swjumbo Posted July 25 #1 Share Posted July 25 On my Celebrity journey I, one day, would hope to be Zenith. When I fly with an airline or stay with a major hotel group they expect me to maintain my status by using them a few times per year. As a regular customer, who has a few cruises booked and paid for, (and Elite) I’d like know that the upper echelons of the CC fraternity are also contributing towards the company and not resting on their laurels. X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisestitch Posted July 25 #2 Share Posted July 25 Celebrity does not have any such similar aspects. Points and status do not expire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cublet Posted July 25 #3 Share Posted July 25 5 minutes ago, cruisestitch said: Celebrity does not have any such similar aspects. Points and status do not expire. Hello, Don't go giving them ideas! Regards,. Cublet 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallyj Posted July 25 #4 Share Posted July 25 @swjumbo, I believe with Disney you need to cruise at least every 5 years to maintain status and with MSC it is 4 years. Have not heard of others thinking of adopting this practice. Virgin might also have something similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare chemmo Posted July 25 #5 Share Posted July 25 3 hours ago, swjumbo said: On my Celebrity journey I, one day, would hope to be Zenith. When I fly with an airline or stay with a major hotel group they expect me to maintain my status by using them a few times per year. As a regular customer, who has a few cruises booked and paid for, (and Elite) I’d like know that the upper echelons of the CC fraternity are also contributing towards the company and not resting on their laurels. X I don’t think that members of the higher level of CC rest on their laurels but they are probably more interested in their full lives than being an E+ or Zenith! I am E+ and never likely to be Zenith as my life isn’t just about cruising. Over the last year I have enjoyed AI resorts, luxury lodges and family breaks. At some point I may cruise with another line from the UK as I don’t want to book E class…No cruise now until next year in the Caribbean on Reflection… Indeed many Zeniths have also reported recently being ‘unfaithful’ and trying other lines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLakeGirl Posted July 25 #6 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 6 hours ago, swjumbo said: On my Celebrity journey I, one day, would hope to be Zenith. When I fly with an airline or stay with a major hotel group they expect me to maintain my status by using them a few times per year. As a regular customer, who has a few cruises booked and paid for, (and Elite) I’d like know that the upper echelons of the CC fraternity are also contributing towards the company and not resting on their laurels. X Swjumbo, Do you have a question for the board? Edited July 25 by WestLakeGirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swjumbo Posted July 25 Author #7 Share Posted July 25 6 minutes ago, WestLakeGirl said: Swjumbo, Do you have a question for the board? No. I thought this would be an interesting discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaveitallbehind Posted July 25 #8 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 7 hours ago, swjumbo said: As a regular customer, who has a few cruises booked and paid for, (and Elite) I’d like know that the upper echelons of the CC fraternity are also contributing towards the company and not resting on their laurels. The fact that reaching the "upper echelons of the CC fraternity" is only the result of those cruisers committing a substantial amount of discretionary money over time with the many cruises required to do so assures your concerns. Certainly exponentially more than those occasional cruisers and comparatively lower echelon members. This is an odd concern to be expressed IMO and one whose answer is clearly self evident as these members wouldn't be upper echelon members by "resting on their laurels". In fact they may hope that you continue to as diligently on your quest. Edited July 25 by leaveitallbehind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahasamatman Posted July 25 #9 Share Posted July 25 6 hours ago, wallyj said: I believe with Disney you need to cruise at least every 5 years to maintain status and with MSC it is 4 years. MSC is 3 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doghog Posted July 25 #10 Share Posted July 25 I don't concern myself with others tier level and how they achieved that tier level. I have yet to speak with anyone onboard about their tier level. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfred Posted July 25 #11 Share Posted July 25 x hasn't done this because it doesnt cost them really any money or aggravation at present - a few drinks. Once legacy pax create an issue with space (in the Retreat) crowding out customers who have paid for the Retreat then the party is over X wants to retain "presently profitable" customers , not the DYKWIA? crowd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeRick Posted July 25 #12 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 4 hours ago, swjumbo said: No. I thought this would be an interesting discussion. An interesting discussion of what exactly? Are you saying "Should Celebrity have an expiration on Captain's Club Points?". If that's it I vote no. Or are you asking if the actual CC level achieved should be voided and go back to entry level after a certain number of inactive years? I still vote no. Edited July 25 by TeeRick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfred Posted July 25 #13 Share Posted July 25 1 minute ago, TeeRick said: An interesting discussion of what exactly? Are you saying "Should Celebrity have an expiration on Captain's Club Points?". If that's it I vote no. No one who is a CC member would vote yes to limit their benefits. Every airline, every airport lounge and every hotel has an expiration based on nights, money and length of loyalty. Most of those are yearly and there is a reason for that - to clear out low/no dollar customers who want (top) tier benefits. CC benefits are pretty minimal anyway, Some drinks, discounts on some services, maybe a bag of laundry. Doesnt cost that much and makes people feel good. Cruise lines would be hard to demand much