logan25 Posted March 24, 2021 #51 Share Posted March 24, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 6:44 PM, HowardK said: Does anyone really want to risk being stuck on a ship for 17 days like last year? You say that like it’s a bad thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabincop Posted March 24, 2021 #52 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, logan25 said: You say that like it’s a bad thing. It’s not for me. I’ve been on 55 cruises. Hit a hurricane on one. I’d live on a ship if I could 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnoliaBlossom Posted March 24, 2021 #53 Share Posted March 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Envelope21 said: OMG! Good one!! But can: they reduce my student,loan debt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesimapirate Posted March 24, 2021 #54 Share Posted March 24, 2021 28 minutes ago, cabincop said: Things have changed as far as response to Covid. No one is going to get “stuck” on a ship anymore. Last year was totally different Depends what you mean by "stuck on a ship". You're probably correct in that cruises won't be extended so that everyone is quarantined. However, they will probably cancel ports so you're in essence stuck on the ship for the entire length of the cruise. I know we all book a cruise for different reasons but I'm one who considers the ports of call and pick itineraries that I actually want to experience vs just enjoying the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff79 Posted March 24, 2021 #55 Share Posted March 24, 2021 at the german NCL page is the message now too. But i don´t think they start here soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare KeithJenner Posted March 24, 2021 #56 Share Posted March 24, 2021 6 hours ago, Yesimapirate said: Depends what you mean by "stuck on a ship". You're probably correct in that cruises won't be extended so that everyone is quarantined. However, they will probably cancel ports so you're in essence stuck on the ship for the entire length of the cruise. I know we all book a cruise for different reasons but I'm one who considers the ports of call and pick itineraries that I actually want to experience vs just enjoying the ship. Obviously for the vast majority of people who cruise the ports of call are very important, but that in itself doesn’t mean that a week on a ship without being able to get off would be a disaster. I suspect that I consider the itineraries every bit as much as you when booking a cruise, but I still really enjoyed both of the transatlantics that I’ve done (7 days and 10 days with no stops), and right now I would certainly go on a 7 day cruise with no stops. Not my first choice, but great every now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare KeithJenner Posted March 24, 2021 #57 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Steff79 said: at the german NCL page is the message now too. But i don´t think they start here soon. Yes, we have it in the UK now as well. It is possible they could do something here, but I suspect the news will be more general about cruises late 2021/early 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted March 24, 2021 #58 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Steff79 said: at the german NCL page is the message now too. But i don´t think they start here soon. 27 minutes ago, KeithJenner said: Yes, we have it in the UK now as well. It is possible they could do something here, but I suspect the news will be more general about cruises late 2021/early 2022. NCL is suppose to announce their redeployment and restart plan tomorrow (or Friday) according to their agents (who I have always said know nothing). They were busily cancelling cruises (including mine) today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare HBCcruiser Posted March 24, 2021 #59 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Well this news puts a dampener on things. Perhaps NCL was waiting to see what the CDC said? Looks like I'll be booking on RCL or (hopefully) NCL if they reposition for June/July sailings. https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24635-cdc-says-it-won-t-drop-conditional-sail-order.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallux Posted March 24, 2021 #60 Share Posted March 24, 2021 @HBCcruiser doesn't mean a cruise line can't comply with the CSO and start sailing. I guess that means the CDC would have to pony up the rest of the requirements for the embarkation ports though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oteixeira Posted March 24, 2021 #61 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, hallux said: @HBCcruiser doesn't mean a cruise line can't comply with the CSO and start sailing. I guess that means the CDC would have to pony up the rest of the requirements for the embarkation ports though... That is not going to happen. They have no intention of giving the technical requirements, this was just a no sail continuation. Today's statement basically means unless the rest of the government drops the "this is a pandemic" then we are not sailing in the US until November AT THE EARLIEST. That being said, screw the CDC, show me the NCL cruises from other ports in the Caribbean/Mexico, and I will get on one. