Ocean Boy Posted March 8 #276 Share Posted March 8 48 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: If you think there is anything at all in Labadee that these gangs want you are dreaming. You forgot about the previously mentioned jet skis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted March 8 #277 Share Posted March 8 59 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: You forgot about the previously mentioned jet skis. I did fail to take into account the jet skis. mea culpa 🤪🤪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted March 8 #278 Share Posted March 8 5 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: You forgot about the previously mentioned jet skis. I thought they are using them to get to the Florida coast, since they couldn’t fly from the airport.😉😀🤨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted March 8 #279 Share Posted March 8 9 minutes ago, A&L_Ont said: I thought they are using them to get to the Florida coast, since they couldn’t fly from the airport.😉😀🤨 Hopefully, they are smart enough to refuel in Cuba or they might all get picked up by Oasis as she cruises around and end up back at Labadee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted March 8 #280 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, A&L_Ont said: I thought they are using them to get to the Florida coast, since they couldn’t fly from the airport.😉😀🤨 Only if they can get passports 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwguy Posted March 8 #281 Share Posted March 8 (edited) Just one event is all it takes. 3 dozen angry Haitian guys with machetes and nothing to lose - no thanks. I can't believe the cruise ship companies (or their insurers) are even allowing this to persist. Edited March 8 by dfwguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted March 8 #282 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 17 minutes ago, dfwguy said: Just one event is all it takes. 3 dozen angry Haitian guys with machetes and nothing to lose - no thanks. I can't believe the cruise ship companies (or their insurers) are even allowing this to persist. So many hysterical posters who have real anger that a cruise line continues to call at Labadee like they have done for about 30 years. Before Cruise Critic existed there were these same type discussions on Usenet with horrified people who could not believe a cruise line called at Labadee, Haiti. Lots of imagination in them. Edited March 8 by Charles4515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted March 8 #283 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, dfwguy said: Just one event is all it takes. 3 dozen angry Haitian guys with machetes and nothing to lose - no thanks. I can't believe the cruise ship companies (or their insurers) are even allowing this to persist. No one seems to appreciate the fact that this type of behavior does not serve the purpose not have any profitable motive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Posted March 8 #284 Share Posted March 8 This thread made it to CNN. And let's see, "a former journalist who lives in Hinche in Central Haiti, says there are no political tensions there like those in Port-au-Prince, and “Labadee, in the North, is also 100% out of danger.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix_dream Posted March 8 #285 Share Posted March 8 15 minutes ago, Anton said: This thread made it to CNN. And let's see, "a former journalist who lives in Hinche in Central Haiti, says there are no political tensions there like those in Port-au-Prince, and “Labadee, in the North, is also 100% out of danger.” And of course criminals never travel and only are violent in certain areas. Like we never thought the gangs would move out of Chicago for their smash and grabs in suburbs 30 miles away. And yet they are! The US says it's citizens should leave Haiti immediately. They didn't say except for Labadee. Enough said 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted March 9 #286 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, phoenix_dream said: And of course criminals never travel and only are violent in certain areas. Like we never thought the gangs would move out of Chicago for their smash and grabs in suburbs 30 miles away. And yet they are! The US says it's citizens should leave Haiti immediately. They didn't say except for Labadee. Enough said The sky is falling!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taglovestocruise Posted March 9 #287 Share Posted March 9 2 hours ago, dfwguy said: Just one event is all it takes. 3 dozen angry Haitian guys with machetes and nothing to lose - no thanks. I can't believe the cruise ship companies (or their insurers) are even allowing this to persist. Jimani, Dominican Republic is 30 miles from Port Au Prince. Last report is they are not seeing any sign of trouble and have taken very little extra precautions. I would have little to no worry about visiting Labadee. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare prmssk Posted March 9 #288 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, taglovestocruise said: Jimani, Dominican Republic is 30 miles from Port Au Prince. Last report is they are not seeing any sign of trouble and have taken very little extra precautions. I would have little to no worry about visiting Labadee. There was an incident on Tuesday at the Dominican Republic border and reports I have read indicated that the Dominican Republic was taking additional steps to further secure their border. I'm not saying Labadee is in immediate danger but I don't agree that the Dominican Republic has taken "very little extra precautions". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted March 9 #289 Share Posted March 9 DR is worry about thousands of Haitian refugees rushing over the border more than Haitian gangsters. DR has rushed troops and armored vehicles to the border and will seal it shut as soon as there is sign of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolloman Posted March 9 #290 Share Posted March 9 8 hours ago, not-enough-cruising said: So you are going to take hostage, citizens of the country most likely financing your coup? This helps your cause in what way?? Alarmist to the max Nothing to see here, keep moving. That is your view right? Keep your head in the sand? I guess when the locals had their little tantrum and surrounded a ship a couple years ago it was an anomaly? Or maybe, just maybe...it sets the stage for something more nefarious happening at a later date? Personally, I think it is better to be cautious. my motto is never place yourself in a position with a high rate of failure. At this current time, there are several other cruise ports to visit other than Labadee. Now, if you want to keep pushing your narrative of nothing to see here...I think maybe you may have an alternative motive...like you are travel agent lol...whatever your deal is, with your current view, you certainly don't have my best interest in mind. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted March 9 #291 Share Posted March 9 While I think it is best to currently avoid ladabee I do fell bad for all the locals working there . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karma5 Posted March 9 #292 Share Posted March 9 I feel that RC should stay away from Labadee until things calm down a bit................ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted March 9 #293 Share Posted March 9 (edited) I think Labadee has a better chance of being taken over by Haitian refugees than the BBQ gangs. When starving people run out of bare necessities to sustain lives, they will start walking towards areas that offer them a better chance of survival. It happens in every conflict zone around the world and Labadee will not be immune from this. Edited March 9 by sfaaa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tree_skier Posted March 9 #294 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 28 minutes ago, sfaaa said: I think Labadee has a better chance of being taken over by Haitian refugees than the BBQ gangs. When starving people run out of bare necessities to sustain lives, they will start walking towards areas that offer them a better chance of survival. It happens in every conflict zone around the world and Labadee will not be immune from this. They'll head to the DR before they trek to Labadee. It's a 1:20 minute drive to Jamani, DR... There is a whole lot more to loot there than whatever a days supplies might be at Labadee Edited March 9 by Tree_skier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted March 9 #295 Share Posted March 9 May be. But the looters will have to go through these bad azz looking dudes first and these aren't the outgunned Haitian police or Labadee mall cop A-Team. https://www.haitilibre.com/en/news-41806-haiti-security-the-dominican-republic-strengthens-border-surveillance.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin can Posted March 9 #296 Share Posted March 9 16 hours ago, Charles4515 said: I feel bad that you can't get travel insurance if a ship visits Haiti or Hatian waters (Haitian waters is a lot of miles) but there is no requirement to have insurance or that UK citizens go to Haiti. I am sure the Royal Caribbean group will stop going to Labadee if they determine it is unsafe. I don't think they will stop because citizens of a small European country can't get insurance. This is a bit tongue in cheek, but UK insurers are taking a risk when we depart our 'small European Country' to Haiti so the odds are against them for us meeting a grizzly end. The murder rate in some US states though is significantly higher than Haiti, even allowing for under reporting US insurers have better odds for some of you walking around in Port au Prince than being at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted March 9 #297 Share Posted March 9 8 hours ago, rolloman said: Nothing to see here, keep moving. That is your view right? Keep your head in the sand? I guess when the locals had their little tantrum and surrounded a ship a couple years ago it was an anomaly? Or maybe, just maybe...it sets the stage for something more nefarious happening at a later date? Personally, I think it is better to be cautious. my motto is never place yourself in a position with a high rate of failure. At this current time, there are several other cruise ports to visit other than Labadee. Now, if you want to keep pushing your narrative of nothing to see here...I think maybe you may have an alternative motive...like you are travel agent lol...whatever your deal is, with your current view, you certainly don't have my best interest in mind. They didn’t surround a ship; good lord. A couple dozen fishing boats moored in the channel so a ship could not approach; this was a PEACEFUL protest against the Haitian government and fuel prices. Royal did not dock that one day I agree not to position yourself in a position with a high rate of failure. Currently the failure rate at Labadee is 0% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted March 9 #298 Share Posted March 9 (edited) Independence had docked; let’s all have a moment of silence and reflection for the safety of the passengers………..especially those with UK based travel insurance <sarcasm> Edited March 9 by not-enough-cruising 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AandBmom Posted March 9 #299 Share Posted March 9 Regarding the whole UK travel insurance thing, this advisory has been in effect since 2019 and people from the UK have been deciding to go there or not since then. The recent situation in Haiti doesn't all sudden make this an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted March 9 #300 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, AandBmom said: Regarding the whole UK travel insurance thing, this advisory has been in effect since 2019 and people from the UK have been deciding to go there or not since then. The recent situation in Haiti doesn't all sudden make this an issue. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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