jmele999 Posted October 11, 2015 #4551 Share Posted October 11, 2015 A (half) peek at Bayamo's menu: Based on the prices on the menu, it looks like Bayamo will be cheaper than Ocean Blue on the -away ships. However, I don't expect the quality or the presentation of the food to be the same. An app, entree and dessert will cost between $25 and $40 so including the 18% gratuity and some drinks, you are looking at a dinner costing around $100.00 or more for two guests. I wonder how popular this restaurant is going to be. Glad that we already made reservations and with the UDP only paid the $15 fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmele999 Posted October 11, 2015 #4552 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Any news on a chefs table yet? The menu for the Chef's table is likely to be the same. The menu has not changed in the last four/five years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minoushka Posted October 11, 2015 #4553 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Is Bayamo included in dinner packages ...I am not ready to spend another 50$ on dinner but if included well of course I will try it I like Caneysand Modernos ...was not crazy about Tepanyaki or Cucina or Bistro Could I go back to same restaurant if not ..i have 5 meals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisinHarvey Posted October 11, 2015 #4554 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I'm very interested in how they'll handle the platinum dinners now that Le Bistro will be al a carte. The same goes for the CAS free dinner voucher we always get for being HOT status, use for Cagney's. Hopefully, some of the first cruisers can let us know. Curious about the Le Bistro and Cagney's menu's too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortech Posted October 11, 2015 #4555 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Is Bayamo included in dinner packages ...I am not ready to spend another 50$ on dinner but if included well of course I will try it I like Caneysand Modernos ...was not crazy about Tepanyaki or Cucina or Bistro Could I go back to same restaurant if not ..i have 5 meals Bayamo is not included in the ultimate dining package or the specialty dining package. UDP gets 25% off. SDP can be used and will require a 15$ upcharge. You can repeat restaurants on the dining plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmele999 Posted October 11, 2015 #4556 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Bayamo is not included in the ultimate dining package or the specialty dining package. UDP gets 25% off. SDP can be used and will require a 15$ upcharge. You can repeat restaurants on the dining plans. Actually, if you have the UDP or SDP, you only pay the $15 upcharge. I think that the UDP used to get 25% off but that changed on October 1 and now it is only the $15 upcharge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SissasMomE Posted October 11, 2015 #4557 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Based on the prices on the menu, it looks like Bayamo will be cheaper than Ocean Blue on the -away ships. However, I don't expect the quality or the presentation of the food to be the same. An app, entree and dessert will cost between $25 and $40 so including the 18% gratuity and some drinks, you are looking at a dinner costing around $100.00 or more for two guests. I wonder how popular this restaurant is going to be. Glad that we already made reservations and with the UDP only paid the $15 fee. We'll pass. ;) Can't imagine it being worth it on a ship that caters to 3,000 people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaWatcher65 Posted October 11, 2015 #4558 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the sneak peak at Bayamo's menu. Definitely will do once, maybe twice. But I wonder if the NCL bean counters are considering if the value of SDP is enough to make people buy it. I'm not sure about purchasing the SDP and committing to a certain number of specialty dinners. If I'm wrong with my own bean counting, let me know. For Bayamo -- paying a la carte, I calculate about $47 per person (for two apps, $25 entree - some are less, and one dessert and 18% gratuity). Using the SDP, the cost is $40 ($87 cost for 4-meal SDP divided by 4 meals = $22 per meal plus $15 surcharge and $3 gratuity on that). Savings = $7 per person. For Supper Club -- people are reporting that using the SDP actually costs more if the regular price is $35 ($30 plus 18% gratuity) compared to using the SDP $40 ($22 SDP cost plus $18 surcharge). For Moderno -- the regular cost is $24 including gratuity and using the SDP is only $2 less. Cagneys, LeBistro, and Teppanyaki seem like the only places where there might be some savings by using the SDP. Edited October 11, 2015 by SeaWatcher65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmele999 Posted October 11, 2015 #4559 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Thanks for the sneak peak at Bayamo's menu. Definitely will do once, maybe twice. But I wonder if the NCL bean counters are considering if the value of SDP is enough to make people buy it. I'm not sure about purchasing the SDP and committing to a certain number of specialty dinners. If I'm wrong with my own bean counting, let me know. For Bayamo -- paying a la carte, I calculate about $47 per person (for two apps, $25 entree - some are less, and one dessert and 18% gratuity). Using the SDP, the cost is $40 ($87 cost for 4-meal SDP divided by 4 meals = $22 per meal plus $15 surcharge and $3 gratuity on that). Savings = $7 per person. For Supper Club -- people are reporting that using the SDP actually costs more if the regular price is $35 ($30 plus 18% gratuity) compared to using the SDP $40 ($22 SDP cost plus $18 surcharge). For Moderno -- the regular cost is $24 including gratuity and using the SDP is only $2 less. Cagneys, LeBistro, and Teppanyaki seem like the only places where there might be some savings by using the SDP. Keeping this discussion focused on Escape, I think that the SDP is not a great deal especially if you are planning on going to the Supper club and Bayamo. However, there is a significant saving for those who are planning on visiting Cagney's, Le Bistro and Teppanyaki as you pointed out. Finally, keep in mind that NCL is not really trying to save you money with the SDP, but trying to find a happy compromise between those who enjoy the UDP (no longer available) and those who only want to enjoy a couple of speciality dinners. We only eat in speciality restaurants because we like the service and consider that the quality of the food is better than in the MDR. However, once we complete our three upcoming cruises (all with UDP), we will need to evaluate our choices considering that the UDP will no longer be offered. If the SDP is offered as a booking perk for booking a suite, then we will take it, and either enjoy some nights at the MDR or allocate more funds to paying for speciality restaurants out of pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LrgPizza Posted October 11, 2015 #4560 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I just got a Marine