Rare KKB Posted July 26 #1 Share Posted July 26 I can only find year old information. I can see that Summit, Millenium, Silhouette & Equinox (partially) were revolutionized. Have any other M or S class ships been revolutionized? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrk2cruise Posted July 26 #2 Share Posted July 26 (edited) Not that I'm aware. Pretty sure those are the only non E class that have a Retreat Sun Deck. I've heard some very disappointed people in Retreat Lounge when they find out the ship they are on doesn't have the Retreat amenities they thought they were getting based on the website. Edited July 26 by wrk2cruise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liao Posted July 26 #3 Share Posted July 26 4 minutes ago, wrk2cruise said: Not that I'm aware. Pretty sure those are the only non E class that have a Retreat Sun Deck. I've heard some very disappointed people in Retreat Lounge when they find out the ship they are on doesn't have the Retreat amenities they thought they were getting based on the website. My own personal opinion, but on Summit, they really have no business calling it the 'Retreat'. They were designed for eclass, and they did a great job, but there is no comparison on the refurbished ships. That said, I love Summit and would definitely sail her again, I stayed in a Celebrity Suite but Retreat sundeck and lounge don't begin to compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardener5b Posted July 26 #4 Share Posted July 26 I don't have experience with the Retreat, but have sailed twice on the Summit since it was revolutionized. I thought the ship looked amazing. The cabins (at least in Aqua) had a very nice refresh and the public spaces looked really nicely done. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Jim_Iain Posted July 26 #5 Share Posted July 26 (edited) If I recall correctly the only M and S Class ships that got the revolution were Celebrity Millennium — February 9, 2019 — Completed! Celebrity Summit — March 23, 2019 — Completed! Celebrity Silhouette — February 14, 2020 — Completed! Celebrity Equinox — June 1, 2019 — Completed! But had an accident in shipyard and did not get the full Revolution ----they didn't get the Retreat Sun Deck On the ships that did not get the Revolution the rooms have not been updated and most still have the old dark wooded Michael's Club. I think I read they upgraded Infinity Michael's Club to Retreat on last dry dock. Edited July 26 by Jim_Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted July 26 #6 Share Posted July 26 what's next? we heard Eclipse.?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liao Posted July 26 #7 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, hcat said: what's next? we heard Eclipse.?? April 2025 at the end of a TA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted July 26 #8 Share Posted July 26 Seems like their original revolution plans were created around 2017, a lot has changed including X's leadership. Entirely possible a Revolutionized Eclipse in 2025 doesn't look like the Millie or Sillie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted July 26 #9 Share Posted July 26 31 minutes ago, NutsAboutGolf said: Seems like their original revolution plans were created around 2017, a lot has changed including X's leadership. Entirely possible a Revolutionized Eclipse in 2025 doesn't look like the Millie or Sillie we're booked for Jan 2026 on Eclipse..hoping for some updates! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DaKahuna Posted July 26 #10 Share Posted July 26 2 hours ago, Jim_Iain said: most still have the old dark wooded Michael's Club. I love that place. Will be happy to be on it on the Solstice next year! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DaKahuna Posted July 26 #11 Share Posted July 26 2 hours ago, hcat said: what's next? we heard Eclipse.?? Hopefully none unless they change the design. The Hoppenized furniture sucks and the stateroom as classic examples of form over functionality! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted July 26 #12 Share Posted July 26 4 minutes ago, DaKahuna said: Hopefully none unless they change the design. The Hoppenized furniture sucks and the stateroom as classic examples of form over functionality! I would expect the Hoppen influence may be limited... hope so! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaveitallbehind Posted July 26 #13 Share Posted July 26 (edited) 43 minutes ago, NutsAboutGolf said: Seems like their original revolution plans were created around 2017, a lot has changed including X's leadership. Entirely possible a Revolutionized Eclipse in 2025 doesn't look like the Millie or Sillie I think the pandemic influenced a lot of plans. First, with the Revolutionized schedules that were in place themselves, all of which post 2019 had to be canceled. Second, with the shutdown extending as long as it did with no incoming revenue and literally billions of $ lost, the budgets and financial plans were completely revamped and reprioritized, with the Revolutionized plans basically scrapped - at least at the time. With newbuilds now taking the priority and many of the already older ships now several years older, I'm not sure which of them that were planned to be Revolutionized now will be. Just have to wait and see, I guess. JMO. Edited July 26 by leaveitallbehind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Jim_Iain Posted July 26 #14 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, leaveitallbehind said: I think the pandemic influenced a lot of plans. First, with the Revolutionized schedules that were in place themselves, all of which post 2019 had to be canceled. Second, with the shutdown extending as long as it did with no incoming revenue and literally billions of $ lost, the budgets and financial plans were completely revamped and reprioritized, with the Revolutionized plans basically scrapped - at least at the time. With newbuilds now taking the