Should Carnival bring back tablecloths each night?

[manmachine]

Well since this poll was posted John Heald has said the decision has been made: not going back to tablecloths except on elegant night. The poll here shows that while more of us voted YES to have them every night, the majority of this poll were either Don't Care or NO.

 

Surprises me. But it is what it is.

 

seemed the response to Heald's continual questions about this subject were WAY tilted the other way...but of course they never announce what their counts were and with thousands of replies, hard for anyone else to do so.

 

In any case: So let it be written. So shall it be done.

[KatieCharlotte]

Well since this poll was posted John Heald has said the decision has been made: not going back to tablecloths except on elegant night. The poll here shows that while more of us voted YES to have them every night, the majority of this poll were either Don't Care or NO.

 

Surprises me. But it is what it is.

 

seemed the response to Heald's continual questions about this subject were WAY tilted the other way...but of course they never announce what their counts were and with thousands of replies, hard for anyone else to do so.

 

In any case: So let it be written. So shall it be done.

 

To be fair, seasoned cruisers who are answering polls on his FB page and here are going to lean more toward traditional aspects of cruising, while newbie cruisers may lean heavily toward modern trends.

 

I honestly can't tell from that Vista photo what the tables look like up close. The quality of the tabletops will make a big difference in whether it looks like a cafeteria/modern McD or like a NY restaurant. Either way, I prefer the old-fashioned tablecloths but care most about the food and service.

[meatloafsfan]

Sorry. I like the tables with no table clothes better. Looks like a chic NewYork restaurant.

 

 

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I agree.

 

Those tables with the tablecloths look cheesy. Like those Chinese buffets you go to that are decorated straight out of the 1980's with all of that pink pastel and black.

[MCFTJCH2V]

I just saw a pic of the Vista dining room, which the green lights, and it looks like a Vegas casino.

[johnny75]

Why on American Table Service do we get only one fork?

 

And no teaspoon?

 

You have to ask the waiter for a clean fork between each coarse.

 

Does this make any sense?

 

Land based restaurant of any decent quality give us two forks.

[jimbo5544]

I just saw a pic of the Vista dining room, which the green lights, and it looks like a Vegas casino.

 

JH had actually posted three different lighting colors asking for opinions. The green was the last shown.

[firemanbobswife]

Why on American Table Service do we get only one fork?

 

 

 

And no teaspoon?

 

 

 

You have to ask the waiter for a clean fork between each coarse.

 

 

 

Does this make any sense?

 

 

 

Land based restaurant of any decent quality give us two forks.

 

 

You only got one fork before too. I'm willing to bet that a good chunk of the guests (the ones that don't know how to dress decently for dinner as per my previous post) wouldn't even know which one to use first and probably would think they made a mistake setting the table.

[jimbo5544]

You only got one fork before too. I'm willing to bet that a good chunk of the guests (the ones that don't know how to dress decently for dinner as per my previous post) wouldn't even know which one to use first and probably would think they made a mistake setting the table.

 

I would bet you are correct.

[declansdad]

Why on American Table Service do we get only one fork?

 

And no teaspoon?

 

You have to ask the waiter for a clean fork between each coarse.

 

Does this make any sense?

 

Land based restaurant of any decent quality give us two forks.

 

We didn't ask, they brought a new fork before each course on our last cruise.

[TerReuv]

Why on American Table Service do we get only one fork?

 

And no teaspoon?

 

You have to ask the waiter for a clean fork between each coarse.

 

Does this make any sense?

 

Land based restaurant of any decent quality give us two forks.

 

If you must have a new fork for each course, then leave it on your plate and they will take it away and bring you a new one for the next course. Easy Peasy.

 

I also bet many folks would have no idea what to use each utensil for if they got the whole set for a formal place setting. In fact, unless you are one of us older farts two forks would confuse the heck out of you. :D Always makes me think about Pretty Woman when she learned the silverware.

[KevInPitt]

Is it just me confused by the dichotomy of the majority clamoring for a more informal dress code yet expecting a formal dining experience?

 

To me it would be like going to McDonalds in a tuxedo or showing up at Le Cirque dressed like you are about to mow the lawn.

 

Make up your minds, people!

[firemanbobswife]

If you must have a new fork for each course, then leave it on your plate and they will take it away and bring you a new one for the next course. Easy Peasy.

 

 

 

I also bet many folks would have no idea what to use each utensil for if they got the whole set for a formal place setting. In fact, unless you are one of us older farts two forks would confuse the heck out of you. :D Always makes me think about Pretty Woman when she learned the silverware.

 

 

 

Is it just me confused by the dichotomy of the majority clamoring for a more informal dress code yet expecting a formal dining experience?

 

 

 

To me it would be like going to McDonalds in a tuxedo or showing up at Le Cirque dressed like you are about to mow the lawn.

 

 

 

Make up your minds, people!

 

 

My thoughts exactly.

[Sweet Dutch Girl]

You only got one fork before too. I'm willing to bet that a good chunk of the guests (the ones that don't know how to dress decently for dinner as per my previous post) wouldn't even know which one to use first and probably would think they made a mistake setting the table.

 

You do realize your post is condescending, judgmental, irritating (to me, at least) fairly hoity toity, class-ist, and I could go on and on. I don't think people are as "dumb" or ignorant as you seem to think and just because you may have fallen into the trap of assuming that Emily Post was the savior of etiquette, thousands of people are raised very well without ever having to act like puppets of a system that has been archaic for years and years.

 

If someone wants to be surrounded by a butter knife, salad fork, appetizer fork, fish fork, teaspoon, soup spoon, ice tea spoon, dessert spoon and fork, straight blade steak knife, serrated steak knife, grape fruit spoon all they need to do is ask. Why should the rest of us need to be surrounded with superfluous utensils we have no need for...and that's a choice not a lack of class.

