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Cleaning my cabin twice a day is nice but absolutely not necessary for me. In fact I appreciate the slight feeling of "coming home" to a bed that looks exactly like how I left it in the morning. And I've seen the towel animals before.

 

So my last cruise, 14 days, I put out the privacy card and left it there except for 2 days to get new towels and fresh sheets.

 

Other guests hardly ever used the card, so I was wondering if the steward would appreciate not having to clean my room every day or if they'd think I was setting up a meth lab and needed to report this strange behaviour.

 

I was thinking that if you're in a large group, you could organize a "privacy day", where everyone says they don't need cleaning and the room stewards get a day off.

 

BTW, I did tip like I normally would.

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I am not sure why you are concerned with someone doing their job. Doubt they would give this much thought. If they aren't cleaning your room, they're doing other work. Maybe they'd rather be cleaning your cabin.

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I mean....I guess they would appreciate it. At my job if if people don't want my services I....guess that's "better"? Obviously I don't mind it if they do want something I'm expected to provide, but the less work I have to do the better?

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I doubt if they care whether you don't want your cabin freshened up or not every day.

And whether a group of you do the same thing, there is no way they would get a day off. They have many cabins to do and if by some chance they don't have a lot of cabins to do, their supervisor will assign them to do something else to do.

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I am not sure why you are concerned with someone doing their job. Doubt they would give this much thought. If they aren't cleaning your room, they're doing other work. Maybe they'd rather be cleaning your cabin.

 

10 month contracts, 7 days a week, 14 hours a day. I think that's a tough job.

 

I don't think they'd be put on other tasks.

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Why stop at your group. Get the whole ship to have rotating privacy days. Get all the ships to have rotating privacy days. The cruise lines would love it :hearteyes:. They could fire a whole bunch of stewards.

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10 month contracts, 7 days a week, 14 hours a day. I think that's a tough job.

 

I don't think they'd be put on other tasks.

Do you worry about people in your every day life with "tough jobs?" Leave a good review and tip well if you like the job they did. Not cleaning your cabin makes very little difference. They don't get to sit around if you have your privacy sign up.

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Cleaning my cabin twice a day is nice but absolutely not necessary for me. In fact I appreciate the slight feeling of "coming home" to a bed that looks exactly like how I left it in the morning. And I've seen the towel animals before.

 

So my last cruise, 14 days, I put out the privacy card and left it there except for 2 days to get new towels and fresh sheets.

 

Other guests hardly ever used the card, so I was wondering if the steward would appreciate not having to clean my room every day or if they'd think I was setting up a meth lab and needed to report this strange behaviour.

 

I was thinking that if you're in a large group, you could organize a "privacy day", where everyone says they don't need cleaning and the room stewards get a day off.

 

BTW, I did tip like I normally would.

 

Probably not "strange" behavior. But a bit unusual.

 

It's my understanding that part of the room steward being able to access the room is sort of a "well check" for the room. Making sure there's nothing bad going on (like trashing the room, or any illegal activities).

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I know some people who will let the steward/stewardess know on certain port days that the don't have to clean their room so they might have more time to get off the ship in port. Like most things that is a personal decision.

 

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We had a discussion with our steward that gave expectations.... ours are minimal. We did not need or want our room cleaned when we were on the ship... trash picked up, replace towels if they were on the floor, bed made, one towel animal, ice was it. We gave him a choice of when to refresh the room.

 

If you communicate your needs, makes it easier for him. He does not want to miss a room. If you tell him in advance that you will be putting the privacy tag on the door and IF you want him to do something you will put the "make up" tag, he will be able to be more effective in getting his work done. Our last cruise he was waiting til (I forget the time) to insure that our neighbor did not take his "Privacy" tag off the door indicating wanting service, before he could leave for his few hours at the port.

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Of course a room steward would appreciate it. Less rooms to do = more time off. They definitely would not be assigned other tasks. If it is a port day it would afford more time outside (or more time to sleep) And yes, I do think about people with difficult jobs, whether on a ship or daily life. I guess I am just a sucker for common courtesy and compassion. Alas, I am a snowflake.

