smoking at coco cay

[island lady]

Oh boy...another smoking thread.   

 

OK...what's next...chair hogs?  😄 😄 

[berwyn]

1 hour ago, twangster said:

The wayfinding map has the smoking areas on it:

 

https://www.royalcaribbean.com/content/dam/royal/resources/pdf/perfect-day-at-cococay-wayfinding-maps.pdf

 

Thak you for the map. I am the OP .Can we please stop this now?

[Charles4515]

17 minutes ago, toxicfairy said:

I've actually had a very bad asthma attack in church froma woman who was wearing very strong perfume in front of me. I excused myself and left to go inhale my medicine. I had to be driven home. Yup not just cigarettes 

 

But what does that have to do with smoking areas? You might want to ask the paster to talk to the woman about the strong perfume.

 

I had a coworker who used strong perfume to hide the oder from her smoking habit.  You can smell the cigarette odor on smokers. 

[Charles4515]

14 hours ago, sdear said:

So does the perfume and aftershave that people bathe themselves in daily.   Those fumes are just as detrimental to people with lung conditions as smoking is!   

 

What does that have to do with smoking areas? Certainly you don't think people should be allowed to smoke everywhere because perfume is allowed? 

[Engineroom Snipe]

11 minutes ago, berwyn said:

Thak you for the map. I am the OP .Can we please stop this now?

@berwyn

 

Unfortunately, some of these topics tend to take off into different discussions. Some of them get interesting and some of them just rehash old discussions.

 

Not your fault and not much you can do about it.

 

It happens on certain subjects.

[leaveitallbehind]

8 minutes ago, Charles4515 said:

What does that have to do with smoking areas? Certainly you don't think people should be allowed to smoke everywhere because perfume is allowed? 

....or maybe have designated perfume areas - LOL.  I understand that strong perfumes can be equally annoying as cigarette smoke, but as you have aptly pointed out the two are by no means related.  I get it with allergies, etc., but perfumes are not a documented health risk with well understood regulated guidelines regarding its use.

 

That all being said as well pointed out there are designated smoking areas for those who wish to smoke.

Edited March 20 by leaveitallbehind

[DennysDad]

55 minutes ago, toxicfairy said:

I've actually had a very bad asthma attack in church froma woman who was wearing very strong perfume in front of me. I excused myself and left to go inhale my medicine. I had to be driven home. Yup not just cigarettes 

 

Did you get lung cancer, stuff terrible, and die from it? Please.... LOL.

[doghog]

14 hours ago, sdear said:

So does the perfume and aftershave that people bathe themselves in daily.   Those fumes are just as detrimental to people with lung conditions as smoking is!   

 

Also those smokers that are bathing in perfume and cologne are only kidding themselves. Speaking from past experience,I use to think that would cover up the stench when I use to smoke. 

[allie3490]

1 hour ago, toxicfairy said:

I've actually had a very bad asthma attack in church froma woman who was wearing very strong perfume in front of me. I excused myself and left to go inhale my medicine. I had to be driven home. Yup not just cigarettes 

 

Wow talk about grasping at straws 🤦🏻‍♀️

[jean87510]

15 hours ago, DennysDad said:

Not a chance. Where is the surgeon general's warning on a bottle of perfume. 

They are both annoying.  One definitely more hazardous then the other.  

[island lady]

1 hour ago, doghog said:

Also those smokers that are bathing in perfume and cologne are only kidding themselves. Speaking from past experience,I use to think that would cover up the stench when I use to smoke. 

 

Nah Dave...just walk around with your pet skunk in your arms.  😄 

[DennysDad]

5 minutes ago, jean87510 said:

They are both annoying.  One definitely more hazardous then the other.  

Annoying and Hazardous are two very different things.

[jean87510]

7 minutes ago, DennysDad said:

Annoying and Hazardous are two very different things.

Yes.  Read what I posted.  Both are annoying.  One definitely more hazardous then the other.

[A&L_Ont]

1 minute ago, jean87510 said:

Yes.  Read what I posted.  Both are annoying.  One definitely more hazardous than  the other.

