Adawn47 Posted March 27, 2023 #226 Share Posted March 27, 2023 I have one long dress that I love, so take that and then evening trousers with dressy/sparkly tops. My husband takes his dinner suit, dress shirts and a couple of bow ties. You don't have to be uncomfortable to be dressy. Avril 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennizor Posted March 27, 2023 #227 Share Posted March 27, 2023 This is my favourite formal outfit, it is a split skirt with trousers in the same material underneath. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denarius Posted March 28, 2023 #228 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/26/2023 at 10:54 PM, wowzz said: Don't ask me - I don't write the rules! I suspect it is because Caribbean cruises are dominated by US lines which operate a more relaxed dress code. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vampiress88 Posted April 1, 2023 #229 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Just remind me where won’t let you in if you aren’t in a suit please? the parents in law have hijacked our holiday and the father in law will not where a suit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted April 1, 2023 #230 Share Posted April 1, 2023 On Celebration Night, once per week the four main dining rooms, Epicurian, Sindhu and the Chefs Table restaurants, The Crows Nest bar and possibly Sindhu and Andersons bars although Andersons is not listed on the P&O site. Everywhere else is evening casual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted April 1, 2023 #231 Share Posted April 1, 2023 50 minutes ago, Vampiress88 said: Just remind me where won’t let you in if you aren’t in a suit please? the parents in law have hijacked our holiday and the father in law will not where a suit Why not send them to the buffet with the girls, while you two enjoy a romantic date night in the MDR or a speciality restaurants. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vampiress88 Posted April 1, 2023 #232 Share Posted April 1, 2023 24 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: Why not send them to the buffet with the girls, while you two enjoy a romantic date night in the MDR or a speciality restaurants. I’ve said that to them if they don’t want to dress up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camberley Posted April 1, 2023 #233 Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) On a previous cruise one of our friends refused to wear any of shirt, tie, jacket on formal night: and made a big point before the cruise of “it’s my holiday so I will wear what I want”. So that night on board he went to Brodies and the buffet by himself while we, all dressed up, went to the Crows Nest and Epicurean. Edited April 1, 2023 by Camberley 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vampiress88 Posted April 1, 2023 #234 Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) Will do that yes. Edited April 1, 2023 by Vampiress88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonOne Posted April 4, 2023 #235 Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 4/1/2023 at 5:17 PM, Camberley said: On a previous cruise one of our friends refused to wear any of shirt, tie, jacket on formal night: and made a big point before the cruise of “it’s my holiday so I will wear what I want”. So that night on board he went to Brodies and the buffet by himself while we, all dressed up, went to the Crows Nest and Epicurean. I must admit I find this attitude a bit strange, though far from rare. There are plenty of alternative lines where you do not have to dress up at all. Why pick one of the relatively few that promote dressing up and then refuse to do it, rather than go for a line where you are comfortable? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camberley Posted April 4, 2023 #236 Share Posted April 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, WestonOne said: I must admit I find this attitude a bit strange, though far from rare. There are plenty of alternative lines where you do not have to dress up at all. Why pick one of the relatively few that promote dressing up and then refuse to do it, rather than go for a line where you are comfortable? I think some people are just bloody-minded, stubborn and like to be contrary for the sake of it. Granted, most end up in politics but a few cruise 🤣 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydee6969 Posted April 4, 2023 #237 Share Posted April 4, 2023 I don't understand why it bothers some people so much. I do black tie on some cruises, and don't bother on others. I am more than happy to not go to the MDR/Crows Nest etc, and use the rest of the ship. In fact on Azura last week we used both the Beach House and Sindhu for black tie nights. Even thought Sindhu has a black tie notice outside on Azura, it does not apply to the dining area. I still can not find in the P&O T's and C's where it states that it is a condition of booking that you adhere to formal dress code on said evenings. My understanding since our first cruise was that it was an option, which many enjoy and indeed look forward too. We too enjoy them, but only when it suits us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaefell Posted April 4, 2023 #238 Share Posted April 4, 2023 When we book a cruise the important points are the date of departure & where it is going,which cruise line it is & what the dress code is tend to be less of a