 

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"Compassion?" Compassion and common courtesy aren't the same thing.

These types of threads are not about compassion. It seems as if it's more like feeling sorry for someone because you consider their employment a "demeaning job."

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"Compassion?"

These types of threads are not about compassion. It seems as if it's more like feeling sorry for someone because you feel they have what you consider a "demeaning job."

 

How is it feeling sorry for someone to not need or want them to come into your room 2x a day to make the bed, throw out the trash, make towel animals and wipe down surfaces? I don't feel sorry for the stewards, I just think obviously the less work they have the more appreciative they'll be, in most cases. Of course there are probably instances where someone prefers to be "busy" rather than have down time, and then they wouldn't appreciate the skipping.

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Well, I can only offer comments about the two lines that I've cruised with -- RC & X. But, on both of those lines, the Head of the Housekeeping department makes routine inspections of the cabin. Having their boss walk into a messy, uncleaned cabin would put the room steward in an awkward spot -- trying to explain that there was no opportunity to clean the room. :(

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Well, I can only offer comments about the two lines that I've cruised with -- RC & X. But, on both of those lines, the Head of the Housekeeping department makes routine inspections of the cabin. Having their boss walk into a messy, uncleaned cabin would put the room steward in an awkward spot -- trying to explain that there was no opportunity to clean the room. :(

 

If you're in the room when the inspection happens can't you say you re-messed up the room or asked for it not to be cleaned and appreciate the steward respecting your wishes? If you are not in the room how would the inspector decide that the steward simply didn't do their job and not that that either of the previously offered reasons for a not clean room are why it's not clean?

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Do you worry about people in your every day life with "tough jobs?"

 

I don't exactly "worry", but I certainly have a great deal of respect for people like nurses, firefighters, etc. While I know working on a ship is a perfect alternative, and people in the Philippines line up to get the job, I still think it must be hard to work those hours, on a ship far away from their families, surrounded by passengers who happily pay more for a cruise than crewmembers make in a year.

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Well, I can only offer comments about the two lines that I've cruised with -- RC & X. But, on both of those lines, the Head of the Housekeeping department makes routine inspections of the cabin. Having their boss walk into a messy, uncleaned cabin would put the room steward in an awkward spot -- trying to explain that there was no opportunity to clean the room. :(

 

Exactly what I was going to post and you beat me to it. :D Cabin stewards report to their superiors and if s/he hasn't been into a cabin for whatever reason, it is looked into. This brings the passenger into the discussion and it's all a big "situation".

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I mean....I guess they would appreciate it. At my job if if people don't want my services I....guess that's "better"? Obviously I don't mind it if they do want something I'm expected to provide, but the less work I have to do the better?

 

Passenger cabins are inspect ed regularly by head housekeeper and hotel directors to b e suure the stewards are doigf a good job . For the general cleanliness of the whole ship, they will let a cabin only go just a reasonable length of time without a good c leaning. If you require the privac y and do not want them enteeing to clean, I wold suggest you have a conversation about that.. The stewards must follow his/her job instructions.

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"Compassion?" Compassion and common courtesy aren't the same thing.

These types of threads are not about compassion. It seems as if it's more like feeling sorry for someone because you consider their employment a "demeaning job."

Hence "and." Basic 3rd grade grammar. And you know exactly squat about my thoughts/motivations. None of which are within miles of your assumptions.

 

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Cleaning my cabin twice a day is nice but absolutely not necessary for me. In fact I appreciate the slight feeling of "coming home" to a bed that looks exactly like how I left it in the morning. And I've seen the towel animals before.

 

So my last cruise, 14 days, I put out the privacy card and left it there except for 2 days to get new towels and fresh sheets ......

 

BTW, I did tip like I normally would.

 

You need to talk to your steward since if the privacy card is not removed for several days he'll have to tell someone in authority who can find out if there's a problem.

 

Also the steward would be checking several times a day to see if your room needs servicing or if the privacy card is still there. So, communicate your wishes to your steward.

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If you're in the room when the inspection happens can't you say you re-messed up the room or asked for it not to be cleaned and appreciate the steward respecting your wishes? If you are not in the room how would the inspector decide that the steward simply didn't do their job and not that that either of the previously offered reasons for a not clean room are why it's not clean?