to retain status - some combination of nights and dollars. However they will when/if the Retreat lounge gets too cozy with legacy (they owe me for sailing on Mercury !) pax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeRick Posted July 25 #14 Share Posted July 25 1 minute ago, tfred said: No one who is a CC member would vote yes to limit their benefits. Every airline, every airport lounge and every hotel has an expiration based on nights, money and length of loyalty. Most of those are yearly and there is a reason for that - to clear out low/no dollar customers who want (top) tier benefits. CC benefits are pretty minimal anyway, Some drinks, discounts on some services, maybe a bag of laundry. Doesnt cost that much and makes people feel good. Cruise lines would be hard to demand much to retain status - some combination of nights and dollars. However they will when/if the Retreat lounge gets too cozy with legacy (they owe me for sailing on Mercury !) pax. I was just trying to discern what the OP @swjumbo was actually asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLakeGirl Posted July 25 #15 Share Posted July 25 I don’t think the OP was asking anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DaKahuna Posted July 25 #16 Share Posted July 25 7 hours ago, wallyj said: MSC it is 4 years. I believe MSC is three years vice four. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallyj Posted July 25 #17 Share Posted July 25 @mahasamatmanand @DaKahuna, thank you for correcting my post regarding MSC. I have not sailed with MSC recently, so remembered incorrectly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted July 25 #18 Share Posted July 25 1 hour ago, tfred said: x hasn't done this because it doesnt cost them really any money or aggravation at present - a few drinks. Once legacy pax create an issue with space (in the Retreat) crowding out customers who have paid for the Retreat then the party is over X wants to retain "presently profitable" customers , not the DYKWIA? crowd If it doesn't cost them any money, why not offer free laundry, CaB coffee, and 5-7 happy hours to everyone for free? Like many things, this has been discussed in length before. The short version is that many will book the sail-only rate without the drink package and rely on the elite breakfast and elite happy hour for their drink For me personally, On X, I have never paid for pressing, laundry, or coffee and usually get my drinks from the casino yet may have purchased a drink or two per sailing. Once I became Elite, I started doing laundry, pressing, the elite happy hour, and coffee during the elite breakfast on every sailing including a 4-nighter. Once Elite Plus, I have 1-2 coffees daily and do the second bag of laundry (if needed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted July 25 #19 Share Posted July 25 I appreciate they offer lifetime status. At they end of the day, they offer it because their competitors do. Perhaps one day they'll change to a requalify model but you'd imagine that would be for NEW cruisers only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaveitallbehind Posted July 25 #20 Share Posted July 25 (edited) I think a key point to keep in mind is that, although under the RCG family, Celebrity and RCCL are separate and independent cruise line companies. They also have distinctly different offerings and target demographics. As such they have developed their own loyalty programs and associated benefits to suit their own purposes, a process that began long before they offered the concept of benefit reciprocity. I don't think the idea of this, including the most recent alignment of tiers with the reciprocity, was ever aimed at equalizing the benefits, only just offering a sharing of benefits at each tier level when sailing on each. The discussion of which loyalty program is better at which level always will generate differing opinions as they each have different benefits. It is IMO just a matter of which cruise line suits any given cruiser for the different reasons they select to cruise with each line. The loyalty programs and their associated benefits are secondary. But as I cruise both for different reasons at different times, I am glad I can enjoy the loyalty benefits of each when I cruise with them. Edited July 25 by leaveitallbehind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C 2 C Posted July 25 #21 Share Posted July 25 8 hours ago, swjumbo said: No. I thought this would be an interesting discussion. "As a regular customer, who has a few cruises booked and paid for" How regular and how few? Most Zeniths I know cruise a few months of the year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swjumbo Posted July 25 Author #22 Share Posted July 25 3 minutes ago, C 2 C said: "As a regular customer, who has a few cruises booked and paid for" How regular and how few? Most Zeniths I know cruise a few months of the year. Apex in two days, Beyond at the end of next month, QA in October, Apex in April, QM 2 in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goofysmom99 Posted July 25 #23 Share Posted July 25 3 hours ago, tfred said: CC benefits are pretty minimal anyway, Some drinks, discounts on some services, maybe a bag of laundry. Doesnt cost that much and makes people feel good. I always thought the Pinnacle pins were sooo tacky, but now zeniths can have a swell pin, too. Hmm, I wonder if I can paraphrase the dictionary example for use of the word déclassé: Celebrity, a once-great cruise line that has become completely déclassé. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted July 25 #24 Share Posted July 25 2 hours ago, goofysmom99 said: I always thought the Pinnacle pins were sooo tacky, but now zeniths can have a swell pin, too. Hmm, I wonder if I can paraphrase the dictionary example for use of the word déclassé: Celebrity, a once-great cruise line that has become completely déclassé. #RememberCookieGate would be quite the conversation starter...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C 2 C Posted July 26 #25 Share Posted July 26 22 hours ago, swjumbo said: Apex in two days, Beyond at the end of next month, QA in October, Apex in April, QM 2 in June. When you stray to another line, they deduct a 100 pts for being unfaithful. 😇 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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