Rare xpcdoojk Posted June 15, 2022 #60751 Share Posted June 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Friends don't let freinds fly Alegiant I think it is perfect for flying for drinking someone else’s nice wine. Not like you have to be there a specific weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted June 15, 2022 #60752 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Just now, xpcdoojk said: Our bill is determined by April and October usage by the city. Many cities and water operators are installing wireless meters on gas, water and sewer usage. Cheaper to just drive by and have the meter read by a computer. I can’t imagine adding to the rest of that conversation. All of ours have been wireless for years. I like it on electric. I can see my usage in real time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted June 15, 2022 #60753 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, xpcdoojk said: I think it is perfect for flying for drinking someone else’s nice wine. Not like you have to be there a specific weekend. Good point. I'll have my girl check my calendar and get back with you I'll even spring for some cashew chicken Edited June 15, 2022 by John&LaLa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Sea Dog Posted June 15, 2022 #60754 Share Posted June 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Good point. I'll have my girl check my calendar and get back with you I'll even spring for some cashew chicken Nothing better than Springfield cashew chicken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine3601 Posted June 15, 2022 #60755 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, lenquixote66 said: TSOTD :Abbey Road from the Beatles Collection My TSOTD is a bright pink over-sized tank top from St. Thomas I am using as a cover up for Bathing suit. Heading to the beach soon. Edited June 15, 2022 by Sunshine3601 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted June 15, 2022 #60756 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, xpcdoojk said: I can’t imagine humping laundry up and down the stairs. jc Lol, I don't have to imagine it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare brillohead Posted June 15, 2022 #60757 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Tankless water heater commentary: We have one at the house I moved into last year. The hall bathroom used to have a huge whirlpool tub (it got torn out to put in the elevator to the basement), and I could fill that thing with piping hot water in a flash and never run out of hot water. Lawdy, I miss that tub! Water/sewer commentary: Where I used to live, the sewer charge was based on your water usage on the fourth and first quarter bills, so filling a pool and watering your lawn didn't count against you for sewer usage -- they just based the sewer portion of your bill on the water you used in the off months. Don't get me started on the concept that you shouldn't have to pay for water that you wasted .... let's just say that OB and I agree on that one. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted June 15, 2022 #60758 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, xpcdoojk said: I have a Rinnai, that is 18 years old this year. I love it. I love having unlimited hot water. It is on Natural Gas and it is far more efficient than the tanked heater we replaced. Since we typically don’t use all that much water as a family of two, I expect our gas usage to be at least 30% less. I can’t think of any disadvantage. JC I was going to do it when my previous tank heater failed but I had not done any research at the time and needed a replacement fast so put in another tank. But if (when) this one goes I will most likely make the conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted June 15, 2022 #60759 Share Posted June 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: I was going to do it when my previous tank heater failed but I had not done any research at the time and needed a replacement fast so put in another tank. But if (when) this one goes I will most likely make the conversion. Same here , and cost to install was going to be a few thousand more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATG Posted June 15, 2022 #60760 Share Posted June 15, 2022 25 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: I was going to do it when my previous tank heater failed but I had not done any research at the time and needed a replacement fast so put in another tank. But if (when) this one goes I will most likely make the conversion. Where we live in the country, we don’t have access to natural gas. Does anyone have experience with the electric tankless ones? Our house (and the water heater) is 13 years old. Luckily in the basement with a drain. I also got an alarm that blares if it detects water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare brillohead Posted June 15, 2022 #60761 Share Posted June 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, ATG said: Where we live in the country, we don’t have access to natural gas. Does anyone have experience with the electric tankless ones? Our house (and the water heater) is 13 years old. Luckily in the basement with a drain. I also got an alarm that blares if it detects water. I'd recommend propane (LP) gas rather than electric for a tankless water heater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted June 15, 2022 #60762 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, John&LaLa said: Friends don't let freinds fly Alegiant They might if they aren't good friends.......... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare bobmacliberty Posted June 15, 2022 #60763 Share Posted June 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, ATG said: Where we live in the country, we don’t have access to natural gas. Does anyone have experience with the electric tankless ones? Our house (and the water heater) is 13 years old. Luckily in the basement with a drain. I also got an alarm that blares if it detects water. We don't have natural gas here. We have a large propane tank buried in our yard. Our tankless heater runs on propane, although it needs electricity also for the electronics to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coralc Posted June 15, 2022 #60764 Share Posted June 15, 2022 3 hours ago, grapau27 said: It is a sunny 75°F in our garden at 16.00pm. Are those real rabbits? They look like someone's pet rabbits. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted June 15, 2022 #60765 Share Posted June 15, 2022 37 minutes ago, ATG said: Where we live in the country, we don’t have access to natural gas. Does anyone have experience with the electric tankless ones? Our house (and the water heater) is 13 years old. Luckily in the basement with a drain. I also got an alarm that blares if it detects water. Can't help. We have natural gas service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted June 15, 2022 #60766 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Coralc said: Are those real rabbits? They look like someone's pet rabbits. Pauline loves rabbit's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted June 15, 2022 #60767 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, bobmacliberty said: We don't have natural gas here. We have a large propane tank buried in our yard. Our tankless heater runs on propane, although it needs electricity also for the electronics to work. Just like with a gas furnace and hot water tank. When the power goes off you still loose your heat and hot water. The gas fireplace will still throws off some heat but not like when there is power for its blower to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted June 15, 2022 #60768 Share Posted June 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Coralc said: Are those real rabbits? They look like someone's pet rabbits. Or somebodies dinner?😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coralc Posted June 15, 2022 #60769 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 minute ago, grapau27 said: Pauline loves rabbit's. Oh. Are they yours? Do you have a hutch somewhere for them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted June 15, 2022 #60770 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Coralc said: Oh. Are they yours? Do you have a hutch somewhere for them? They look real but were specially made with crushed granite and resin. We have had pet rabbit's in the past as well as cats and dogs. Edited June 15, 2022 by grapau27 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare bobmacliberty Posted June 15, 2022 #60771 Share Posted June 15, 2022 16 hours ago, Vibe said: Sometimes the pipe for the drain gets clogged causing the drain float to rise turning off the switch until it starts draining again and the float goes back down. Using a shop vac to suck out the end of the pipe outside by the compressor will usually clear it. You win Cruise Critic today (yesterday). Or at least you would have won if I had listened to you. That was exactly our problem. For those who don't understand what @Vibe is talking about, the air handling unit (the blower that moves air throughout the house where your air filter is located) has a drain line to keep condensation out of the system. If the drain line gets plugged, condensation will back up in the line. There's a little chamber near the top of the drain line with a float switch in it. If condensation backs up enough to cause the float switch to rise, it sends a signal to shut off the system so that you aren't blowing condensate through your ductwork. When the switch gets tripped, there will be no power on the Rc wire at the thermostat. When the condensation slowly drains, the float eventually drops and the system turns on again. As @Vibe said, my A/C guy hooked up a shop vac to the end of the drain line to suck out the water and the slime/gunk in the line that was causing it to drain slowly. It was clogged enough that he had to also blast the line with compressed air on the other end to push to clog through. We are no set up for twice a year service checks which include cleaning the condensation drain. Costs us $165/year for two system checks/cleanings per year. Good peace of mind. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATG Posted June 15, 2022 #60772 Share Posted June 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: Just like with a gas furnace and hot water tank. When the power goes off you still loose your heat and hot water. The gas fireplace will still throws off some heat but not like when there is power for its blower to work. Our previous house near Atlanta had natural gas for heating and hot water. One bad ice storm we lost power for 3 days. The only warm room was the bathroom where we kept the bathtub filled with hot water. That and the gas fireplace meant we didn’t have to go to a hotel. We cooked on the outdoor grill. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare bobmacliberty Posted June 15, 2022 #60773 Share Posted June 15, 2022 I remember many years ago being at my parent's house in Savannah for Thanksgiving. They lost power Thanksgiving day. We managed to make an entire Thanksgiving dinner using just the outdoor gas grill. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted June 15, 2022 #60774 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, bobmacliberty said: You win Cruise Critic today (yesterday). Or at least you would have won if I had listened to you. That was exactly our problem. For those who don't understand what @Vibe is talking about, the air handling unit (the blower that moves air throughout the house where your air filter is located) has a drain line to keep condensation out of the system. If the drain line gets plugged, condensation will back up in the line. There's a little chamber near the top of the drain line with a float switch in it. If condensation backs up enough to cause the float switch to rise, it sends a signal to shut off the system so that you aren't blowing condensate through your ductwork. When the switch gets tripped, there will be no power on the Rc wire at the thermostat. When the condensation slowly drains, the float eventually drops and the system turns on again. As @Vibe said, my A/C guy hooked up a shop vac to the end of the drain line to suck out the water and the slime/gunk in the line that was causing it to drain slowly. It was clogged enough that he had to also blast the line with compressed air on the other end to push to clog through. We are no set up for twice a year service checks which include cleaning the condensation drain. Costs us $165/year for two system checks/cleanings per year. Good peace of mind. Is your air handler in the attic? That is usually the set up for attic units. Our air handlers are in the basement, if the line going outside is clogged ours would just overflow on to the basement floor and not turn off the AC unit. We do have a little condensation pump for each handler that pumps the water up one flight to the outside. Your drain is gravity fed and more likely to clog with dirt and grime. When our condensation pumps come on the water comes out with a good amount of pressure from the pumps. Edited June 15, 2022 by Jimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare bobmacliberty Posted June 15, 2022 #60775 Share Posted June 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Jimbo said: Is your air handler in the attic? That is usually the set up for attic units. Our air handlers are in the basement, if the line going outside is clogged ours would just overflow on to the basement floor and not turn off the AC unit. We do have a little condensation pump for each handler that pumps the water up one flight to the outside. Your drain is gravity fed and more likely to clog with dirt and grime. When our condensation pumps come on the water comes out with a good amount of pressure from the pumps. Our AHU is on the main (only) floor of the house, in a little closet off of our laundry room. The condensate drain is gravity fed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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