Aus Traveller Posted September 7, 2020 #26 Share Posted September 7, 2020 48 minutes ago, 1025cruise said: Again, this article was a reprint from maybe a year ago? And, I sort of do agree with the writer. She bought under one promotion, and was told it will be another one. So I can understand her being upset. Not really sure I'd make a federal case out of it if it were me, but I can understand her being upset. Unless the article refers to a complaint made several years ago, the basic reasoning is incorrect. The complainant did not buy under one promotion and get another one. The 15 drinks a day limit has been in place for years. She bought the drinks package advertised as "all-inclusive drinks" NOT "all you can drink". She has put her own interpretation on the wording of Princess' promotion. Even before they put the 15-drink limit on, I don't think Princess advertised the drinks package as "all you can drink". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoak Posted September 7, 2020 #27 Share Posted September 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Aus Traveller said: Unless the article refers to a complaint made several years ago, the basic reasoning is incorrect. The complainant did not buy under one promotion and get another one. The 15 drinks a day limit has been in place for years. She bought the drinks package advertised as "all-inclusive drinks" NOT "all you can drink". She has put her own interpretation on the wording of Princess' promotion. Even before they put the 15-drink limit on, I don't think Princess advertised the drinks package as "all you can drink". It originally was no limit but they could cut you off if we’re drunk. The limit came in to avoid sharing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted September 7, 2020 #28 Share Posted September 7, 2020 9 hours ago, memoak said: It originally was no limit but they could cut you off if we’re drunk. The limit came in to avoid sharing As you say, originally there was no limit on drinks per day, but they stopped serving a passenger when they were drunk. Maybe this 'judgment' caused a lot of problems and it was simpler to put a limit on the drinks. The issue of sharing is an important point. But, back to the original point - Did Princess ever advertise "all you can drink". I cannot remember such advertising. All I can remember is "all inclusive". That is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldfashioncruiser Posted September 7, 2020 #29 Share Posted September 7, 2020 This is OLD NEWS!!!!! Back in 2017 they changed to 15 drinks. They did have some issues with people purchasing drinks for friends. Everything is documented and when someone ordered four different types of drinks in 30 minutes, a red light started flashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram290 Posted September 7, 2020 #30 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Every Cruise line I've enjoyed has had a drink limit. For years and years now. Get to know a few bar personal and you can enjoy better drinks😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserkenn Posted September 7, 2020 #31 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I wonder, though, if drinking 15 or more drinks in a day is good for anyone's body? Whether one is tipsy or not? Having said that, I would like to say that I do drink a bit of wine or beer. I'm not one who totally abstains. But let me add that I used to drink quite a bit more. Over the last couple of years, I have cut back to just a sip or two of wine or beer on Saturday and Sunday nights. In the process, I have lost 15 pounds, without trying. Think it over... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky TGO Posted September 8, 2020 #32 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) If I had 15 drinks 🥃🍹🍷in one day I probably would fall overboard. 😳 I do like having a drink with my friends. See Photo. Lew your going to like this one.😁 Tony Edited September 8, 2020 by Lucky TGO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potstech Posted September 8, 2020 #33 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Back on subject. OP there are meetings everyday to provide you with a solution to your drinking experiences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awhcruiser Posted September 8, 2020 #34 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/6/2020 at 8:34 AM, oldfashioncruiser said: And you problem is? You stole my question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldfashioncruiser Posted September 8, 2020 #35 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, awhcruiser said: You stole my question! darn auto correct. How did it go from the to you?🤷♀️ " And the problem is!" I have seen too many guys who were over served on the unlimited package. Not real fun to sit close to them and witness their rude comments to the crew, especially the waiters And their loud talking has ruined numerous dinners for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNJCruisers Posted September 8, 2020 #36 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Potstech said: Back on subject. OP there are meetings everyday to provide you with a solution to your drinking experiences. I will infer that the OP prefers unlimited drink packages that are available on other lines such as Celebrity, Royal and NCL as opposed to attending a friend's of Bill W meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted September 8, 2020 #37 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, SNJCruisers said: I will infer that the OP prefers unlimited drink packages that are available on other lines such as Celebrity, Royal and NCL as opposed to attending a friend's of Bill W meeting. having a choice, and personal responsibility, is a beautiful thing 🍷🥃🍸🛳️🐬🦄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky TGO Posted September 8, 2020 #38 Share Posted September 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, voljeep said: having a choice, and personal responsibility, is a beautiful thing 🍷🥃🍸🛳️🐬🦄 Some people have no control when it comes to drinking 🥃. I seen this guy in the pool on the Royal Princess and BTW your not supposed to drink in the pool. He was having one drink after another. He needed help getting out of the pool. His wife or girlfriend was getting him the drinks 🥃. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrym Posted September 8, 2020 #39 Share Posted September 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, Lucky TGO said: Some people have no control when it comes to drinking 🥃. I seen this guy in the pool on the Royal Princess and BTW your not supposed to drink in the pool. He was having one drink after another. He needed help getting out of the pool. His wife or girlfriend was getting him the drinks 🥃. Tony Why can't you drink at the pool as long as you are at the side, no-one ever stopped me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted September 8, 2020 #40 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gerrym said: Why can't you drink at the pool as long as you are at the side, no-one ever stopped me. Drinking may be ok but eating is another story. Many people just dumped their half eaten food and dirty plates all over the pool deck when a garbage can and collection tray are only 10 feet away. It was disgusting. Edited September 8, 2020 by sfaaa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisalta Posted September 8, 2020 #41 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Gerrym said: Why can't you drink at the pool as long as you are at the side, no-one ever stopped me. That is not what Tony typed. To quote Tony:- "I seen this guy in the pool on the Royal Princess and BTW your not supposed to drink in the pool." Edited September 8, 2020 by brisalta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potstech Posted September 8, 2020 #42 Share Posted September 8, 2020 But waiters will bring you drinks at the pool when you order them. "At the pool" covers on undefined area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNJCruisers Posted September 8, 2020 #43 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, sfaaa said: Drinking may be ok but eating is another story. Many people just dumped their half eaten food and dirty plates all over the pool deck when a garbage can and collection tray are only 10 feet away. It was disgusting. Once again card carrying members of the me generation surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky TGO Posted September 9, 2020 #44 Share Posted September 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Gerrym said: Why can't you drink at the pool as long as you are at the side, no-one ever stopped me. Hi Gerrym, ‘You can have a drink 🥃 at the pool and around the pool. But not ( IN ) the pool. Check out what I typed. Post # 38 Sorry if you misunderstood me. Tony 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulldustHHH Posted September 9, 2020 #45 Share Posted September 9, 2020 15 drinks a day limit?!? I spill that much! PS> JK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Yoda Posted September 9, 2020 #46 Share Posted September 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, BulldustHHH said: 15 drinks a day limit?!? I spill that much! I spill that much ... down my throat ;') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grego Posted September 9, 2020 #47 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Fun topic. It was always a process of doing the math comparing what we normally spend on drinks on the ship against what the increase in cruise fare was. Afterall, someone has to pay for the drinks and it isn't the cruise line. In the end it was always less expensive to buy our own drinks than purchasing the package.......until now. One of the reasons for not going with the package is that there was possibility of items of an alcoholic nature being brought aboard that reduced the bar tab further making the distance cost wise of buying the package even greater. With the advent of the beverage package, Princess was banking on most passengers never getting 15 drinks per day. With port days as a large number on most Caribbean and European itineraries, the drink opportunity time is reduced. The repositioning transatlantic and other areas provided the best opportunity to maximize the limit of the package. I believe that one of the reasons they decided to limit the number of drinks per day wasn't to keep people sober, it was to prevent the practice that some passengers were doing of getting drinks for those that didn't have the package. Think the "free laundry" for Elite that is abused. Doing the math again, a 7 day voyage offers the opportunity for 105 drinks total. At approximately $10 per drink, the total would be worth $1050. The increase in cruise fare to include the package isn't near that amount and includes other perks as well that are possibly more attractive to some passengers. For us, the Best Value is the better deal than the Best Price. The Best Value includes the drink package, WiFi, gratuities and soda package for minors for a minor upcharge. Look at a 3 day Caribbean voyage in a balcony cabin. The BP cost is $419 vs $539 for BV pricing. $120 difference that includes 45 drinks, gratuities and WiFi! The ratio is similar for 7 day voyages as well. ($250 difference in fare price that includes gratuities, WiFi and drinks). Seems to be a no-brainer. Finally, the initial argument was that Princess changed from "unlimited" to a "limited" amount per day and that should be challenged or they would never sail with Princess again. Might have been a good argument except for the clause that Princess has the right to make changes to any program of offering at their discretion which is what they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMGS247 Posted September 9, 2020 #48 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Always a fun topic. I hit the limit once. I've been very close a number of other times I'm sure...they're called sea days. I drink vodka-tonics and the pre-defined pour amounts make for a pretty weak drink. Don't get me wrong, it's plenty of alcohol, but starting around lunchtime and covering a 12 hour period noon to midnight, it's barely more than 1 weak drink per hour to get there....it does add up, but it's not that difficult to hit on a lazy sea day. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1025cruise Posted September 9, 2020 #49 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Just to note, on Elliot in the comments in the article it was brought up that the article was a repost from 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserkenn Posted September 9, 2020 #50 Share Posted September 9, 2020 14 hours ago, Lucky TGO said: Hi Gerrym, ‘You can have a drink 🥃 at the pool and around the pool. But not ( IN ) the pool. Check out what I typed. Post # 38 Sorry if you misunderstood me. Tony I agree with Tony, about not drinking IN the pool. Thanks, Tony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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