Afraid of Quarantaine/Isolation in OV or inside - consider cancelling ?

[Denny01]

52 minutes ago, tinaincc said:

It is perfectly appropriate to be worried about catching C19 especially on a cruise ship where you would be at the mercy of the ship ever-evolving protocols. Isn't it what we all have been trying NOT to get for the past two years? It is also entirely reasonable to ASK what contractual obligations are in such situations.

 

Instead of making your fellow cruisers out to be malicious why not try to see the glass half full and assume positive intent.  Or, better yet, not feel the need to post your virtue on posts that don't apply to your specific viewpoints?

 

 

I’d not describe many of the referenced posts in any way of being a ‘glass half full’, but with no positive intent except how to get around not being quarantined, especially not trying to be tested. 

36 minutes ago, RichYak said:

As I imagine you thought you were as you scold fellow CCers.

No, I didn’t see many of them as ‘well meaning’, only self serving.

 

And Yes, I’m well aware I’ve done the same. You are both right and I went too far, but this is getting to become the new ‘some cruise line is intentionally trying to ruin my cruise for no reason’. Yes, we need Balconies if quarantined. 

 

Den

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[Denny01]

Oops. 

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[DirtyDawg]

Anyone concerned with being isolated in an OV or Inside cabin if you happen to contract Covid while on a cruise can simply cancel and book another type of vacation instead. We were at an AI earlier this year and they just moved the infected folks to a building away from the beach. But at least they all had balconies to get fresh air and talk to their neighbours, and most could still see the ocean!

 

Like fish, there are plenty of vacation options in / near the sea.🙂

 

 

[WonderMan3]

8 hours ago, SparklyPinkCruiser said:

What this actually does is deter people from being honest about their symptoms. People would rather hunker down in their own suite balcony and wait it out rather than get tested and isolate by themselves in an inside cabin.

You won't get away with that though. After maybe a day the room attendant will become suspicious that you are not leaving your cabin and Celebrity will send someone to investigate and will force you to get tested if they see you with symptoms.

[tinaincc]

6 minutes ago, DirtyDawg said:

Anyone concerned with being isolated in an OV or Inside cabin if you happen to contract Covid while on a cruise can simply cancel and book another type of vacation instead. We were at an AI earlier this year and they just moved the infected folks to a building away from the beach. But at least they all had balconies to get fresh air and talk to their neighbours, and most could still see the ocean!

 

Like fish, there are plenty of vacation options in / near the sea.🙂

 

 

This is precisely the point of the original poster's question...we all are aware of which types of vacations available the post was meant to discuss if people are actually doing so.

[WonderMan3]

7 hours ago, Virginia100 said:

My issue is now the 1 day pretest in Italy. A long way to go and airfare paid to test positive there and have it all fall apart. Cannot use CWC as it requires 48 hour notice and Covid  assistance ends 4/30. You have zero protection in this instance,

You would need protection from travel insurance that covers you from testing positive for Covid.

[WonderMan3]

If the policy for quarantining in a cabin other than your own is still in effect by the time I need to make final payment for my next cruises in May of 2023 then I will cancel. 

[Guppy99]

2 hours ago, ace2542 said:

And those infected staff likely spread it back up the chain to the passengers on the next cruise surely?

Possibly, but they are tested to so often and they were double masked in January, I think far more likely that this is between passengers.

[Guppy99]

22 minutes ago, WonderMan3 said:

You won't get away with that though. After maybe a day the room attendant will become suspicious that you are not leaving your cabin and Celebrity will send someone to investigate and will force you to get tested if they see you with symptoms.

Room stewards are prohibited from cleaning while you remain in you cabin. Doing so needlessly exposes them and consequently other passengers.  If you knowingly do such a thing you should be pit in a windowless room and thrown off the ship at the next port. (not you specifically, the general you)

[Loracpin2]

16 minutes ago, WonderMan3 said:

If the policy for quarantining in a cabin other than your own is still in effect by the time I need to make final payment for my next cruises in May of 2023 then I will cancel. 

