aussiewalker Posted September 27, 2016 #4226 Share Posted September 27, 2016 We have over 1000 days on HAL and always stay in verandah cabins. And we have been bothered by smoke quite a few times. A couple of cruises we could not even use our verandah. I think you mean you chose not to use your verandah. I can't believe you were not allowed on your verandah by HAL, it was your own choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxmantoo Posted September 27, 2016 #4227 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Our message to the OP is that booking (and paying extra money) for a balcony on HAL is a bit like playing craps. Sometimes you win, sometimes your break even, and other times you really crap out! After several "lucky" cruises on HAL where we were totally unaffected, we finally crapped out on our recent Mediterranean cruise in a Neptune Suite on the Rotterdam deck. Smokers on the balcony to the left of us, smokers on the balcony to the right of us and smokers on the balcony above us :eek: Our balcony time was cut short quite a few times when we heard their doors opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie68 Posted September 27, 2016 #4228 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I think you mean you chose not to use your verandah. I can't believe you were not allowed on your verandah by HAL, it was your own choice. Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holacanada Posted September 27, 2016 #4229 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) Just like this, Why this thread doesn't move to the File identified as the voluminous «Smoking Thread…» It's annoying with time and a little bit incidious for the smokers like me who browsed CC every day. If you want to get rid off the smoke, just choose a line who is entirely smoke free. Sorry to be so reactive but I am tired that the others choose the way it should be in my stead. Holacanada from Quebec City Edited September 27, 2016 by holacanada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiewalker Posted September 27, 2016 #4230 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Seriously? Nice Trump like comeback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandij Posted September 27, 2016 #4231 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I have never been bothered with smoke, I have noticed it but don't let it affect my cruise. There are many other lines people can go on who are so sensitive, there are no other lines for smokers so it seems unfair to me that they get beaten up over this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karoo Posted September 27, 2016 #4232 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I think you mean you chose not to use your verandah. I can't believe you were not allowed on your verandah by HAL, it was your own choice. Sad that an Aussie made such a rude comment. I apologise! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAD2005 Posted September 27, 2016 #4233 Share Posted September 27, 2016 In all of our cruises with HAL, we've only been bothered by balcony smoking once, and that was late at night. What really bugs us is the inconsiderate slobs who toss their cigarette butts in the water drain right at the edge of the balcony floor. It is designed to allow wave and rainwater to drain off of your balcony. There's nothing more disgusting than seeing someone's butts floating by your balcony in the water drain. They at least have the common sense not to throw the butts overboard, so the lazy bums throw then into the drain and let the rains wash them away. I've seen whole packs of cigarettes floating by, where the morons forget that it gets quite breezy out there once underway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiewalker Posted September 27, 2016 #4234 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Sad that an Aussie made such a rude comment. I apologise! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Could you please explain how my comment was rude. I was merely pointing out that the poster could have used their verandah but it was their choice not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highway180 Posted September 27, 2016 #4235 Share Posted September 27, 2016 The answer is simple. Sail Celebrity as they do not tolerate smoking in MOST areas of the ship. If you dislike smoke you shouldn't have to tolerate it from your neighbors, period. And that is especially true for people with health issues and allergies as my DW has. If you don't mind it, by all means , sail away wherever! Just my humble opinion Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted September 27, 2016 #4236 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Sad that an Aussie made such a rude comment. I apologise! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Aussie Aussie Aussie! :D Have always enjoyed visiting your country and especially our time in cafes/pubs with Aussies. Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flafun888 Posted September 27, 2016 #4237 Share Posted September 27, 2016 "Celebrity has eliminated all indoor smoking, balcony smoking and casino smoking. It's worked for them and they are more popular than ever." Unfortunately, even though Celebrity doesn't allow balcony smoking, I still had to deal with it throughout last year's cruise...every day around late afternoon/early evening, I could smell smoke sitting on my balcony. I never could find the person smoking even though I tried to look around. Was frustrating, as I specifically chose X for that reason vs any other line. Not much they can do if I can't demonstrate who was the smoker. Maybe I'll have more luck next year :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted September 27, 2016 #4238 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I thought smoking discussions were now on the smoking thread. But,since this one is going one,I'm going to throw out a different scenario that WAS posted on the smoking thread. Yes, on our Pearls of the Pacific cruise, I was one of those "evil" people that like to have a cig after dinner. Some of my roll call member didn't even know I smoked so that tells you how much. In any case, smoke bothered my next door neighbours' wife (whom I had already introduced myself to.) So, we set up a simple arrangement. I would check to see if they were out but to be safe, I would just turn on my light when I had to have my after dinner smoke and then turn it off. Then they were safe ;) We became great