Cruise it or lose it Posted March 22, 2019 #1 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I've been watching my sailing where there are some upper suites still available after final payment. There are no longer (according to the website) any more Sky suites available. Yet they are still selling Sky suite guarantees. I don't understand. why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton.C Posted March 22, 2019 #2 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Guessing if they don't sell out of the upper suites they can bump up people from the Sky Suites, and fill in the new vacancies with the guarantees... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise it or lose it Posted March 22, 2019 Author #3 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Clayton.C said: Guessing if they don't sell out of the upper suites they can bump up people from the Sky Suites, and fill in the new vacancies with the guarantees... I was thinking they believe they will get Move up bids. I got a Sky suite guarantee for this cruise and the rep from Celebrity really made it clear it's almost unheard of to get an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varoo Posted March 22, 2019 #4 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Right. They keep selling sky suite guarantees, move up the people who submit move up bids to the higher level suites, and assign the vacated sky suites to the new guarantees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise it or lose it Posted March 22, 2019 Author #5 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, varoo said: Right. They keep selling sky suite guarantees, move up the people who submit move up bids to the higher level suites, and assign the vacated sky suites to the new guarantees. I haven't been on a cruise for 2 years and mostly sail Celebrity. I was in shock that a Sky suite guarantee was more than I paid for a Celebrity suite 2 years ago. Might be a long time before I sail again in a suite. Talking it over with my spouse we decided we aren't getting any younger and to go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrk2cruise Posted March 23, 2019 #6 Share Posted March 23, 2019 The available inventory of suites is meaningless. When booking a "W" you have to assume that you will be getting the worst suite. (This is one category where I don't care if I get the worst one). Many times in the past you would get the accessible sky suites which some people didn't like. Now I believe the chances are that you will get the vacated suite from someone who bid using MoveUp from Sky Suite to a higher suite. My personal belief is there is now a better chance of getting a S1 or a S2 than before but that's just my personal belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagoffee Posted March 23, 2019 #7 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Perhaps another reason is because the GTY does not include any BBB perks whereas with a Move Up offer allows you to key your existing perks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEwAbG Posted March 23, 2019 #8 Share Posted March 23, 2019 The website may also not be showing all of the inventory at any given time, either. Could be rooms are being held aside for a variety of reasons. There have been plenty of stories on here wherein people on a cruise are told everything is "sold out" when they encounter a problem once on the ship only to have a room magically appear available when the issue turns more critical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise it or lose it Posted March 23, 2019 Author #9 Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) We were assigned a S1 a few days after booking. It is not accessible. Has anyone ever been downgraded after assignment? Edited March 23, 2019 by Cruise it or lose it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrk2cruise Posted March 23, 2019 #10 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Once assigned I don't believe you will be changed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Jim_Iain Posted March 23, 2019 #11 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I'll let you all know in awhile. I upgraded to a SS Guarantee 5 weeks ago. The sailing is in about 3 weeks and I still don't have a cabin assignment. When I booked there was only 1 Guarantee available and then about a week later they opened up Gty sales again for 10 days. At the time they had 3 CS, 5 RS and 1 PH open but they all disappeared when they opened up for Move-Up. While I know I will get a cabin it is a pain that I can't order luggage tabs or print my boarding pass until I have a room assignment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLbeachbaby Posted March 24, 2019 #12 Share Posted March 24, 2019 The only suite category available was a SS guarantee for our Greek Isles trip. It took a good 2 months for it to be assigned. We sail in August and it did come with all the perks despite a previous post to the contrary. It was not inexpensive either. Originally booked Aqua then grabbed the guarantee when it popped up. It was also the last available suite and none have showed up since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagoffee Posted March 24, 2019 #13 Share Posted March 24, 2019 6 hours ago, FLbeachbaby said: The only suite category available was a SS guarantee for our Greek Isles trip. It took a good 2 months for it to be assigned. We sail in August and it did come with all the perks despite a previous post to the contrary. It was not inexpensive either. Originally booked Aqua then grabbed the guarantee when it popped up. It was also the last available suite and none have showed up since. Are you saying that your SS Guarantee came with the Best (four perks) Package? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcrusn Posted March 24, 2019 #14 Share Posted March 24, 2019 On 3/22/2019 at 6:37 PM, Cruise it or lose it said: I've been watching my sailing where there are some upper suites still available after final payment. There are no longer (according to the website) any more Sky suites available. Yet they are still selling Sky suite guarantees. I don't understand. why. Lets assume there are no sky suites vacant at the moment, they will do one of two things. 