[firemanbobswife]

You do realize your post is condescending, judgmental, irritating (to me, at least) fairly hoity toity, class-ist, and I could go on and on. I don't think people are as "dumb" or ignorant as you seem to think and just because you may have fallen into the trap of assuming that Emily Post was the savior of etiquette, thousands of people are raised very well without ever having to act like puppets of a system that has been archaic for years and years.

 

 

 

If someone wants to be surrounded by a butter knife, salad fork, appetizer fork, fish fork, teaspoon, soup spoon, ice tea spoon, dessert spoon and fork, straight blade steak knife, serrated steak knife, grape fruit spoon all they need to do is ask. Why should the rest of us need to be surrounded with superfluous utensils we have no need for...and that's a choice not a lack of class.

 

 

Well apparently I'm not the only one who feels this way. The point is Carnival has become casual. People don't want to dress up and they whine and complain about it. So Carnival listened. They got their relaxed dress code, and now a more casual dining experience sans tablecloths.

 

I am FAR from hoity toity and am about as low maintenance as they come. I am not old by any means, and was not brought up with the likes of Emily Post. I was, however, taught manners and how to act and dress appropriately at dinner. Which sadly seems to be going by the wayside lately.

 

It's too bad that you take personal offense to my post. I did not say everyone that cruises Carnival is dumb. I was saying that a good portion of them wouldn't know what to do with the additional fork. So unless I singled you out, or you fall into that category, relax. It want meant to be any of those things you accused me of.

[firemanbobswife]

^^* wasn't *^^ in the last sentence. I caught it too late to edit.

[bobsfamily]

It wasn't meant to be any of those things you accused me of.

You didn't and you aren't... I put SDG on my ignore list a long time ago...

Edited May 6, 2016 by bobsfamily

[firemanbobswife]

You didn't and you aren't... I put SDG on my ignore list a long time ago...

 

 

Thank you. I swear some people are always looking for a fight. And for some reason they like to single me out.

[StolidCruiser]

Thank you. I swear some people are always looking for a fight. And for some reason they like to single me out.

 

Having a strong reasonable opinion makes one a target to be zeroed in on. I personally may not agree with everything you say but I respect your opinion. If I were one to be unnecessarily confrontational, I would apologize if called on it.

[Jdfireman]

Why on American Table Service do we get only one fork?

 

And no teaspoon?

 

You have to ask the waiter for a clean fork between each coarse.

 

Does this make any sense?

 

Land based restaurant of any decent quality give us two forks.

 

you use multi forks at home between coarse

[firemanbobswife]

Having a strong reasonable opinion makes one a target to be zeroed in on. I personally may not agree with everything you say but I respect your opinion. If I were one to be unnecessarily confrontational, I would apologize if called on it.

 

 

I totally agree. Everyone has their opinions and yes, things can get a little testy at times particularly on a few "hot" subjects. While not everyone will agree all the time, I think the more mature (personality wise, not necessarily age) folks understand and don't take everything as being directed at them personally.

 

I admit that I do have strong opinions on certain things and it can rub the sensitive people the wrong way. That is never my intent. But I do call it like I see it. I am not Politically Correct, I don't sugar coat anything, or beat around the bush. Some may find that harsh. I call that life. Sometimes life isn't pretty and it certainly isn't fair. If I am wrong about something I will apologize as well.

 

So thank you for those that support me. I have learned a lot on here and hope to continue to help others. I think the majority of us would have a blast if we ever cruised together. Different opinions and all!

Edited May 6, 2016 by firemanbobswife

[bobsfamily]

you use multi forks at home between coarse

I have used different forks for different courses at home, not often but it does happen... mostly at Thanksgiving/Christmas/Mother's Day... Oh heck! This weekend is Mother's Day!

[teknoge3k]

We use 1 fork, 1 spoon, and 1 knife, per meal. No need to dirty up multiple dishes for the same meal.

[Dbroncos]

The real issue here is how Carnival changed the way order drinks now. It used to be that the Bar waiter was there waiting for you at your table. It was easy o get a drink. Now the head waiter needs to take your drink order. This takes longer and usually there is an issue with the wrong drink ordered or not even ordered at all. Just put coasters on the table and the table cloth issue is resolved.

[Computer Nerd]

You do realize your post is condescending, judgmental, irritating (to me, at least) fairly hoity toity, class-ist, and I could go on and on. I don't think people are as "dumb" or ignorant as you seem to think and just because you may have fallen into the trap of assuming that Emily Post was the savior of etiquette, thousands of people are raised very well without ever having to act like puppets of a system that has been archaic for years and years.

 

If someone wants to be surrounded by a butter knife, salad fork, appetizer fork, fish fork, teaspoon, soup spoon, ice tea spoon, dessert spoon and fork, straight blade steak knife, serrated steak knife, grape fruit spoon all they need to do is ask. Why should the rest of us need to be surrounded with superfluous utensils we have no need for...and that's a choice not a lack of class.

 

you forgot elitist..... :D ........but then again, i agree with firemanbob'swife. most people probably don't know which fork to use for what in a multi-fork setting.

[declansdad]

The real issue here is how Carnival changed the way order drinks now. It used to be that the Bar waiter was there waiting for you at your table. It was easy o get a drink. Now the head waiter needs to take your drink order. This takes longer and usually there is an issue with the wrong drink ordered or not even ordered at all. Just put coasters on the table and the table cloth issue is resolved.

 

 

Never happened at our table. There was a bartender waiting on our tables and if he was busy, then the head waiter or assistant took the order.