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare HBCcruiser Posted March 24, 2021 #62 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, oteixeira said: That is not going to happen. They have no intention of giving the technical requirements, this was just a no sail continuation. Today's statement basically means unless the rest of the government drops the "this is a pandemic" then we are not sailing in the US until November AT THE EARLIEST. That being said, screw the CDC, show me the NCL cruises from other ports in the Caribbean/Mexico, and I will get on one. I'll be with you! If NCL doesn't act fast it is the Bermuda RCCL in July for us. Bookings start at the end of this month. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowardK Posted March 25, 2021 #63 Share Posted March 25, 2021 What I mean earlier was being contained in your cabin for 17 days, not being allowed to leave the ship, having meals placed in front of your door etc. . Obviously, they will have better protocols in place on sailing resumes but that was my concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oteixeira Posted March 25, 2021 #64 Share Posted March 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, HowardK said: What I mean earlier was being contained in your cabin for 17 days, not being allowed to leave the ship, having meals placed in front of your door etc. . Obviously, they will have better protocols in place on sailing resumes but that was my concern. Yea, that is not happening going forward. They have had cases on the ships sailing already, and none of those ships became floating lock ups where food was given to you at the door (RCL has said they had 10 cases since restarting). So basically, the cruises wont get extended if there is a positive case anymore, and you wont be locked in your room. The science showed that was a mistake, and it has been corrected. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjkandlak Posted March 25, 2021 #65 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I don't know NCL's timetable but see Celebrity announced they will begin Greek cruises in June: https://www.celebritycruisespresscenter.com/press-release/1209/celebrity-cruises-announces-summer-world-debut-in-greece-for-highly-anticipated-celebrity-apex-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Dave Posted March 25, 2021 #66 Share Posted March 25, 2021 If NCL does not get their act together soon, these boards will be a ghost town, as everyone will be over on the RCCL, Celebrity and Crystal boards, discussing their upcoming cruises on them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oteixeira Posted March 25, 2021 #67 Share Posted March 25, 2021 RCL announced another ship in service today, Celebrity Apex going out of Greece announced today. That company is not playing around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachiem Posted March 25, 2021 #68 Share Posted March 25, 2021 We have an 11 night from Rome around Greece booked with NCL in Sept. I wish they'd start making some announcements soon. I feel loathed to cancel as we got such a good price on it a couple of years ago when we booked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare HBCcruiser Posted March 25, 2021 #69 Share Posted March 25, 2021 This letter from the American Society of Travel Advisors to the Biden Administration is Spot ON! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Dave Posted March 25, 2021 #70 Share Posted March 25, 2021 25 minutes ago, HBCcruiser said: This letter from the American Society of Travel Advisors to the Biden Administration is Spot ON! This is spot on. Enough is enough. Either prove scientifically that Covid can only be spread by vaccinated people on a cruise ship, or shut down everything else too. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffd64 Posted March 25, 2021 #71 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 5:54 PM, coastcat said: "the Homeporting concept means that a cruise line would use Bermuda as their home base for a cruise to nowhere or their private island to our south, for three or four months; all passengers and crew would be fully immunised and subject to Bermuda’s Ministry of Health COVID-19 protocols. Passengers would fly into Bermuda to pick up their cruise and have the option to book a pre-and/or post-hotel stay and enjoy Bermuda longer." Oh, I'd be lunging for the Book button if NCL announced sailings out of Bermuda. A 3-day cruise to nowhere combined with a few days in Bermuda would be awesome. The only sticking point for me (er, no pun intended) is that I'm so far down the vaccine eligibility list that it could be the end of summer by the time my immune system is ready for travel. All US adults supposedly will be vaccinated by May 1 according to the current administration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHazelwood Posted March 25, 2021 #72 Share Posted March 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, cliffd64 said: All US adults supposedly will be