 

There is a big difference from 'messed u p' to dirty. I f you left a towel on the vanity, is messy. If your shower has not been cleaned, that is dirty but most of us know the differance as I would guess you also do. Don't you want your toillet cleaned daily? N o Ship will perrmit a cab in to get dirty. They will ask you to vacate, go to the pool, get lunch etc , so they can clean. IMO, they will not 'respect your wishes' as you put it to not have your cabin cleaned. You could be creating a major headache for your steward. In youur efforts feeling sorry for him/her, you c ould have made your cabin a problem for steward. I would guess that as soon as you prfmit him or her to clean, his superiors will keep checking to be sure your cabin is clean. Just let them do their work it is an honest days work and they have chosen to accept that work. Best we don't judge it, IMO Go with the flow.

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Cleaning my cabin twice a day is nice but absolutely not necessary for me. In fact I appreciate the slight feeling of "coming home" to a bed that looks exactly like how I left it in the morning...BTW, I did tip like I normally would.

 

From what you've told us this isn't really an issue of privacy but of keeping your cabin in your state of preference. No doubt that cabin stewards have a lot to do but by servicing the cabin twice each day they keep small problems from becoming large ones. And some do have a sense of pride in a job well done when it looks tidied up and as good as ready for a new passenger.

 

I'll take the contrary point and say just live with it for the week or so that you are on the ship. Let your steward do his or her job. You have the other 51 weeks of the year to come home to a bed just as you left it.

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No, they don't. The longer they must go between tidying up and spot cleaning, the longer it takes to clean the cabin on turnaround day or other days.

 

Saving them 10 minutes on Monday and Tuesday just means they are working an extra hour on Wednesday to catch up.

 

 

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You are just screwing up the system. The steward will keep coming back to see if you removed the door tag. He/she will be worried that something is wrong. Also, if the fridge has products in it, they will want to visit each day.

 

Lighten their load by not being high maintenance. We left the room for maybe an hour and it was serviced. Other times we've been out on the balcony and seems the morning service was 10 minutes or so. Not a big deal if the steward can keep up with his daily process.

 

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I have left a do not disturb card in the slot longer than my steward was happy with... 2 days. He left us a note to ask us if he could come in and clean! Oops!

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I know some people who will let the steward/stewardess know on certain port days that the don't have to clean their room so they might have more time to get off the ship in port. Like most things that is a personal decision.

 

Keith

 

 

 

Of course a room steward would appreciate it. Less rooms to do = more time off. They definitely would not be assigned other tasks. If it is a port day it would afford more time outside (or more time to sleep) And yes, I do think about people with difficult jobs, whether on a ship or daily life. I guess I am just a sucker for common courtesy and compassion. Alas, I am a snowflake.

 

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Port days for crew are scheduled far in advance. You may recall a steward informing you that so-and-so will be covering for them on a certain port day. Not cleaning your room won't change whether they can get off the ship or not.

 

They're also not going to be able to just go outside or take a nap during their scheduled shift, ones on the ship will be covering for those who are off. They can't just go to their cabin and take a nap in the middle of their day.

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I'd talk to the steward and let him know you don't want twice a day service. Often when we had our privacy card out and were late getting out of the room for dinner--we often eat quite late-- the steward would be kind of hovering or waiting to make up our room.

 

I had the feeling from talking to one that they were required to service rooms twice (I know some ships it is optional) unless told otherwise by the passenger and couldn't leave until all the rooms were done. So I think it would be courteous to let them know.

 

I'm sure it has happened, if rarely, that something was wrong in a room, such as illness, when the privacy card was out for long periods.