1. (most likely) someone will bid to “move up” and they will assign you that sky suite. 2. If that doesn’t happen, you will get whatever suite is available. Guarantee cabins are a nice way to fill the ship without hurting the perceived value of the brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrk2cruise Posted March 24, 2019 #15 Share Posted March 24, 2019 4 hours ago, jagoffee said: Are you saying that your SS Guarantee came with the Best (four perks) Package? It can if it's "full price". If it's exciting deals or senior or resident discount it will not. There are all kinds of fares for each category. I didn't realize just how many until a recent redesign of the website of one of the popular online TA's which now lists them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise it or lose it Posted March 24, 2019 Author #16 Share Posted March 24, 2019 My SS guarantee came with four perks. The rep from Celebrity quoted a resident rate and also the promo that was going on with the four perks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracie115 Posted March 24, 2019 #17 Share Posted March 24, 2019 On 3/23/2019 at 1:38 PM, Jim_Iain said: I'll let you all know in awhile. I upgraded to a SS Guarantee 5 weeks ago. The sailing is in about 3 weeks and I still don't have a cabin assignment. When I booked there was only 1 Guarantee available and then about a week later they opened up Gty sales again for 10 days. At the time they had 3 CS, 5 RS and 1 PH open but they all disappeared when they opened up for Move-Up. While I know I will get a cabin it is a pain that I can't order luggage tabs or print my boarding pass until I have a room assignment. Is this for the Silhouette TA 4/14? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtravel Posted March 24, 2019 #18 Share Posted March 24, 2019 On 3/23/2019 at 1:30 PM, wrk2cruise said: Once assigned I don't believe you will be changed. Not true. On one cruise I was assigned and reassigned 3 times. Each time I moved up to a higher category cabin. The best guarantee cabins are given out closer to embarkation. I have been given a cabin right after booking months before sailing. I have also waited until embarkation to get a cabin. The best was about 25 years ago, bought an inside gty and moved up 9 categories. When you book gty, you gamble on cabin location and size. You also save money. Never been unhappy with a gty. Good luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHEZMARYLOU Posted March 25, 2019 #19 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Because with the Revolution of the M class no one wants to book the SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagoffee Posted March 25, 2019 #20 Share Posted March 25, 2019 13 hours ago, wrk2cruise said: It can if it's "full price". If it's exciting deals or senior or resident discount it will not. There are all kinds of fares for each category. I didn't realize just how many until a recent redesign of the website of one of the popular online TA's which now lists them all. 13 hours ago, Cruise it or lose it said: My SS guarantee came with four perks. The rep from Celebrity quoted a resident rate and also the promo that was going on with the four perks. Good to know. Thank you, both. I thought I had ready somewhere that the lower price quoted for the SS GTY did not include the Best Package like the regular category. As I think about it, I seldom ever see the Suite GTY on my cruises, because the suites are usually sold out. Thanks, again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise it or lose it Posted March 25, 2019 Author #21 Share Posted March 25, 2019 On 3/23/2019 at 1:38 PM, Jim_Iain said: I'll let you all know in awhile. I upgraded to a SS Guarantee 5 weeks ago. The sailing is in about 3 weeks and I still don't have a cabin assignment. When I booked there was only 1 Guarantee available and then about a week later they opened up Gty sales again for 10 days. At the time they had 3 CS, 5 RS and 1 PH open but they all disappeared when they opened up for Move-Up. While I know I will get a cabin it is a pain that I can't order luggage tabs or print my boarding pass until I have a room assignment. Did you find out yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malony33 Posted March 27, 2019 #22 Share Posted March 27, 2019 On 3/24/2019 at 8:00 PM, CHEZMARYLOU said: Because with the Revolution of the M class no one wants to book the SS. WHY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Jim_Iain Posted March 27, 2019 #23 Share Posted March 27, 2019 On 3/24/2019 at 12:03 AM, jagoffee said: Are you saying that your SS Guarantee came with the Best (four perks) Package? I have a Suite Guarantee booked currently that when I booked it was being offered with both all 4 Perks as well as no perks (for $400 pp less). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordoncruickshank Posted March 27, 2019 #24 Share Posted March 27, 2019 On 3/23/2019 at 5:38 PM, Jim_Iain said: I'll let you all know in awhile. I upgraded to a SS Guarantee 5 weeks ago. The sailing is in about 3 weeks and I still don't have a cabin assignment. When I booked there was only 1 Guarantee available and then about a week later they opened up Gty sales again for 10 days. At the time they had 3 CS, 5 RS and 1 PH open but they all disappeared when they opened up for Move-Up. While I know I will get a cabin it is a pain that I can't order luggage tabs or print my boarding pass until I have a room assignment. A few years ago I switched one of our bookings to a CS guarantee. There were no CS available when I did it only a PH and a couple of RS. We got a CS but it was only allocated around a week before the cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Jim_Iain Posted March 27, 2019 #25 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Gordoncruickshank said: A few years ago I switched one of our bookings to a CS guarantee. There were no CS available when I did it only a PH and a couple of RS. We got a CS but it was only allocated around a week before the cruise. I may be in the same time frame as you. It is 3 weeks until our cruise and still have not gotten an assignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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