I read your comment exactly like you intended. 

[jean87510]

2 minutes ago, A&L_Ont said:

I read your comment exactly like you intended. 

I don't like either as they both affect me.  Perfume more so as people usually smoke outside and I don't really notice it as much as it seems as if more people vape nowadays.

[A&L_Ont]

1 minute ago, jean87510 said:

I don't like either as they both affect me.  Perfume more so as people usually smoke outside and I don't really notice it as much as it seems as if more people vape nowadays.

I agree with you, it affects everyone differently.  
 

I can cut through the smoking area and handle a person with too much perfume nearby but my dad had issues with both being close to him. I don’t mind the vapers either, but do not like when they haul off a puff in the areas where they are not allowed too.  On our second to last cruise one person was vaping in Studio B during the quest. Their team lost 10 points, as they should. 

[DennysDad]

1 hour ago, jean87510 said:

Yes.  Read what I posted.  Both are annoying.  One definitely more hazardous then the other.

I read it. I think bringing the two up in the same sentence is ridiculous. I'm done. Moving on.

[Tatka]

17 hours ago, Pochi Hanaki said:

If they were stuck in there with their own smoke they might just decide to give it up. If they are on an island far away from non smokers I don't have an issue. It is just when it interferes with my enjoyment I have issues. I was hoping when vapes came out people would use those instead of cigarette. At least with those it dissipates a lot faster, but even those I don't want to be next to someone doing it.

 

I agree about areas being away from public, but disagree about bolded text.

It is completely different processes and I do not think other people should make a decision for people.

[cruise1957]

18 hours ago, Pochi Hanaki said:

I can't smell aftershave or perfume 10 feet from someone, I can smell smoke like 30 to 40 feet away and on ships if you are below the smoking section it goes right into your balcony. They should make it all smoke free. 

We sailed years ago on Carnival Paradise at that time the entire ship was non smoking, but it didn't last just a few years later they went back to allowing smoking in designated areas.

[Pochi Hanaki]

11 minutes ago, Tatka said:

 

I agree about areas being away from public, but disagree about bolded text.

It is completely different processes and I do not think other people should make a decision for people.

It’s just like some airports. There’s an enclosed room for all the smokers. Heck they don’t even have to but cigarettes they can just enhale all that second hand smoke 

[Tatka]

Just now, Pochi Hanaki said:

It’s just like some airports. There’s an enclosed room for all the smokers. Heck they don’t even have to but cigarettes they can just enhale all that second hand smoke 

 

I appreciate your sense of humor, but again, airport is for several hours. Still it is a torture.

Not sure why if it does not affect you (read away from the public) "public" should dictate how it is should be done.

[Pochi Hanaki]

31 minutes ago, Tatka said:

 

I appreciate your sense of humor, but again, airport is for several hours. Still it is a torture.

Not sure why if it does not affect you (read away from the public) "public" should dictate how it is should be done.

Read the forum on smoking. There are people that have complained that the smoke from the smoking area goes into the balconies below. Casino are not closed in so that smoke goes around too. Away from public isn't really away. I am glad you agree that second hand smoke is torture. 

[leaveitallbehind]

4 hours ago, jean87510 said:

They are both annoying.  One definitely more hazardous then the other.  

Which is why one is as heavily regulated as it is.

[Tree_skier]

I was a smoker years ago.  Now I hate it.  I'll tolerate it in the casino and would never make any comments but if someone thinks they're going to do it on their balcony near mine I will be making a phone call.

[iuki]

On 3/20/2024 at 2:00 AM, sdear said:

I didnt say they caused it...i said it affects them in an adverse way.   sheesh..chill out folks

I understand what you’re saying.  People allergic to strong perfume don’t suffer lung damage, but they can experience a reaction to the perfume, such as difficulty breathing, or, in my case, Elizabeth Taylor’s Passion perfume caused me to have a migraine and I had to go to the doctor’s office for a shot.  Fragrant flowers and candles make it difficult for me to breathe.  I just walk away from these situations.  Fortunately, I no longer suffer with migraines.