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I was ill one day on a crise while in Europe . I s sent my DH with our friends for the excuurrsion we all had arranged. I wanted to stay in the cabin all day. Stewaard knocked and asked if I wanted the cabin c leaned and I asked he do thebathrroom, leave the bbed alone and maybe a qiick vacuming. He smiled, agrreed, did that, asked if I wanted anyhthing and left . My DH and v friends, returned, checked on me and I asked my DH to get me some cold jiuce and something else I wanted. I tgold him I'd like if the steward would change the bed. On the way out of the room when I made him go to dinner, he spoke with steward, told him I askec if he would please change my bed for me. I dozed off and woke to find three stewardsqietly in my room holding my big HAL robe. Softly as could be, my oh so sweetsteward told me to not br afraif, he and his friends would take care of my cab in. he wrapped me inmy big HAL terryrobe and a blanke.t. I wnent to the chair, they had the bed done in vblink off any eye, changed the towels again and then I saw one had a slver pitcher of juice and chilled glasses. When my DH had mentioned he was getgtinng me jiuiice, they insisted ed they tgake care of that and sent him to dinner. They took such good care of me that night and my insistence thaat I knew my DH would be back in minutes to check on me, they said, good,,they wouldd be able to tell him I was well taken care of. :) Wow, did I ever want tottake that cfew home with me at the end of the cruise. AND that is why my DH and i sailed HAL all those dozzens of cruises............... it is ALL about the people of HAL.

Next morning, my steward was all smiles when he saw DH and me up, dresssed and off to breakfast. I dold him he made me 'all better.' :)

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They will and do work around ouur needs for our ab in. Of course this was some years ago when there was more ample stafffing.

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Port days for crew are scheduled far in advance. You may recall a steward informing you that so-and-so will be covering for them on a certain port day. Not cleaning your room won't change whether they can get off the ship or not.

 

They're also not going to be able to just go outside or take a nap during their scheduled shift, ones on the ship will be covering for those who are off. They can't just go to their cabin and take a nap in the middle of their day.

Not sure how many cruises you've been on or how many cruise lines but that is simply innacurate.

Only the duty steward has to cover during off periods. If the steward finishes early, their time is their own unless on duty, in training or a rare late meeting. That means go outside if a port day or nap on port or sea day. We've discussed this with dozens of stewards over the years trying to maximize their time. And to a one, they were appreciative as they were when we told them to skip the towel animals. Yes, maybe only a few minutes each day but very appreciated when you are working 70+ hours a week.

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Well, they're also appreciative of the trinkets they get and have stock answers to most questions... I'll take the published policies I've read over a crew-person being polite. I probably save them as much time by being neat instead of chitchating while they have work to do. But I'm sure they're quite happy with both of us as guests. A minute or two saved here and there does add up.

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"Compassion?" Compassion and common courtesy aren't the same thing.

These types of threads are not about compassion. It seems as if it's more like feeling sorry for someone because you consider their employment a "demeaning job."

I don't think these jobs are demeaning at all. I used to work in service myself when I was young and at school and before I hurt my back, and my mother-in-law has been a housekeeper till she retired this year at 66. However, I do believe these jobs are hard and physically taxing, so I think people who have to clean, say, 30 rooms in day, would appreciate not having to clean one or two of them.

 

OP, we always put the do not disturb sign on. If we need something cleaned, emptied, replaced or made up, we take the sign out and let the steward know. We definitely don't need turn down service at night, so we always put the sign up in the afternoon. We also don't need our kid's bunk bed made up every day.

We also don't cancel autotips even if we don't need the room cleaned every day.

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I know some people who will let the steward/stewardess know on certain port days that the don't have to clean their room so they might have more time to get off the ship in port. Like most things that is a personal decision.

 

Keith

 

 

I tried that on our Circumnavigation of Australia cruise, 34 days, day 18 was a big change over day about 800 departing and the same number joining. I tried to explain to our Steward that he need not do our cabin that day as I knew he would be busy, couldn't get him to understand he thought I was complaining about something, spoke to his supervisor and explained, my cabin still got done (that was Princess by the way but it was funny)

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No, they don't. The longer they must go between tidying up and spot cleaning, the longer it takes to clean the cabin on turnaround day or other days.

 

Saving them 10 minutes on Monday and Tuesday just means they are working an extra hour on Wednesday to catch up.

 

oh, please. The cabin we stayed at on Caribbean princess this year was not deep or spot cleaned in forever. We brought Lysol wipes and wiped everything (and I mean - every surface!), and all the wipes were simply black with dirt. And we are not even clean freaks, far from it.

