Rare Shelly97060 Posted July 20, 2016 #101 Share Posted July 20, 2016 If their intent is to save paper...how about fewer sales brochures. We usually get 3-4 pieces of paper daily that go immediately into the trash can. Don't even look at them.:cool: I couldn't agree more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldsc Posted July 20, 2016 #102 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) Does this mean that on port days they also won’t deliver their advertising brochures to the cabins? I am sure that you get multiple advertising stuff every day of the cruise. Just not the Patter. What I would do just to get back at them is when I went to wherever they had the things, I would take 6 or 7 of them, rip the extras up, walk to the desk and hand the ripped ones to the person at the desk and tell them that this is what I think of their new policy and of the company. My only worry about this response is that if they only print a limited number of the thing, some people who want them might not get them. DON Edited July 20, 2016 by donaldsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MawganTr Posted July 20, 2016 #103 Share Posted July 20, 2016 This is not a good idea at all. One of the pleasures of cruising is the chance not to be staring at a screen with a smart phone glued to ones hand. Cut the junk. Keep the patter. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyy7 Posted July 20, 2016 #104 Share Posted July 20, 2016 If this trial is still happening next month then I'll be down at the desk daily with everyone else.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted July 20, 2016 #105 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) First it was Butter-gate and now it's Patter-gate...wonder what will be the next cutback? Any guesses? ;) Maybe to conserve water we'll be back to the original term...Water-gate! :p Edited July 20, 2016 by Astro Flyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triship Posted July 20, 2016 #106 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Yes keep the Patter, our phones also go in the safe once on board. If people have to go now to customer services to collect them when so many people have to go there for other things as well, the ques could be longer then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo222 Posted July 20, 2016 #107 Share Posted July 20, 2016 The question is whether we want to Escape Completely, which includes escape from carrying around a smart phone. But involves checking and following a printed schedule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo222 Posted July 20, 2016 #108 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) I would take 6 or 7 of them, rip the extras up, walk to the desk and hand the ripped ones to the person at the desk and tell them that this is what I think of their new policy -- deleted -- Edited July 20, 2016 by pablo222 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo222 Posted July 20, 2016 #109 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) Once again, a complete inability to grasp that your reality isn't universal. Um ... this is a poll. It certainly seems like the place to express an opinion, even one contrary to yours. If you notice at the top of the thread, there are a set of radio buttons: Poll Options -- what days would you like the Patter to be delivered to stateroom? -- All Days -- Only on Sea Days -- who cares, i never read it! I realize the polls here should be: -- people who agree with me Edited July 20, 2016 by pablo222 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterty Posted July 20, 2016 #110 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) Here is my 2 cents. Its not a leap to imagine a paperless cruise industry. One with no print shops on board. Photos you select arrive at home before you do. They would love to manage only one print shop for the entire line(s) from land. Or possibly only offer only digital files at the same price and make you take them to your favorite print shop yourself. A second or third generation princess@sea system that forces you to wade through the ads ad nauseum. One after another drilling your way down though each ad to get to a daily schedule. Imagine no paper information of any kind in your room. Everything can be found on your in cabin monitor or the monitors provided at guest services. Complementary electronic devices available for those who didn't bring their own (deposit required) will also be available to you. Guest services of course is ready to assist you navigate this ad filled popup box maze of spa deals and jewelry specials when all you want is to know what time trivia begins. No doubt about it. It is coming. You may not like it, or you may be ready to embrace it. Understand if electronic information is not your cup of tea rest assured the next generation of cruisers are standing by to take the cruise(s) you are unwilling to. I am a techie gadget junkie, I love the idea of ditching all the paper on the entire ship to and replace it with electronics. What I am not good at is determining if it is cheaper to plug in 5,000 devices at night or print 5000 patters? We all know any decision they make actually has nothing to do with the environment. Its always about the $$. My gut tells me once they can get the required information to each pax for less than they do now that will in short order become the standarized medium fleetwide. Jm2c Edited July 20, 2016 by masterty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted July 20, 2016 #111 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Yes keep the Patter, our phones also go in the safe once on board. If people have to go now to customer services to collect them when so many people have to go there for other things as well, the ques could be longer then. Not if they're in a holder off to the side. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted July 20, 2016 #112 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) ......... If you notice at the top of the thread, there are a set of radio buttons: ............ Unfortunately, the polls don't show up on the mobile site. (Nor is the multi-quote working but that's not part of this thread) Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Edited July 20, 2016 by SadieN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planning is Half the Fun Posted July 20, 2016 #113 Share Posted July 20, 2016 My last few cruises there was just a rack of extra schedules near the customer service desk. If Princess truly wants to provide Patters only to those who need them, they could put racks in several places throughout the ship (like outside the dining rooms, theaters, or elevators) and put them out the night before at the same time as they currently distribute them. If I can still get it the night before, if I don't have to wait in line, and if I don't have to go super far to get one, then I don't mind if ALL the paper, including Patters is available that way. Theoretically, princess at sea should provide an opportunity to expand the patter with actual descriptions and details, even pictures, of events. I also could do away with the ads and the crew greeting. Just make a channel on the tv for a slide show with this information and perhaps have a few extra tvs playing the ads around in places where people have to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare phonejock Posted July 20, 2016 #114 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Personally, I am a big fan of "unplugging" while I am on vacation. As everyone said... Patters every day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpcello Posted July 20, 2016 #115 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I'll be on the Regal in October. This is our first Princess cruise and I don't find this very customer friendly at all. On other cruises (RCL, X and NCL), there is usually at rack at the customer service desk - usually with multiple languages (including English). Does Princess do this? I'm fine with grabbing my own copy, but to only provide it on sea days is crazy. Not everyone leaves the ship on port days. Our cruise has only one sea day and it's the last day. Considering this is our first Princess cruise I'm not familiar with many of the classic "Princess" activities. Very bad idea indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle_and_hawk Posted July 20, 2016 #116 Share Posted July 20, 2016 We still want the patters everyday as I don't want to carry my iPhone/iPad every where I go. My career requires me to be tethered to my phone 24/7 and my bride knows, that a cruise is about the only place I can get away from it. If my employer didn't provide them, I would have a pre-paid phone to use as needed. not sent from my iPhone using some app........