doghog Posted August 25 #126 Share Posted August 25 I remember years ago we were walking in the SL for the evening CC HH and a couple in front of us were denied entrance (even though they walked by the sign that said "private event...") as they were not Elite or above. They had a hissy fit and said something to the effect, this is BS, because it's a public venue and shouldn't be reserved. So now the shoe is on the other foot, I can see where they were coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisestitch Posted August 25 #127 Share Posted August 25 11 minutes ago, NMTraveller said: It seems like some sort of compensation should be offered as they are taking away one of the main areas of the ship. I doubt that they will, but ... Dream on…. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheeng Posted August 25 #128 Share Posted August 25 I don’t know exactly what time they started but right now at 3:00pm Sky Lounge is closed for a park west function and they will not open for regular, paying Celebrity cruisers until 9:00pm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiscs Posted August 25 #129 Share Posted August 25 9 minutes ago, sheeng said: I don’t know exactly what time they started but right now at 3:00pm Sky Lounge is closed for a park west function and they will not open for regular, paying Celebrity cruisers until 9:00pm. So it open for all until 3pm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NMTraveller Posted August 25 #130 Share Posted August 25 (edited) 52 minutes ago, cruisestitch said: supposedly, and I share this with a healthy dose of personal skepticism, there are some pieces of art valued at six figures and above and there are some reasons to worry about their security. They must have had their printers printing all night for such a pricey piece of "art" 🤣 About 10 years ago we attended a Park West auction where some $80k pieces of art were sold. I would suppose that they have pricier pieces in the back that can be brought out. This was not for a private showing just for the general public. Edited August 25 by NMTraveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandryl Posted August 25 #131 Share Posted August 25 On 8/24/2024 at 12:33 PM, doghog said: Agree. Possibly some go to get a glass or two of the cheap sparkling wine PW pushes as champagne. 🥂 True Story! , that's exactly what happened to me and I ended up with a Tomas Kincaid print!! They pushed that bubbly on me & (I drank it)😄Got sucked in to the whole experience! Never again!! I put my champagne glass down and staggered out of there while I could still walk! 😂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Click Posted August 25 #132 Share Posted August 25 1 hour ago, doghog said: I remember years ago we were walking in the SL for the evening CC HH and a couple in front of us were denied entrance (even though they walked by the sign that said "private event...") as they were not Elite or above. They had a hissy fit and said something to the effect, this is BS, because it's a public venue and shouldn't be reserved. So now the shoe is on the other foot, I can see where they were coming from. The CC HH event now is just once a cruise. Yes it used to be every night but that is gone. It is also a published event so most people know it is happening. This Park West crap has been almost every day. We stopped bothering to go up there after the third day. The good news is that this is the only negative on this cruise so far. Everything else has been first class, they even opened the helipad for Prinz Christian Sund and we have had no missed ports. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NMTraveller Posted August 25 #133 Share Posted August 25 (edited) 24 minutes ago, shandryl said: True Story! , that's exactly what happened to me and I ended up with a Tomas Kincaid print!! They pushed that bubbly on me & (I drank it)😄Got sucked in to the whole experience! Never again!! I put my champagne glass down and staggered out of there while I could still walk! 😂 The champagne helps out when you are purchasing some of those limited edtion giclees. 🤣 I suspect they are not very limited or rare. Edited August 25 by NMTraveller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NMTraveller Posted August 25 #134 Share Posted August 25 4 hours ago, canderson said: Personally, it's not just the fact that a private company would have taken over 'our' public space, it's the idea that the private company that occupies it has previously demonstrated the integrity of a used car lot run out of a trailer with a big "We Finance Here" sign hanging crookedly over the door. Worse, and here's the nub of it, they're making a profit at our expense. What? My limited edition giclee's are not rare or limited? 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahasamatman Posted August 25 #135 Share Posted August 25 15 hours ago, cruisestitch said: I have no information on why people would buy art on a cruise ship. Just like I don't see why people would buy overpriced alcohol, gamble in the casino, or pay twice for dinner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billc23 Posted August 25 #136 Share Posted August 25 4 hours ago, markeb said: Doesn't fit their business strategy. Price everything appropriately high and include almost everything. They don't need the side gig. And are apparently meeting their internal metrics to RCG because they also don't have a seat on the board. Last week I booked an Alaska cruise for 2025. Vancouver to Seaward. Booking the Retreat on Celebrity was more expensive than Silversea. So I chose Silversea - easy decision. Silversea includes much more for the same price than the Retreat on many similar sailings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billc23 Posted August 25 #137 Share Posted August 25 18 minutes ago, mahasamatman said: Just like I don't see why people would buy overpriced alcohol, gamble in the casino, or pay twice for dinner. What about the spa, jewelry, watches... At home, when going out, I'm accustomed to paying a premium for alcohol - but it is a nice change from drinking at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Airbalancer Posted August 25 #138 Share Posted August 25 This thread was posted in my google news thread I think everyone should go on FB & X and post a link to this thread and tell Celebrity how unhappy we are with Parkwest taking over the Sky Lounge 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichYak Posted August 25 #139 Share Posted August 25 33 minutes ago, mahasamatman said: Just like I don't see why people would buy overpriced alcohol What other kind of alcohol is there on board? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doghog Posted August 25 #140 Share Posted August 25 1 hour ago, Mr. Click said: The CC HH event now is just once a cruise. Yes it used to be every night but that is gone. It is also a published event so most people know it is happening. This Park West crap has been almost every day. We stopped bothering to go up there after the third day. The good news is that this is the only negative on this cruise so far. Everything else has been first class, they even opened the helipad for Prinz Christian Sund and we have had no missed ports. I'm well aware how the CC HH use to be.. It was never every evening pre covid. Nothing on the first evening. Currently the HH in a reserved lounge is twice or three times a cruise. Depending on the length of the cruise. IMO, it sucks that Celebrity allows PW to take over that venue no matter the time of day/evening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billc23 Posted August 25 #141 Share Posted August 25 As a former strong defender of Celebrity - a cheerleader I suppose - I wonder how many Celebrity loyalists will begin to look elsewhere? What event will be the final straw? I began pursuing other options for sailing about 2 years ago because of a variety of small irritations on my Celebrity cruises and the increase in the Retreat pricing. Since June of this year I have booked 2 Celebrity cruises but many more on MSC (6) and Silversea (12 weeks). Used to be all Celebrity and the occasional Royal with older grandkids. Times have changed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doghog Posted August 25 #142 Share Posted August 25 1 minute ago, billc23 said: As a former strong defender of Celebrity - a cheerleader I suppose - I wonder how many Celebrity loyalists will begin to look elsewhere? What event will be the final straw? I began pursuing other options for sailing about 2 years ago because of a variety of small irritations on my Celebrity cruises and the increase in the Retreat pricing. Since June of this year I have booked 2 Celebrity cruises but many more on MSC (6) and Silversea (12 weeks). Used to be all Celebrity and the occasional Royal with older grandkids. Times have changed. We like Celebrity, just not and never have been loyal to them or any of the cruise lines we cruise with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doghog Posted August 25 #143 Share Posted August 25 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Ex-Airbalancer said: This thread was posted in my google news thread I think everyone should go on FB & X and post a link to this thread and tell Celebrity how unhappy we are with Parkwest taking over the Sky Lounge We'll express our concerns with Celebrity if this effects us on our September cruise. I want to do it based on our experience. On second thought an Email to the executive office. Cruise or no cruise. Edited August 25 by doghog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted August 25 #144 Share Posted August 25 is anyone familiar with the apprasers or how the " appraisals" are obtained? Are they guaranteed? Are the values consistent with post cruise valuations ? New CEO Strike One.. Pristine Cococay now a theme park. Strike Two....this Waiting for Strike Three! Makes LLP look good! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NMTraveller Posted August 25 #145 Share Posted August 25 There is a bunch of Park West art on Ebay for a fraction of the PW price. All with PW COAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NMTraveller Posted August 25 #146 Share Posted August 25 (edited) 15 minutes ago, hcat said: is anyone familiar with the apprasers or how the " appraisals" are obtained? Are they guaranteed? Are the values consistent with post cruise valuations ? PW used their own appraisers and not independent. You can view the post cruise pricing on Ebay. It is a fraction of PW pricing. A bunch of PW art being resold for a fraction of the original PW price. Buyer's remorse? For mine. I like the art, but realize I overpaid for it. Part of a learning experience. Edited August 25 by NMTraveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39august Posted August 25 #147 Share Posted August 25 What was the executive office e-mail address again? IF everyone impacted by these situations sent their thought to Miami, maybe they might listen. They did listen to the complaints about taking Decoy cab out of the premium package earlier this year. And a lesser problem but one they still heard a lot about was the "vaping" to be allo9wed in the casino. So, everyone tell them how you feel about this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swjumbo Posted August 25 #148 Share Posted August 25 Wow! Sooo many bad reviews here and rightly so. I’ve just Googled Park West and there are loads of bad stories and rip offs. We love Celebrity but knowing that they are stopping decent people from accessing the Sky Lounge to accommodate these charlatans really makes me question my favourite cruise line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted August 25 #149 Share Posted August 25 1 hour ago, Ex-Airbalancer said: This thread was posted in my google news thread I think everyone should go on FB & X and post a link to this thread and tell Celebrity how unhappy we are with Parkwest taking over the Sky Lounge They will simply post a FB message asking you to send them a PM. So divide and conquer tactic. And act 'surprised' that you were disappointed. They will not respond publically on FB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NMTraveller Posted August 25 #150 Share Posted August 25 For those that have never been to a Park West auction, here is a very good article that describes such an auction along with some pricing comps. We Went to an Art Auction on a Cruise Ship. It Was… Unusual (artnet.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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