Milwaukee Eight Posted October 5, 2017 #151 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Well I’m guessing that when one person was buying the package and the other person just paying as they go, the non-package passengers were ‘buying’ less drinks, partly because some bar staff were assuming both passengers had the package and didn’t charge for the second, partly because of sharing, and partly because they just didn’t actually drink as much when they had to actually pay for it each time because it made them stop and think about it a bit more. So they figure they are probably going to go through the same amount of drinks, but now everyone will be paying for them. The times we have sailed with only one of us having the Drink Package, I can not recall getting two drinks on one Sea Pass Card without being charged for the second drink. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spenno21 Posted October 5, 2017 #152 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I've just purchased one deluxe package for my wife and not for me, if they can't sort the IT out to enforce all guests in a room to buy then I don't see how they can enforce when on Ship. We sail on the FOS on Oct 15th. If they suddenly bill me for another package i will not be happy. I would not get the value as I only drink a few beers each day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzieanna Posted October 5, 2017 #153 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I am very confused as to how this whole "personal preference" exemption works. Package sharers will just claim this exemption - and carry on sharing -won't they??? How can you "prove" a personal preference. Will they kick such people off the ship if they have then bought themselves a drink? Will their card be marked so they physically can't? Will all their friends be monitored so they aren't buying for them?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryann2 Posted October 5, 2017 #154 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Let's be real here. They will do it the same as ALL other cruise lines. No exemptions. If you want the package all in the cabin must buy it. Otherwise no-one buys it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis#1 Posted October 5, 2017 #155 Share Posted October 5, 2017 The times we have sailed with only one of us having the Drink Package, I can not recall getting two drinks on one Sea Pass Card without being charged for the second drink. Sent from my iPhone using Forums When I show my sea pass card at the bar, I almost always can get two drinks at the same time (using the preloaded 3 drinks on the sea pass card). Guess the bar tenders like the daily cash tip I give them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleonwater Posted October 5, 2017 #156 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I Thanks for the info, is this in their FAQ's? I think I might print it out to take with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodtime Cruizin Posted October 5, 2017 #157 Share Posted October 5, 2017 You keep posting that because they are a for-profit that this can't possibly have anything to do with preventing stealing, but those two things go together. There are plenty of people boasting about stealing, but the fact that people here have not seen it, means nothing, they are trying to hide it, and we have no idea who paid for a drink, or who has a package. This does affect me, because my wife wants the package, but I probably was not going to buy, and it still doesn't bother me. We have the choice to buy it not, if it makes sense, we will, if not then no. Sent from my Pixel XL using Forums mobile app Both will make changes in the bottomline, but increasing pricing is to increases income, while decreasing product shortages is done to reduce the expenses. Whether you understand this is on you. But companies can & do make operating adjustments to both for specific reasons. Again, is your known and/or visual experience a 1 to 1 ratio or a 1000 to 1 ratio on cruisers that you know for a fact are sharing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maraprince Posted October 5, 2017 #158 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Glad that neither I or my cabin mate drink!!!! Definitely I would not want to pay for a drinks' package if my cabin mate did and I don't.:( MARAPRINCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEGL Posted October 5, 2017 #159 Share Posted October 5, 2017 This may have already been asked but I cant go through 8 pages of posts - so sorry if this has been spoken about already. Lets say one of the adults in the group wants the drink package but the other adult is a recovering alcoholic and doesnt want the dink package available on their card. Then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted October 5, 2017 #160 Share Posted October 5, 2017 This may have already been asked but I cant go through 8 pages of posts - so sorry if this has been spoken about already. Lets say one of the adults in the group wants the drink package but the other adult is a recovering alcoholic and doesnt want the dink package available on their card. Then what? There are supposedly exceptions to the rule, but no details on how the exceptions would be handled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveru621 Posted October 5, 2017 #161 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Total $1,817.20 USD for a 14 day drink package. HAhahahahahahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARCruisinNana Posted October 5, 2017 #162 Share Posted October 5, 2017 It is effective 12/31/17 fleet wide Sent from my iPhone using Forums It is in effect for my 10/23/17 Vision cruise. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolfansam Posted October 5, 2017 #163 Share Posted October 5, 2017 It is in effect for my 10/23/17 Vision cruise. Sent from my iPad using Forums It may be in effect for cruises before if you have not already purchased it. But statement I posted earlier clearly says Dec 31. