&O used to charge and the quality of the cruise when I first started sailing with them in 2000 pre Carnival and what you pay now and get I am afraid I would prefer the first option. You get what you pay for and Carnival are constantly chipping away on a constant basis at P&Os product. All things stopped with the excuse of Covid is understandable but when life and cruising gets back to normal they will never return. When I first started cruising in the late 90s Cunard cruisers used to laugh at P&O and call them "ferries" equally P&O cruisers used to look down their noses at Thomson cruises, now Marella, but they are now on a par and in many ways not as good as Marella. I have friends who have done many cruises with P&O since mid 90s and now cruise with Marella every time because they say the food and entertainment and even though older ships the cruise experience is far better than P&O and they say they will never cruise with P&O again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted October 21, 2021 #109 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, majortom10 said: If I had the choice of paying the price P&O used to charge and the quality of the cruise when I first started sailing with them in 2000 pre Carnival and what you pay now and get I am afraid I would prefer the first option. You get what you pay for and Carnival are constantly chipping away on a constant basis at P&Os product. All things stopped with the excuse of Covid is understandable but when life and cruising gets back to normal they will never return. When I first started cruising in the late 90s Cunard cruisers used to laugh at P&O and call them "ferries" equally P&O cruisers used to look down their noses at Thomson cruises, now Marella, but they are now on a par and in many ways not as good as Marella. I have friends who have done many cruises with P&O since mid 90s and now cruise with Marella every time because they say the food and entertainment and even though older ships the cruise experience is far better than P&O and they say they will never cruise with P&O again. Funnily enough I just started a new thread asking what the prices for P and O used to be like 20 years ago What did you used to pay back in 2000 ish Major Tom? For a typical 14 night European cruise from Southampton? Can you remember? Edited October 21, 2021 by Interestedcruisefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted October 21, 2021 #110 Share Posted October 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Interestedcruisefan said: Funnily enough I just started a new thread asking what the prices for P and O used to be like 20 years ago What did you used to pay back in 2000 ish Major Tom? For a typical 14 night European cruise from Southampton? Can you remember? Our first ever cruise on QE2 in 1997 was for the cheapest lowest grade inside cabin on the ship and we paid nearly £900 for a 8nt cruise. I can remember paying on Arcadia for a 17nt cruise in 2007 for an inside cabin of £1769pp so was over £100pppn which 14yrs ago was a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted October 21, 2021 #111 Share Posted October 21, 2021 We were on Aurora when we received a letter to our cabin stating that an agreement had been made with Carnival for their partnership. It was virtually agreed that P&O would partner with RCCL and Carnival "trumped" them at the last minute because they wanted to get their hands on Princess. At the Captains Party on that cruise much to the disagreement and booing by some about the amalgamation with Carnival Captain Steve Burgoine said that if P&O didnt agree to this they could not afford to purchase new ships on their own to compete with Carnival and RCCL and stay independent and would have more than likely "gone to the wall". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted October 21, 2021 #112 Share Posted October 21, 2021 It's clear that experienced P and O passengers can rightfully be nostalgic about things they no longer get But might not want to be nostalgic about the prices they had to pay back then in comparison to the prices now It's two entirely different pricepoints then and now in reality 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted October 21, 2021 #113 Share Posted October 21, 2021 51 minutes ago, Interestedcruisefan said: It's clear that experienced P and O passengers can rightfully be nostalgic about things they no longer get But might not want to be nostalgic about the prices they had to pay back then in comparison to the prices now It's two entirely different pricepoints then and now in reality I agree but as the old saying goes "you get what you pay for". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiB Posted October 21, 2021 #114 Share Posted October 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, LynnForestgate said: Princess was always the cruise line that both RCCL and Carnival wanted. If I remember, was there not a referral to a US Agency and it was decided by them, that since RCCL owned both Royal Caribbean and Celebrity that the "Middle Market" would be monopolized by RCCL if they had taken control of Princess, , so it was allowed for Carnival to purchase Princess and the poor sister P&O. Please correct me if I am wrong on this. Princess were owned by P&O not the other way around. P&O bought them around the early 80's or before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted October 21, 2021 #115 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, daiB said: Princess were owned by P&O not the other way around. P&O bought them around the early 80's or before In fact P&O oversaw the growth of Princess from a fairly small operation to become a major player in the US cruise market, which was why both RCI & Carnival were so keen to buy it, and they had begun the start of AIDA, which Carnival have since grown to the major german cruise line Edited October 21, 2021 by terrierjohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted October 21, 2021 #116 Share Posted October 21, 2021 and I have heard several times that P&O is somewhat of a cash cow for Carnival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted October 21, 2021 #117 Share Posted October 