Possible casino scenario

[suesnake2002]

I recently received a letter from Mohegan Sun in CT. Part of their re-opening is no smoking inside the property at all. They always had a small no smoking section, but this is big. 

When you think about it, it makes perfect sense. Now the big question is will cruise lines follow this. Me for one hope so. For everyones safety and health. 

[ToroAzul]

How does it make sense? If anything, smokers are getting benefit from consuming nicotine/smoking. They are a strangely low percentage of C19 infection rate. 

 

Don't say "masks." 

 

The whole thing is crazy. 

[Merion_Mom]

14 minutes ago, ToroAzul said:

How does it make sense? If anything, smokers are getting benefit from consuming nicotine/smoking. They are a strangely low percentage of C19 infection rate. 

 

Don't say "masks." 

 

The whole thing is crazy. 

 

15 minutes ago, ToroAzul said:

How does it make sense? If anything, smokers are getting benefit from consuming nicotine/smoking. They are a strangely low percentage of C19 infection rate. 

 

Don't say "masks." 

 

The whole thing is crazy. 

 

How do you (think you) know such a thing?

[ToroAzul]

Strangely worded response. Because smokers are weirdly underrepresented in infection rates. Studies implying that the nicotine receptors of cells may have benefit with smokers. First hand experience on the front lines. 

[John&LaLa]

2 minutes ago, ToroAzul said:

Strangely worded response. Because smokers are weirdly underrepresented in infection rates. Studies implying that the nicotine receptors of cells may have benefit with smokers. First hand experience on the front lines. 

 

Original reports from China wad quite the opposite.  Smokers were extremely high risk

[ToroAzul]

Not surprising the amount of people that smoke in China.

 

What does this have to do with a casino in the NE USA?

Edited June 17, 2020 by ToroAzul

[Milwaukee Eight]

This is about the craziest thing I have read here on CC. Smoking is healthy and improves ones response to a COVID19 infection. 
 

Give me a break. 
 

M8

[Lionesss]

With a few studies being posted about certain risk factors preventing covid 19 and yes smoking was part of one of the factors in one study. I do not know the total number of studies on this subject, and yes I know one study can be shot down in an instance.

 

But the study is narrow minded in my opinion.  Which I am waiting for the rebuttles here.

 

If I may explain.

 

The reason I stated the study is narrow minded is that:

 

Smoking in itself may decrease the incidence of covid in the early stages of a smokers history of smoking................but....

 

The long term effects that cause COPD and other additional lung damage from environmental exposures is  a genuine concern.

 

When you have a compromised state from years of smoking you set yourself up for chronic conditions as you age.

 

Why am I sounding off.

 

1.   I am an exsmoker, Smoked for 31 years before I quit.  (9 years one month smoke free)

2.   One of my earlier jobs as an RN was working for a Pulmonologist and taking care of many patients who over indulged in their earlier days smoking and now are suffering the consequences.   Something as simple as a cold or stress would set them off into a crisis.  And this virus is causing havoc.  (I know because my husband is a respiratory therapist and is on the front line). Seeing the disease in action on patients.

3.  I recently retired as a Nurse Anesthetist, and provided care to Respiratory Compromised patients.  Put many to sleep and because of their doctors orders when they woke up we could only send them to ICU to wake up till can breath safely, they went to ICU  on a ventilator.  Not all happened this way, but more than enough.

4.  My husband still is in the work force and at his hospital they have had patients with COPD, who required Ventilatory support for weeks to conquer this virus.  Almost all ended up being trached and needed to go to long term facilities to recover and rebuild their strength.

(Our area of the state has the highest concentration of nursing homes, and we had the highest  concentration of covid positives and unfortunately deaths for a while).

 

Remember other theories came into play and were studied.

Ibuprofen was initially bad and now is listed safe.

Ace Inhibitors (BP meds) were initially a risk factor and now are not.

 

It seems that the majority of risk factors that continue to come into play are:

Obesity

High BP 

Elderly

Immuno compromised 

..........................................to list a few.

 

 

The views expressed are mine, and am eagerly awaiting yours.

 

 

As more studies come out, I hope they shed good news on this virus.

 

Stay healthy.

[John&LaLa]

38 minutes ago, ToroAzul said:

Not surprising the amount of people that smoke in China.

 

What does this have to do with a casino in the NE USA?

 

Nothing with a casino in the NE.