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We had a discussion with our steward that gave expectations.... ours are minimal. We did not need or want our room cleaned when we were on the ship... trash picked up, replace towels if they were on the floor, bed made, one towel animal, ice was it. We gave him a choice of when to refresh the room.

 

If you communicate your needs, makes it easier for him. He does not want to miss a room. If you tell him in advance that you will be putting the privacy tag on the door and IF you want him to do something you will put the "make up" tag, he will be able to be more effective in getting his work done. Our last cruise he was waiting til (I forget the time) to insure that our neighbor did not take his "Privacy" tag off the door indicating wanting service, before he could leave for his few hours at the port.

 

Call me simplistic if you want, but on a cruise I just let the room attendant do what he is paid to do and on a schedule that works for him. I don't request special services, special times to clean, special days to do one thing or not do another. I figure he is handling many cabins and whatever I can do to not make the job more complicated, I am happy to do. If cabin A wants such-and-such at so-and-so time of the day, and cabin B wants something else at another time of the day, and then cabin C doesn't want this-or-that on odd days, while cabin D wants to be left alone every three days, except if its a full moon, the poor attendant's head is probably spinning at all the special needs at all the special times. ;p

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oh, please. The cabin we stayed at on Caribbean princess this year was not deep or spot cleaned in forever. We brought Lysol wipes and wiped everything (and I mean - every surface!), and all the wipes were simply black with dirt. And we are not even clean freaks, far from it.

 

 

 

Well then you should have brought that up. As a former housekeeper, I HATED the layovers who didn't want servicing. It absolutely made for more work when I finally did get in the room, whether it was one day later or the end of the stay. Didn't matter if they trashed the room, or were relatively neat and clean.

 

 

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I think there are other ways to make their jobs easier. Picking up personal items and keeping them out of the way. Not missing the garbage can. Not leaving giant plugs of hair in the tub. Not leaving jobs of toothpaste in the sink. Not leaving wet towels on the bed. Etc. While it might not transpire into a "day off" it's certainly nicer than making their job harder. :)

 

 

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Less work now, means more work later. If you don't want daily cleaning...fine...live with it. It's not helping the staff, tho.

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Cleaning my cabin twice a day is nice but absolutely not necessary for me. In fact I appreciate the slight feeling of "coming home" to a bed that looks exactly like how I left it in the morning. And I've seen the towel animals before.

 

So my last cruise, 14 days, I put out the privacy card and left it there except for 2 days to get new towels and fresh sheets.

 

Other guests hardly ever used the card, so I was wondering if the steward would appreciate not having to clean my room every day or if they'd think I was setting up a meth lab and needed to report this strange behaviour.

 

I was thinking that if you're in a large group, you could organize a "privacy day", where everyone says they don't need cleaning and the room stewards get a day off.

 

BTW, I did tip like I normally would.

 

I think it is a very thoughtful idea.

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I wouldn't leave the privacy card up when you aren't in the cabin simply to deter the steward from cleaning. They will still feel obligated to clean the cabin and simply check by it more often. My bf keeps crazy hours so we often had the privacy card up but somehow the steward still manages to sneak in and clean whenever he does leave.

 

I would simply talk to the steward, tell them you only need the room cleaned once a day and you'll let them know if you need anything else. I don't think we made a 'mess' of our room. But the trash cans are small and need emptied; we often bring a plate of snacks back to the room and the steward takes the used plates out; we often need to switch out towels because they just don't seem to dry well inside the cabin. Things like that. I'm sure it's far more convenient for them to service your cabin while they are servicing others rather than hanging around all day waiting for you to leave so they can get in and clean.

 

 

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All this makes me think of one of the popular items on the what to pack list. A pad of sticky notes to leave messages for the steward. Sounds like a high maintenance type of person. Probably in all of my 49 cruises I've probably left a note once or twice. The were many cruises where I maybe met the steward once during the entire week.

 

Perhaps we have an uncomfortable feeling about the hard working cabin stewards in general as the majority of us do not have personal butlers or maids in our normal life?

 

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