21, 2021 3 hours ago, majortom10 said: Our first ever cruise on QE2 in 1997 was for the cheapest lowest grade inside cabin on the ship and we paid nearly £900 for a 8nt cruise. I can remember paying on Arcadia for a 17nt cruise in 2007 for an inside cabin of £1769pp so was over £100pppn which 14yrs ago was a lot of money. That would be £2510 as of 2020 according to the Bank of England calculator. Or 41.8% inflation since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electra 7 Posted October 21, 2021 #118 Share Posted October 21, 2021 9 hours ago, majortom10 said: If I had the choice of paying the price P&O used to charge and the quality of the cruise when I first started sailing with them in 2000 pre Carnival and what you pay now and get I am afraid I would prefer the first option. You get what you pay for and Carnival are constantly chipping away on a constant basis at P&Os product. All things stopped with the excuse of Covid is understandable but when life and cruising gets back to normal they will never return. When I first started cruising in the late 90s Cunard cruisers used to laugh at P&O and call them "ferries" equally P&O cruisers used to look down their noses at Thomson cruises, now Marella, but they are now on a par and in many ways not as good as Marella. I have friends who have done many cruises with P&O since mid 90s and now cruise with Marella every time because they say the food and entertainment and even though older ships the cruise experience is far better than P&O and they say they will never cruise with P&O again. I agree I prefer to pay the 90's price{ with inflation of course} without all the cut backs however we do not get the chance that is why I am trying Cunard for next cruise we even won a free bottle of bubbly on each of our first cruises which was fun taking part I remember being onboard the original Adonia and the comedian calling the Aurora the Horora by the time I got on the Aurora there was no way you could call it the Horora anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electra 7 Posted October 21, 2021 #119 Share Posted October 21, 2021 9 hours ago, Interestedcruisefan said: Funnily enough I just started a new thread asking what the prices for P and O used to be like 20 years ago What did you used to pay back in 2000 ish Major Tom? For a typical 14 night European cruise from Southampton? Can you remember? Cannot remember 20 years ago but 30 years ago went on Canberra for 17 nights had ball sharing a cabin called the friendly four {shared with 3 other ladies one was like gran and the other two were like aunties } it was great £700 and something pounds no en suite had bath in corridor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel57 Posted October 22, 2021 #120 Share Posted October 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Electra 7 said: I agree I prefer to pay the 90's price{ with inflation of course} without all the cut backs however we do not get the chance that is why I am trying Cunard for next cruise we even won a free bottle of bubbly on each of our first cruises which was fun taking part I remember being onboard the original Adonia and the comedian calling the Aurora the Horora by the time I got on the Aurora there was no way you could call it the Horora anymore There was a very funny comedian on Aurora in the 00s called Nicky Martin (I think) who always referred to the her as the Horora and used to recite a very funny poem at the end of the cruise life on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted October 22, 2021 #121 Share Posted October 22, 2021 On 10/21/2021 at 12:16 PM, majortom10 said: 100pppn which 14yrs ago was a lot of money. £142 today. Doubt many people today would pay that for an inside cabin, turndown service or not ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted October 22, 2021 #122 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, wowzz said: £142 today. Doubt many people today would pay that for an inside cabin, turndown service or not ! But it wasnt just turndown Wowz! Don't forget the chocolate on the pillow, nicer toiletries and a cup of hot chocolate each night Plus you have to give some value to the tradition of giving the cabin steward a nice tip at the end as a thank you for the chocolates etc so he could actually earn some money for all his hard work Sadly no longer a tradition Didn't they use to make towel animals as well in the old days or is that RC? Edited October 22, 2021 by Interestedcruisefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted October 22, 2021 #123 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) On 10/21/2021 at 9:21 PM, Electra 7 said: Cannot remember 20 years ago but 30 years ago went on Canberra for 17 nights had ball sharing a cabin called the friendly four {shared with 3 other ladies one was like gran and the other two were like aunties } it was great £700 and something pounds no en suite had bath in corridor My Grandad had a bath in front of the fire. I don't think he would have liked his bath in a ships corridor. Too many folk walking past and tripping over it. Edited October 22, 2021 by zap99 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Peterson Posted October 23, 2021 #124 Share Posted October 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Interestedcruisefan said: Didn't they use to make towel animals as well in the old days or is that RC? They did. I'd forgotten that one! My wife loved that. That was in the days when the hard-worked room staff still had the time to do it, and before their numbers were cut back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted October 23, 2021 #125 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said: They did. I'd forgotten that one! My wife loved that. That was in the days when the hard-worked room staff still had the time to do it, and before their numbers were cut back. It helped earn those extra tips when they were just being paid 75p per hour for sure At least one boat I've travelled on used to have a morning when every sunbed round the main pool had towel animals put on them by the staff Edited October 23, 2021 by Interestedcruisefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now