 

Now if it was under a magic bubble in SC, that might change my mind😉

Edited June 17, 2020 by John&LaLa

[bouhunter]

Maybe tomorrow Fauci will recommend everyone take up smoking.  And 4 weeks later he'll say everyone should quit.

 

As for casino's on cruise ships, yeah if RCCL used this to finally eliminate indoor smoking that would be nice.

[ToroAzul]

47 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

This is about the craziest thing I have read here on CC. Smoking is healthy and improves ones response to a COVID19 infection. 
 

Give me a break. 
 

M8

Who said that? 

[mugtech]

1 hour ago, ToroAzul said:

Strangely worded response. Because smokers are weirdly underrepresented in infection rates. Studies implying that the nicotine receptors of cells may have benefit with smokers. First hand experience on the front lines. 

I'll believe it when the president starts smoking.

[ToroAzul]

3 minutes ago, mugtech said:

I'll believe it when the president starts smoking.

lol

[mugtech]

In Bethlehem, PA on Monday a woman was smoking while on oxygen had the oxygen catch fire, burned her face and throat, killing her.  So there is that side effect.

[ToroAzul]

1 minute ago, mugtech said:

In Bethlehem, PA on Monday a woman was smoking while on oxygen had the oxygen catch fire, burned her face and throat, killing her.  So there is that side effect.

 

They probably listed the death as Covid-19

[bowler15547]

Soooooo… Back to the topic at hand... The Rivers in Pittsburgh opened this week and they require masks. I believe you are still able to smoke (don't ask me how that works), but most slot machines have plexiglass between them and the ones that don't are distanced away from others. Table games are limited to three players per table.

[lenquixote66]

7 hours ago, suesnake2002 said:

I recently received a letter from Mohegan Sun in CT. Part of their re-opening is no smoking inside the property at all. They always had a small no smoking section, but this is big. 

When you think about it, it makes perfect sense. Now the big question is will cruise lines follow this. Me for one hope so. For everyones safety and health. 

Did they say anything about re-designing the bathrooms ?

[John&LaLa]

I recently heard from a reputable TA friend not named Ken, that masks will be required in the casino and smoking will not be allowed.  The source was from Casino Royale agent.  I believe her.

[suesnake2002]

Thank you so so much John!!

[Milwaukee Eight]

12 hours ago, John&LaLa said:

I recently heard from a reputable TA friend not named Ken, that masks will be required in the casino and smoking will not be allowed.  The source was from Casino Royale agent.  I believe her.

It seems to be working in Atlantic City. Numerous media sites as a source. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3283628001

 

M8

[Oxo]

21 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

It seems to be working in Atlantic City. Numerous media sites as a source. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3283628001

 

M8

I don't believe you are postings links. You complained about me doing so many times. I guess it is OK for you to do it. 

It is an easy way to provide info and reliable sources. 

YES, I approve this source!

Edited July 10, 2020 by Oxo

[Milwaukee Eight]

7 minutes ago, Oxo said:

I don't believe you are postings links. You complained about me doing so many times. I guess it is OK for you to do it. 

It is an easy way to provide info and reliable sources. 

YES, I approve this source!

The only links you shared that I object to are the ones that are political and bashing certain people. It’s not allowed here. It’s simple, not hard to understand. 

My link wasn’t political. 
 

Peace

 

M8

[Oxo]

5 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

The only links you shared that I object to are the ones that are political and bashing certain people. It’s not allowed here. It’s simple, not hard to understand. 

My link wasn’t political. 
 

Peace

 

M8

Peace? A couple of days ago on my 4th off July posting I tried to get us to agree to stand back. That lasted for a very short period of time. I stayed off of this forum for a couple of days to let it cool off. 

Again,  I agree not to post anything Political. I do believe links are valuable like I said above.

As for bashing, I am very careful in my wording to ensure that I am not bashing anyone. Your opinion,  as I see some of your postings which I think are 'bashing' as you call it,  but let it slide. 

Bypass my comments, I'll bypass yours. 

Agree?

Peace, Stay Safe.

[ToroAzul]

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200430/smokers-hospitalized-less-often-for-covid-19

 

https://www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20200615/An-inverse-relationship-between-smoking-and-COVID-19.aspx

 

https://hospitalhealthcare.com/covid-19/are-smokers-protected-from-covid-19/

 

 

[Casino Comp Chick]

18 hours ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

It seems to be working in Atlantic City. Numerous media sites as a source. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3283628001

 

M8

Not really. I gave it a shot over 4th of July weekend and didn’t like it so much that I cancelled my other reservations. I will go back when smoking is allowed in the casino.