Pratique Posted April 3, 2019 #651 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Grumpus said: More interesting to me is that the Russians have only one carrier. 🤔 Only *had* one carrier sounds more appropriate. Unless they've fixed the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdjaguar Posted April 3, 2019 #652 Share Posted April 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, The Grumpus said: More interesting to me is that the Russians have only one carrier. 🤔 Same as China. Except China’s carrier has no planes (yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdjaguar Posted April 3, 2019 #653 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I think China bought their carrier hull from Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 3, 2019 #654 Share Posted April 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, The Grumpus said: More interesting to me is that the Russians have only one carrier. 🤔 Russian carrier travels with a couple of tug boats. 🤣 Pretty sure US carriers are faster than their support ships. Luckily their subs can keep up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willde Posted April 3, 2019 #655 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, ipeeinthepool said: The situation with the Oasis has a proposed solution, at this point I'm more interested in the next step. I'm booked on a ship a couple of months from now that is supposed to be the first cruise after dry dock. I'll be interested in any damage to the dry dock and any impact on future dry docks for other ships. Hadn't really though about repairs to the drydock. 🤔 Assuming it's determined to have sufficient integrity for repair, maybe a large cofferdam could be built around it to get it out of the water. Might be more cost effective to build a graving dock in its place. Speculating greatly... 🤓 Edited April 3, 2019 by willde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted April 3, 2019 #656 Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: ... Pretty sure US carriers are faster than their support ships. Luckily their subs can keep up. Top speed in excess of 30 kts. I don't think the Navy reveals the actual top speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted April 3, 2019 #657 Share Posted April 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, jdjaguar said: Same as China. Except China’s carrier has no planes (yet). 7 minutes ago, jdjaguar said: I think China bought their carrier hull from Russia. Well I read in that story that Russia dumped a few jets into the ocean, so China could fix those up too. 🤫 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 3, 2019 #658 Share Posted April 3, 2019 36 minutes ago, ipeeinthepool said: The situation with the Oasis has a proposed solution, at this point I'm more interested in the next step. I'm booked on a ship a couple of months from now that is supposed to be the first cruise after dry dock. I'll be interested in any damage to the dry dock and any impact on future dry docks for other ships. What ship are you sailing on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 3, 2019 #659 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Host Clarea said: Top speed in excess of 30 kts. I don't think the Navy reveals the actual top speed. Pat says the Enterprise was the fastest carrier ever. Edited April 3, 2019 by John&LaLa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted April 3, 2019 #660 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Just now, John&LaLa said: Pat says the Enterprise was the fastest carrier ever, but yes, the Nimitz ships do 30+ its. Legend is the sea trials were done with gauges blacked out. From what I've read, only the attack subs can keep up with a carrier wide open. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted April 3, 2019 #661 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, MrMarc said: From research on the internet, which does not make me any kind of expert, I found a number of references to "Transverse bending Failure". No reason for anyone to believe me, I am just guessing. If I am right, no one will care. If I am wrong, I expect to be flamed for needless speculation. Such is life on the internet, but sometimes it's fun. This whole thread is full of speculation, nothing wrong with supplying a link, time will tell what actually happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bajathree Posted April 3, 2019 #662 Share Posted April 3, 2019 39 minutes ago, The Grumpus said: More interesting to me is that the Russians have only one carrier. 🤔 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floatn Posted April 3, 2019 #663 Share Posted April 3, 2019 RCCL is telling TA's that she's left the shipyard and is underway to Cadiz. Tis true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted April 3, 2019 #664 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, floatn said: RCCL is telling TA's that she's left the shipyard and is underway to Cadiz. Tis true? Marine Traffic shows it still in the shipyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby1 Posted April 3, 2019 #665 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 hours ago, chengkp75 said: I still believe it was a failure of a ballast pipe or valve on the dock that flooded one or more of the ballast tanks, sinking that side of the dock. From the reports on some sites of the failure of the dock and the port now stating there are going to be far less work due to dock 2 now not being available for a significant amount of time going forwards it does appear to be more than ballast tanks now. The original video shows one side of the dock vertical with the crane pressing into the side of the ship, but the other side of the dock and canes also pointing into the ship, which lets be honest isn't a good sign. The shot below seems from the angle to show the same. One side up in the air but the other side vertical / leaning it a little, could be the camera but other shots show the same strange angles. We will find out the right answer eventually though hey, just hypothesising. Just need someone to go around it with a camera and boat to give us a better view, anyone local with a dingy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarc Posted April 3, 2019 #666 Share Posted April 3, 2019 32 minutes ago, reallyitsmema said: Marine Traffic shows it still in the shipyard. But there are 2 tugs that seem to be positioning themselves around the bow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted April 3, 2019 #667 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, MrMarc said: But there are 2 tugs that seem to be positioning themselves around the bow Yes and there is a third at the stern, but I think those have been there since the accident. A pilot boat had just been by Oasis about 5 minutes ago too but there was a pilot boat near Oasis yesterday multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezelaya Posted April 3, 2019 #668 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, reallyitsmema said: Yes and there is a third at the stern, but I think those have been there since the accident. A pilot boat had just been by Oasis about 5 minutes ago too but there was a pilot boat near Oasis yesterday multiple times. I was just gonna say the same thing. The pilot was there yesterday also and then went to a cargo ship across the way. Tugs have been with Oasis all day and a pusher (Commitment) has been docked nearby also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarc Posted April 3, 2019 #669 Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, reallyitsmema said: Yes and there is a third at the stern, but I think those have been there since the accident. A pilot boat had just been by Oasis about 5 minutes ago too but there was a pilot boat near Oasis yesterday multiple times. Thinking about it, they would probably have to remove the cranes first, which I would imagine will take more than 1 day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Billy Bob Posted April 3, 2019 #670 Share Posted April 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, MrMarc said: But there are 2 tugs that seem to be positioning themselves around the bow They've been anchored there since yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipeeinthepool Posted April 3, 2019 #671 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, John&LaLa said: What ship are you sailing on? I'm sailing on the Celebrity Silhouette which is scheduled in January 2020. They are updating their fleet and the first of their Solstice class ships is scheduled for May 2019. Depending on how things go we could sail on the Equinox later this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Billy Bob Posted April 3, 2019 #672 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, MrMarc said: Thinking about it, they would probably have to remove the cranes first, which I would imagine will take more than 1 day. They're gonna need a bigger crane to remove the crane. Unless they plan on shipping the crane that is onboard to Spain. The crane to Spain is really a pain Edited April 3, 2019 by Captain Billy Bob 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted April 3, 2019 #673 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Captain Billy Bob said: ... The crane to Spain is really a pain Excellent!😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdjaguar Posted April 3, 2019 #674 Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Captain Billy Bob said: They're gonna need a bigger crane to remove the crane. Unless they plan on shipping the crane that is onboard to Spain. The crane to Spain is really a pain Nice reference! but to sing it add “just” after “really” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster Posted April 3, 2019 #675 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) James Van Fleet ever share details on social media after the mishap? Seemed like he was really into giving us first hand details from GBSL a few days ago. Edited April 3, 2019 by coaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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