priority and many of the already older ships now several years older, I'm not sure which of them that were planned to be Revolutionized now will be. Just have to wait and see, I guess. JMO. JMO - but I don't think they will be doing and full revolutions but may do some upgrading similar to the recent changes to Infinity - they updated Michael's Club to Retreat Lounge with non-Hoppner furniture... Yea... And changes to Luminae - increasing the number of tables and added Sunset Suites. https://www.travelwires.com/celebrity-infinity-unveils-luxurious-upgrades-for-european-exploration 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaveitallbehind Posted July 26 #15 Share Posted July 26 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jim_Iain said: JMO - but I don't think they will be doing and full revolutions but may do some upgrading similar to the recent changes to Infinity - they updated Michael's Club to Retreat Lounge with non-Hoppner furniture... Yea... And changes to Luminae - increasing the number of tables and added Sunset Suites. https://www.travelwires.com/celebrity-infinity-unveils-luxurious-upgrades-for-european-exploration I agree and it is very likely that they would be doing updates, refreshes, etc., with the current booking levels and revenue recovery. I'm just saying I don't know of a firm plan in place in particular with some of the older ships to Revolutionize them as originally planned in 2017. Edited July 26 by leaveitallbehind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelayne Posted July 26 #16 Share Posted July 26 The question was asked in the Q& As with the CEO at the top of this board. The question title is Revolution Plans. Below is the answer given 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaveitallbehind Posted July 26 #17 Share Posted July 26 2 minutes ago, jelayne said: The question was asked in the Q& As with the CEO at the top of this board. The question title is Revolution Plans. Below is the answer given IMO, it sounds rather non-specific to me. "Making improvements" doesn't exactly sound like a commitment to the original Revolutionize plans. Guess time will tell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted July 26 #18 Share Posted July 26 4 minutes ago, leaveitallbehind said: IMO, it sounds rather non-specific to me. "Making improvements" doesn't exactly sound like a commitment to the original Revolutionize plans. Guess time will tell We can take it a step further as she said "CONTINUOUSLY making improvements" which is the exact opposite of a single-stop dry dock "revolution" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelayne Posted July 26 #19 Share Posted July 26 6 minutes ago, leaveitallbehind said: IMO, it sounds rather non-specific to me. "Making improvements" doesn't exactly sound like a commitment to the original Revolutionize plans. Guess time will tell When it said they were dreaming up the modernization plans I read that the Revolutionizing plans are scraped. They had the plans to update S & M so no need to dream. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted July 26 #20 Share Posted July 26 Celebrity/X's social media team on X/Twitter has been awesome as they seem to have POCs on every ship and corporate. Answers may take a week but have always received a satisfactory answer About a year ago I asked about the revolutionary schedule, and their response: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaveitallbehind Posted July 26 #21 Share Posted July 26 Just now, jelayne said: When it said they were dreaming up the modernization plans I read that the Revolutionizing plans are scraped. They had the plans to update S & M so no need to dream. Everything changed with the shutdown. If you think about it most of the original Revolutionizing plans would have been completed 2 years or so ago but for that. As I mentioned before with the focus now on new "E" class ships and with the "S" ships being more of the mainstay, the "M" class ships may eventually fade away or just continue with special itineraries. They will certainly be maintained, but likely not further improved. Again, as always, JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Jim_Iain Posted July 26 #22 Share Posted July 26 34 minutes ago, leaveitallbehind said: IMO, it sounds rather non-specific to me. "Making improvements" doesn't exactly sound like a commitment to the original Revolutionize plans. Guess time will tell I picked up on the word "Modernization" not Revolution, which may mean mini- revolutions during dry dock instead of adding Retreat Decks and Refurbishing the rooms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted July 26 #23 Share Posted July 26 (edited) Her answer was very vague.. Guess we'll hope for the best on Eclipse...mostly hoping the room is " modernized".. Good mattress and chairs that are comfy. We'll be in AQuaclass so I'm sure BLU will have its signature look! Edited July 26 by hcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Airbalancer Posted July 26 #24 Share Posted July 26 Can the old ship plug into shore power, I believe in 2028 EU all cruise ships must be able to connect to shore power it might not be worth to up grade ships to 2025 standards I could really see the Connie and Infinity leaving soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelayne Posted July 26 #25 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, leaveitallbehind said: Everything changed with the shutdown. If you think about it most of the original Revolutionizing plans would have been completed 2 years or so ago but for that. As I mentioned before with the focus now on new "E" class ships and with the "S" ships being more of the mainstay, the "M" class ships may eventually fade away or just continue with special itineraries. They will certainly be maintained, but likely not further improved. Again, as always, JMO. I agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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