friends on that cruise and I still remember the kind email I got after saying "you made a controversial issue non existent - thank you" It's easy - just talk. Most "evil" people while entitled to use their balcony as they see fit are fair and want to make sure that everyone can enjoy their balcony mutually. Just my two cents (which isn't worth much in Canada) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie68 Posted September 27, 2016 #4239 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Sad that an Aussie made such a rude comment. I apologise! Sent from my iPhone using Forums The poster was obviously trying to make friends[emoji6] Sent from my SM-G386W using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ne1travel Posted September 28, 2016 #4240 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I do appreciate all of your responses. I am glad they haven't removed this yet as it was very helpful to me. I have nothing against smokers and did not mean for anyone to be offended. We found a nice HAL Panama cruise from FT Lauderdale to San Diego where our daughter lives and could meet up there. We both are bothered by smoke however and are sensitive to it. Just from the responses, we most likely stay with Princess and cruise it to LA instead. Thanks again, happy cruising. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennicott Posted September 28, 2016 #4241 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Doesn't appear to be much new of importance, as of late, regarding the HAL balcony smoking issue, other than it is becoming quite evident that more and more loyalists from other lines are being attracted to HAL due their lenient smoking policy. We had about 250 days sailing on HAL. A lot of folk post that they haven't had a problem with smokers on HAL, but how recent has been there last cruise and experience? They might forget the smoking problem with HAL didn't evolve until most of the rest of the majors eliminated balcony smoking. So, the fact they had not witnessed much of a problem 2.5 years or more ago means nothing, either had we. When this thread originally began there was a lot of uncertainty as to whether or not, or if so when, HAL would also eliminate balcony smoking. Then there was the question as to whether or not smokers from other lines would in significant numbers switch over to HAL. Back then some commented on doubts as to there being any flood of new guests to HAL just because of the smoking issue, since there was little evidence of smokers changing allegiances at that early stage of policy changes.-----Conversely, how many faithful were going to abandon booking with HAL due to their "only game in town" lenient balcony smoking policy. It appears to me two questions have for the most part been proven out by the myriad of posts herein. 1. It looks like HAL is in no hurry to significantly alter smoking procedures on its ships. 2. There is considerable evidence that quite a number of smokers have switched to HAL. Before this all began demographics suggested that approximately 8% of HAL's guests were smokers. It has got to be considerably more than that today." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old As Dirt Mom Posted September 28, 2016 #4242 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Got off Maasdam two weeks ago, had a Neptune Suite on the 14-day Alaska itinerary, and spent a great deal of time on our large verandah. Occasionally caught a whiff of cigarette smoke from somewhere, not sure which verandah or direction it might be coming from. It was never prolonged. Most smokers congregated on the port side of aft Seaview bar which was designated smoking area, and were respectful of smoking restrictions. Noticed a few officers smoking back there, too. Since we never visit the casino, can't tell you how it was there, other than we didn't notice an overwhelming smell of smoke. Had a great cruise, smoking was not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare puppycanducruise Posted September 28, 2016 #4243 Share Posted September 28, 2016 We're just back from 12 days on the Eurodam - Mediterranean cruise. We noticed a bit of smoke smell on the balcony a couple of times, not a problem for us. We didn't frequent the casino so I can't report on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxmantoo Posted September 30, 2016 #4244 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Finally !!! :D http://f.e.hollandamerica.com/i/41/1...ing_Policy.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted September 30, 2016 #4245 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Finally !!! :D http://f.e.hollandamerica.com/i/41/1...ing_Policy.pdf It's been over 2 years since this thread was started and FINALLY we have good news from HAL. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishful thinking Posted September 30, 2016 #4246 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Had a feeling this would happen starting January 2017. Booked the Rotterdam for next March whilst on board Oosterdam March this year. So happy I decided to go with an oceanview with this in mind. Has saved me $$$$$$$$$$$$'s. Now finally, this thread can be put to bed. R.I.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVgirl Posted September 30, 2016 #4247 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Sorry, I can't open the link. What does it say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ken the cruiser Posted September 30, 2016 #4248 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Finally !!! :D http://f.e.hollandamerica.com/i/41/1...ing_Policy.pdf I tried this link and it was temporarily unavailable. Then I went to the HAL FAQ section and their smoking policy on verandas is still the same as it has always been. What exactly did your referenced link say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxmantoo Posted September 30, 2016 #4249 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Sorry ... Corrected link http://f.e.hollandamerica.com/i/41/1010169812/Smoking_Policy.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted September 30, 2016 #4250 Share Posted September 30, 2016 About time :). But we are somewhat surprised about the timing and relatively fast implementation. We know of several World Cruise regulars who book suites so that they have a decent smoking venue (on their balcony). One wonders if anyone will cancel. Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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