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted July 20, 2016 #117 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Not only that, but I do not wish to put my phone into airplane mode which prevents receiving calls and texts. I'll do as my provider says and turn off data to avoid extensive bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamomo Posted July 20, 2016 #118 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I certainly hope this really is just a trial, and not the beginning of a fleet-wide roll out. I am with everyone who favors continued daily delivery of the printed Patter to cabins each evening, for the next day. It's how I plan my days, and is my source of referrence throughout each day. I am NOT into carrying a device (phone, tablet, etc) around all day so I can look at that version of the Patter. For the most part, my devices stay in my cabin, and are used there. Princess took away the printed TV guide a few years ago, and forced us to use the onscreen guide, which is virtually useless. A lot of us really want to printed version back. It wasn't perfect, but it was way better than the onscreen one. I really hope the printed Patter will NOT disappear, nor it's nightly delivery to our cabins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBoat Posted July 20, 2016 #119 Share Posted July 20, 2016 WE WANT PATTERS...WE WANT PATTERS...WE WANT PATTERS Get it princess ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamomo Posted July 20, 2016 #120 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Here is my 2 cents. Its not a leap to imagine a paperless cruise industry. One with no print shops on board. Photos you select arrive at home before you do. They would love to manage only one print shop for the entire line(s) from land. Or possibly only offer only digital files at the same price and make you take them to your favorite print shop yourself. A second or third generation princess@sea system that forces you to wade through the ads ad nauseum. One after another drilling your way down though each ad to get to a daily schedule. Imagine no paper information of any kind in your room. Everything can be found on your in cabin monitor or the monitors provided at guest services. Complementary electronic devices available for those who didn't bring their own (deposit required) will also be available to you. Guest services of course is ready to assist you navigate this ad filled popup box maze of spa deals and jewelry specials when all you want is to know what time trivia begins. No doubt about it. It is coming. You may not like it, or you may be ready to embrace it. Understand if electronic information is not your cup of tea rest assured the next generation of cruisers are standing by to take the cruise(s) you are unwilling to. I am a techie gadget junkie, I love the idea of ditching all the paper on the entire ship to and replace it with electronics. What I am not good at is determining if it is cheaper to plug in 5,000 devices at night or print 5000 patters? We all know any decision they make actually has nothing to do with the environment. Its always about the $$. My gut tells me once they can get the required information to each pax for less than they do now that will in short order become the standarized medium fleetwide. Jm2c Sorry, techie person, but if there was a thumbs DOWN icon, that's what I would give your post. You need to understand and recognize that there is still a segment of the population that is not of the same mind as you, and don't want to be. We only have a cell phone to carry in case of an emergency, not for babbling constantly no matter where we are, or what we're doing (ie. driving). We use our tablets and computers to email with friends and family, read and post on Cruise Critic, get on FB, play games etc, Our lives don't revolve around today's electronic gadgetry, and we don't want to be forced to get that involved with those gadgets. Especially when we're on vacation!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Te Aroha Posted July 20, 2016 #121 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I was upset when they stopped the "Log of the Cruise" as I always kept them but now the Patters are going the same way. Come on Princess a little less penny pinching please.:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfb4cruzing Posted July 20, 2016 #122 Share Posted July 20, 2016 We may have to enlighten Princess by going to the Guest Services Desk, picking up copies of the Patters and leaving all the Sales Ads. Seeing is believing. But every time a "test" is conducted, we know it's a pre lim to a change. Happy Sailing. PS: We save all of ours and place in travel file of the trip at home. Then when friends inquire what is available on a Princess cruise, we share the Patters with them and let them see for themselves. They are a valuable sales tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAlbany Posted July 20, 2016 #123 Share Posted July 20, 2016 :rolleyes: Come to think of it, I will probably ask DH to pick up a Patter as well, so we both have a copy. Wouldn't it be something if it turns out this 'test' resulted in MORE Patters being printed? LOL. I think we have a movement starting!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridalover5623 Posted July 20, 2016 #124 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I'm not risking damage & possible loss of my $500 phone to just view a copy of the Patter. It's much more convenient to carry 1 sheet of paper in my pocket so I guess I'll just have to make a trip to the PSD along with 400 or 500 other people to get one on port days. We seldom get off the ship for very long on port days and although there's not much in those Patters it still provides a ship schedule for movies & other limited events. I sure hope they have a distribution rack & not make us stand in line waiting to ask for two copies. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potstech Posted July 20, 2016 #125 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Instead of going to the Passenger Services desk to btain a Patter people should go there and ask about individual activities like " What activity is at 2:00 in the Piazza? When is the next trivia game? Where is the next trivia game? Can yu explain the procedures for tendering? Questions that would normally be answered in the Patter. Also use the phone for the same requests. The desk would become totally useless and prove the continuing need for the Patter. The at sea app has been basically useless since its inception and any hopes for its improvement are wasted as they could have done it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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