Traffic notification that Escape has departed from Bremerhaven. Where the heck is she going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky4ever Posted October 11, 2015 #4561 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I just got a Marine Traffic notification that Escape has departed from Bremerhaven. Where the heck is she going? Sea trials - Hamburg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peg013 Posted October 11, 2015 #4562 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) :o Already answered. Edited October 11, 2015 by peg013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minoushka Posted October 11, 2015 #4563 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Go escape go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff79 Posted October 11, 2015 #4564 Share Posted October 11, 2015 after the sea trials the escape will go on tuesday in hamburg into the blohm&voss dock for 24 hours like quantum and anthem before. on tuesday you can see the escape on the hamburg harbour webcams, there are some. hope we can see some great pics from her. http://www.hamburg.de/livecam-hafen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfin55 Posted October 11, 2015 #4565 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Thought trials are over. Her current track look like a set course. No wired maneuvers yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjnyc323 Posted October 11, 2015 #4566 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Thought trials are over. Her current track look like a set course. No wired maneuvers yet. She's going to Hamburg for some work and then back to Bremerhaven for finishing touches before handover of ship to NCL on 10/22/15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnacle_boy Posted October 11, 2015 #4567 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Yes, her originally scheduled trials were completed. However, Escape is now on an additional set of trials, after which she will go into dry-dock to correct some issues emanating from a poor installation of her sea chests (water intakes). Some of the recent Meyer Werft ships have also experienced similar last-minute issues. This should not negatively impact her delivery date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minoushka Posted October 11, 2015 #4568 Share Posted October 11, 2015 She better be delivered on time i do not want to be stranded in Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjnyc323 Posted October 11, 2015 #4569 Share Posted October 11, 2015 She better be delivered on time i do not want to be stranded in Southampton No worries she will be delivered on time Suzanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortech Posted October 12, 2015 #4570 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Actually, if you have the UDP or SDP, you only pay the $15 upcharge. I think that the UDP used to get 25% off but that changed on October 1 and now it is only the $15 upcharge. OK. I'm going by this: http://www.ncl.com/udp/faq Keeping this discussion focused on Escape, I think that the SDP is not a great deal especially if you are planning on going to the Supper club and Bayamo. However, there is a significant saving for those who are planning on visiting Cagney's, Le Bistro and Teppanyaki as you pointed out. Finally, keep in mind that NCL is not really trying to save you money with the SDP, but trying to find a happy compromise between those who enjoy the UDP (no longer available) and those who only want to enjoy a couple of speciality dinners. We only eat in speciality restaurants because we like the service and consider that the quality of the food is better than in the MDR. However, once we complete our three upcoming cruises (all with UDP), we will need to evaluate our choices considering that the UDP will no longer be offered. If the SDP is offered as a booking perk for booking a suite, then we will take it, and either enjoy some nights at the MDR or allocate more funds to paying for speciality restaurants out of pocket. I hadn't really been looking at the numbers because we got the UDP free with the booking, but there's a LOT of stuff on the Escape (and increasingly on the other ships) that does not work well with the UDP/SDP. If we were paying for the UDP/SDP I'd feel kind of ripped off by eating at the Tapas Bar and Food Republic and tobacco road, and The Supper club, the Haven Restaurant, and ESPECIALLY the Chef's Table —*which does not even have a UDP discount. Not to mention the fact that we didn't enjoy or want to eat at some of the specialties in the past. I think I kind of like being able to choose a shorter than all-days number of restaurants and just see a little benefit from pre-paying. Actually, I had been thinking I'd pick UDP over UBP if I had to choose, but on the BA+ or BA ships, I think I'd reverse that. Edited October 12, 2015 by Vortech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjnyc323 Posted October 12, 2015 #4571 Share Posted October 12, 2015 OK. I'm going by this: http://www.ncl.com/udp/faq I hadn't really been looking at the numbers because we got the UDP free with the booking, but there's a LOT of stuff on the Escape (and increasingly on the other ships) that does not work well with the UDP/SDP. If we were paying for the UDP/SDP I'd feel kind of ripped off by eating at the Tapas Bar and Food Republic and tobacco road, and The Supper club, the Haven Restaurant, and ESPECIALLY the Chef's Table —*which does not even have a UDP discount. Not to mention the fact that we didn't enjoy or want to eat at some of the specialties in the past. I think I kind of like being able to choose a shorter than all-days number of restaurants and just see a little benefit from pre-paying. Actually, I had been thinking I'd pick UDP over UBP if I had to choose, but on the BA+ or BA ships, I think I'd reverse that. The haven restaurant is no charge and only for suite passengers serving breakfast, lunch and dinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamr Posted October 12, 2015 #4572 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Got my Escape brochure today! Thank you to whomever posted the request link. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted October 12, 2015 #4573 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Radio Hamburg and Radio Hamburg 2 are organizing a sail-away party on the 23rd at Hamburg Landungsbrücken (BTW there is a sweepstake on both websites for one balcony cabin each for the pre inaugural on the 23rd). The Escape is scheduled to set sail at 6:15 pm. Party starts at 6 pm. There will be fireworks at 7 pm. You can watch the sail away on Friday, 23rd on various webcams. steamboats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnacle_boy Posted October 12, 2015 #4574 Share Posted October 12, 2015 The haven restaurant is no charge and only for suite passengers serving breakfast, lunch and dinner If you are staying in the Haven, it's possible to arrange for another passenger to dine with you in the evening for a surcharge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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