consideration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted April 4, 2023 #239 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, jaydee6969 said: I don't understand why it bothers some people so much. I do black tie on some cruises, and don't bother on others. I am more than happy to not go to the MDR/Crows Nest etc, and use the rest of the ship. In fact on Azura last week we used both the Beach House and Sindhu for black tie nights. Even thought Sindhu has a black tie notice outside on Azura, it does not apply to the dining area. I still can not find in the P&O T's and C's where it states that it is a condition of booking that you adhere to formal dress code on said evenings. My understanding since our first cruise was that it was an option, which many enjoy and indeed look forward too. We too enjoy them, but only when it suits us. It is an option but only in the areas of the ship that are not designated formal wear only, this can vary between ships, which might be one reason for it not be in the T&Cs. However in brochures of old there were pages of what to expect on your cruise, and wearing formal dress in some venues would have been highlighted in here. However it does now say that essential information is now on line, and dress code is one of the items. Edited April 4, 2023 by terrierjohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydee6969 Posted April 4, 2023 #240 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: It is an option but only in the areas of the ship that are designated formal wear only, this can vary between ships, which might be one reason for it not be in the T&Cs. However in brochures of old there were pages of what to expect on your cruise, and wearing formal dress in some venues would have been highlighted in here. However it does now say that essential information is now on line, and dress code is one of the items. I may not have got my point across too well. It still is highlighted that formal nights require you to wear suitable attire for parts of the ship. This is not in question, or an issue. The comments that you should not cruise on P&O if you do not want to adhere to formal nights and find a non formal cruise line are objectionable. The actual notes in Horizon do state that smart casual is the minimum dress code on black tie nights not formal attire. Now that is another can of worms. Edited April 4, 2023 by jaydee6969 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted April 4, 2023 #241 Share Posted April 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, jaydee6969 said: I may not have got my point across too well. It still is highlighted that formal nights require you to wear suitable attire for parts of the ship. This is not in question, or an issue. The comments that you should not cruise on P&O if you do not want to adhere to formal nights and find a non formal cruise line are objectionable. The actual notes in Horizon do state that smart casual is the minimum dress code on black tie nights not formal attire. Now that is another can of worms. Nowadays thing are either black or white, no shades of grey. The dress code is an example of this. P&O ships are large enough to cater for both points of view and do so. Wear black tie or evening casual your choice. So P&O ships do cater for those shades of grey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britboys Posted April 4, 2023 #242 Share Posted April 4, 2023 3 hours ago, jaydee6969 said: I don't understand why it bothers some people so much. I do black tie on some cruises, and don't bother on others. I am more than happy to not go to the MDR/Crows Nest etc, and use the rest of the ship. In fact on Azura last week we used both the Beach House and Sindhu for black tie nights. Even thought Sindhu has a black tie notice outside on Azura, it does not apply to the dining area. I still can not find in the P&O T's and C's where it states that it is a condition of booking that you adhere to formal dress code on said evenings. My understanding since our first cruise was that it was an option, which many enjoy and indeed look forward too. We too enjoy them, but only when it suits us. It is probably an attitude which is more prevalent among us longer-term cruisers who in the past have been used to formal wear being a requirement ship-wide on certain nights. The more formal dress is something I have always enjoyed and for me the sight of everyone dressed in their finery makes for a lovely atmosphere. If I'm in the theatre dressed in Black Tie and someone next to me is in jeans and casual shirt, it does take the shine off the evening. Does it ruin my night? No of course not. Does it make me think I am a 'better' person? Absolutely not. I accept P&O's dress code but do somewhat rue the passing of the stricter dress codes of 'tymes gone bye' 😉. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel57 Posted April 4, 2023 #243 Share Posted April 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Britboys said: It is probably an attitude which is more prevalent among us longer-term cruisers who in the past have been used to formal wear being a requirement ship-wide on certain nights. The more formal dress is something I have always enjoyed and for me the sight of everyone dressed in their finery makes for a lovely atmosphere. If I'm in the theatre dressed in Black Tie and someone next to me is in jeans and casual shirt, it does take the shine off the evening. Does it ruin my night? No of course not. Does it make me think I am a 'better' person? Absolutely not. I accept P&O's dress code but do somewhat rue the passing of the stricter dress codes of 'tymes gone bye' 😉. Perfectly put and I feel the same. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted April 4, 2023 #244 Share Posted April 4, 2023 5 hours ago, snaefell said: When we book a cruise the important points are the date of departure & where it is going,which cruise line it is & what the dress code is tend to be less of a consideration. Sometimes we dress up, sometimes we don't. If we don't, we accept that the MDR, Crows Nest and a couple of others are off limits. We will go to the beach house instead. We select the cruise mainly on itinerary date and price. Not always P&O. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonOne Posted April 4, 2023 #245 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, jaydee6969 said: The comments that you should not cruise on P&O if you do not want to adhere to formal nights and find a non formal cruise line are objectionable. For clarity, that is not what I said, or at least not what I meant. My point was that lots of other lines have no formal nights and it makes sense to look at those if dressing up is something you really object to. Yes, you can decide to eat elsewhere than the MDR, for example, but why build such a limitation into your holiday if you don''t need to? So I am not saying "you should not travel P+O," but "have you considered other lines you may like better?" I would say, though, that as a matter of consideration for those around you, demanding entry into the MDR on a formal night in casual dress because "I paid for my holiday so I can do what I like" is something I find pretty antisocial. Everyone else paid for their holiday as well. To dress casually on a formal night and be happy to stay where that is accepted is completely reasonable and socially aware. Edited April 4, 2023 by WestonOne 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted April 4, 2023 #246 Share Posted April 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, WestonOne said: For clarity, that is not what I said, or at least not what I meant. My point was that lots of other lines have no formal nights and it makes sense to look at those if dressing up is something you really object to. Yes, you can decide to eat elsewhere than the MDR, for example, but why build such a limitation into your holiday if you don''t need to? So I am not saying "you should not travel P+O," but "have you considered other lines you may like I don't object to formal nights, but often can't be bothered. On a cruise we will only eat in the MDR about half the time, so can easily plan to eat somewhere else on formal nights. If folk object to me walking through the ships common areas dressed smart casual that is their problem, not mine. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermotsgirl Posted April 5, 2023 #247 Share Posted April 5, 2023 At this point, I’m bored with the concept of formal nights, or gala or celebration nights, whatever they might be calling them these days. This feeling accelerated after doing some longer cruises. Each time a formal evening rolled around, my general thoughts were, ‘ not another one, what’s the point’. However, I accept that the formal nights are a feature of most cruiselines that I’m likely to sail with. This dress code is a tiny part of the cruise experience, so I’m willing to wear a pair of evening trousers and a sparkling top for those evenings. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted April 5, 2023 #248 Share Posted April 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Dermotsgirl said: At this point, I’m bored with the concept of formal nights, or gala or celebration nights, whatever they might be calling them these days. This feeling accelerated after doing some longer cruises. Each time a formal evening rolled around, my general thoughts were, ‘ not another one, what’s the point’. However, I accept that the formal nights are a feature of most cruiselines that I’m likely to sail with. This dress code is a tiny part of the cruise experience, so I’m willing to wear a pair of evening trousers and a sparkling top for those evenings. I think you ladies could get away with most things you wear on smart casual nights for formal wear, but for men an additional jacket and tie is the minimum requirement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermotsgirl Posted April 5, 2023 #249 Share Posted April 5, 2023 2 hours ago, terrierjohn said: I think you ladies could get away with most things you wear on smart casual nights for formal wear, but for men an additional jacket and tie is the minimum requirement. I’m not ‘getting away with anything’ though. What I described is my formal wear, I don’t wear those things on a smart casual night 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Peterson Posted April 5, 2023 #250 Share Posted April 5, 2023 39 minutes ago, Dermotsgirl said: I’m not ‘getting away with anything’ though. What I described is my formal wear, I don’t wear those things on a smart casual night Absolutely! My wife complies absolutely with the rules, as do I, but she wears Doc Martens under a long dress because they're much more comfortable than traditional shoes. Nobody sees them, but she does enjoy the occasional 'protest'! 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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