vaccinated by May 1 according to the current administration... I believe that all adults will be eligible for vaccination by May 1, not vaccinated. I think May 30 was the goal for everybody who wanted a vaccination to get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuliHuli Posted March 25, 2021 #73 Share Posted March 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, GA Dave said: This is spot on. Enough is enough. Either prove scientifically that Covid can only be spread by vaccinated people on a cruise ship, or shut down everything else too. One way we in America can add our voices to ASTA and CLIA's efforts is to write our respective Senators and Congressmen. It is easy to do online now: Here is the link for Senators:https://www.senate.gov/?Class=1 Here is the link for Congress: https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative Feel free to clone the text below that I sent to my representatives yesterday: It has been almost five months since the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued its framework for cruise lines return to sailing. Since then, the cruise industry has been in a holding pattern in the U.S., with sailings in the largest cruise market in the world still banned, with no clear guidance on the horizon. Meanwhile, the three largest cruise lines sailing out of U.S. ports have spent millions of their own money upgrading their ships with improved HVAC systems that virtually eliminate the spread of the COVID-19 virus through the ship’s internal environments. While some lines, like Royal Caribbean and Crystal Cruise, have committed to restarting out of non-U.S. ports, and more are reportedly working to establish new home ports away from the overbearing U.S. CDC’s reach, now is the time for the CDC to lift its Conditional Sail Order that is preventing the industry from restarting in the U.S. Cruise Lines International Association (CLIA) president and CEO Kelly Craighead wants the CDC to allow for cruise operations from U.S. ports to resume in early-July, a timeframe that is in line with President Biden’s forecast for when the country will be “closer to normal,” the group said. Cruising has safely restarted outside of the U.S.—nearly 400,000 passengers have already sailed to date in more than 10 major cruise markets including Europe, Asia, and the South Pacific—proving that the industry is able to do the same stateside. In fact, less than 50 cases have been reported during those restarts, a significantly lower rate than on-land vacations or in any other mode of transportation. “These voyages were successfully completed with industry-leading protocols that have effectively mitigated the spread of COVID-19. Additional sailings are planned in the Mediterranean and Caribbean later this spring and summer,” Craighead said. “The outdated CSO, which was issued almost five months ago, does not reflect the industry’s proven advancements and success operating in other parts of the world, nor the advent of vaccines, and unfairly treats cruises differently. Cruise lines should be treated the same as other travel, tourism, hospitality, and entertainment sectors,” Craighead added. It is time to end the CDC’s stranglehold on an industry that provides millions of good paying jobs and earns billions in revenue in the U.S. market. Stop the CDC ANTI-CRUISE MADNESS! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seany527 Posted March 25, 2021 #74 Share Posted March 25, 2021 4 hours ago, GA Dave said: If NCL does not get their act together soon, these boards will be a ghost town, as everyone will be over on the RCCL, Celebrity and Crystal boards, discussing their upcoming cruises on them. I booked my first cruise with Celebrity today. It will be my first cruise I’ve had on another line in 4 years. I kinda feel like I’m cheating on NCL but they have had just as long to get a start up in motion as all the other lines. They failed me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njhorseman Posted March 25, 2021 #75 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, cliffd64 said: All US adults supposedly will be vaccinated by May 1 according to the current administration... No. 30 minutes ago, CaptainHazelwood said: I believe that all adults will be eligible for vaccination by May 1, not vaccinated. I think May 30 was the goal for everybody who wanted a vaccination to get one. Also no. There will be enough vaccine available by the end of May to vaccinate every adult who wants to be vaccinated, but the actual process of vaccination will take longer...perhaps into early September. https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2021/03/12/when-will-everyone-be-vaccinated-for-covid-19-when-will-we-reach-us-herd-immunity-projection/6840512002/ "The White House says the U.S. will have enough vaccine supply to cover every American adult by the end of May, although it will take longer to administer those vaccines. That's about 500 million doses, depending on what share of the vaccines require two shots." Edited March 25, 2021 by njhorseman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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