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bala1130 Posted October 5, 2017 #164 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Originally posted by bala1130 My guess if you purchase 1 package, the charge for the other will automatically be added to you room charges once on the ship. Anything posted to my seapass account without my authorization will not be looked upon kindly. I'm not saying it's correct. But if the small print on the website says "Everyone 21 and over will need to purchase the package, everyone needs to", Royal could say you did authorize it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DISFANS3 Posted October 5, 2017 #165 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Will this be for the Freedom also in Jan 2018?? I have one Drink package booked now, not for second guest.. Thanks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted October 5, 2017 #166 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Will this be for the Freedom also in Jan 2018?? I have one Drink package booked now, not for second guest.. Thanks.. No one knows for sure yet how Royal will handle existing purchases for cruises after Jan 1 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleonwater Posted October 5, 2017 #167 Share Posted October 5, 2017 It is in effect for my 10/23/17 Vision cruise. I suspect, if you are able to go in and purchase for just one person in the cabin, ie the system doesn't automatically select all over 21, then it's not really in effect for your sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rukkian Posted October 5, 2017 #168 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Both will make changes in the bottomline, but increasing pricing is to increases income, while decreasing product shortages is done to reduce the expenses. Whether you understand this is on you. But companies can & do make operating adjustments to both for specific reasons. Again, is your known and/or visual experience a 1 to 1 ratio or a 1000 to 1 ratio on cruisers that you know for a fact are sharing? You seem to be proving my point for me. You keep trying to say this can't be about sharing because it is to increase profits. Profits come from the difference between costs and income. Whether you decrease the rate of theft (lowers costs due to theft and gets people to either buy a package or pay for their drinks, or just smuggle their own drinks on), or get more income (more package and/or drink purchases) you are still increasing profits, which is the point. Covering both of these things in one step just helps increase profits further. I don't care what other people do on their vacation, I am not the drink police, and don't monitor other people, but since you are the one claiming there is no way this can have anything to do with sharing, why don't you provide the stats to back up your assertion? In the end, I don't care, even though this effects me, it is what it is. I don't get stressed out about it. My wife and I will either buy a package if it makes sense, or not. We can make the choice for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coops Posted October 5, 2017 #169 Share Posted October 5, 2017 No need to lie about anything, if it is your "Personal Preference" not to drink then they will not enforce this rule Why are the even making this change , when one can simply say . Personal Preference. So really no change at all. And all this and people are upset about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherman793 Posted October 5, 2017 #170 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I called because we are on 10-29 Oasis of the Seas cruise and I purchased my husband a package about a month ago. I carry on my allowed amount of wine and that is plenty for me. I am NOT a drinker or do I care about cheating. If I really want to try something I just order it and pay for it but I will not pay for two packages. So the customer service guy said since we had already paid for it we were fine. The policy changed fleetwide yesterday so from here on when we cruise we will pay as we go.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanchari Posted October 5, 2017 #171 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Why are the even making this change , when one can simply say . Personal Preference. So really no change at all. And all this and people are upset about it.Its a hoop that people have to jump through and some will not by paying for the package Sent from my Pixel XL using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSUFan5 Posted October 5, 2017 #172 Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) Glad that neither I or my cabin mate drink!!!! Definitely I would not want to pay for a drinks' package if my cabin mate did and I don't.:( MARAPRINCE Sorry deleted post Sent from my iPad using Forums Edited October 5, 2017 by MSUFan5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted October 5, 2017 #173 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Why are the even making this change , when one can simply say . Personal Preference. So really no change at all. And all this and people are upset about it. Because they know human nature - they count on the fact that you will not take the time to call in for the exemption and simply buy two packages online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David0422 Posted October 5, 2017 #174 Share Posted October 5, 2017 This is the result of the dishonest cheaters that try to share their package to save a buck. :mad::mad: I would have to strongly disagree with you and say it is because the crew doesn't do an adequate job of charging the non-packaged guest. In the long run, it is going to effect the tip of the bartenders (negatively). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted October 5, 2017 #175 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Because they know human nature - they count on the fact that you will not take the time to call in for the exemption and simply buy two packages online. That and the fact that a very small % of the cruising public actually read cruise critic and would even know about the exemptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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