So will we for our January 2023 BEYOND sailing. 

[Guppy99]

45 minutes ago, Ommadawn said:

 

I wouldn't have anywhere near as much problem quarantining as long as it was in the cabin for which I paid.

lol  don't cruise.  Don;t book a year in advance and them be start complaining because you opted to do so. You do not have some sort of inalienable right to be in a suite or veranda cabin even if you paid for it, because you took a risk and too bad it didn't go the way you wanted. It is not possible to make that kind of guarantee and keep the healthy passengers healthy. 

[canderson]

57 minutes ago, papaflamingo said:

Yes, but the only people who would be in contact are the person's party and possibly if on a bus on shore.  It's not like they test the whole ship. 

That's demonstrably untrue based on 1st hand reports by many here who have been positive and by those caught up in subsequent contact tracing.  Really have sympathy for those on B2+B cruises who get left at port at the end of their current leg, even when testing negative!   Martini bar, dinner table, theater, casino, dining, and a whole host of other venues reported as visited by positives are reviewed in video.

[gordylad]

this topic will probably get shut down like other interesting topics

[canderson]

57 minutes ago, ace2542 said:

Then surely testing should be daily or twice daily even?

One line actually does test daily.

[sgmn]

1 hour ago, ace2542 said:

How is it getting onboard then? 

Because you can test negative for several days after contact with an infected person before you turn positive. In that time you can pass it to others. 

 

I had my contact on a Monday , on Tuesday I learn that my contact was positive. I tested every day, all negative until the Friday when I got a positive result . I then isolated in my bedroom but had already passed it onto two other people by then (they tested positive a few days later). 

[sunlover33]

I have no problem risking catching covid on a cruise

I have no problem testing daily.

I have no problem contacting the medical centre to say I feel unwell 

I have no problem being confined to a balcony cabin if I test positive 

 

BUT I have a real problem not knowing Celebrity’s policy before I board and where I may end up if I am positive. OV or even as I have read on Millennium in an inside cabin. 
Celebrity needs to be open and transparent about their covid policy, it’s not enough to say “well if you don’t want to take the risk don’t cruise”. If we all do that there will be no cruise ships in the future. Just be honest, transparent, so people can make an informed choice and maybe consider looking after the people who are the future for your industry. 

[wrk2cruise]

9 minutes ago, sunlover33 said:

OV or even as I have read on Millennium in an inside cabin. 

 

Has this been verified.  I saw one post but it was not first hand knowledge.  I suspect it's untrue but I don't have first hand knowledge either.

[sunlover33]

8 minutes ago, wrk2cruise said:

 

Has this been verified.  I saw one post but it was not first hand knowledge.  I suspect it's untrue but I don't have first hand knowledge either.

My understanding is the poster had spoken to a senior member  of staff onboard to enquire where positive cases would be isolated and was informed it would be in an inside stateroom. I an not able to verify but have no reason to doubt the post either. 

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[Ommadawn]

46 minutes ago, Guppy99 said:

lol  don't cruise.  Don;t book a year in advance and them be start complaining because you opted to do so. You do not have some sort of inalienable right to be in a suite or veranda cabin even if you paid for it, because you took a risk and too bad it didn't go the way you wanted. It is not possible to make that kind of guarantee and keep the healthy passengers healthy. 

 

No. You seem to think that there are only two options: accept whatever they throw our way or completely walk away. There is a third option: try to change things for the better. Without people choosing the third option, the world would still be stuck in the Dark Ages in misery and poverty. I choose the third option.

 

I am going on my trip and, unless I test positive, I am going on my cruise. I want to support the industry that I love. I want there to be cruising in the future. I have waited three years for this trip and I am going on it because it is on my wife's bucket list and we don't know how much longer she will be able to travel on trips like this. I just don't want to be treated like a leper if I come down with a cold or have a false positive test result.

[Gracie115]

28 minutes ago, sunlover33 said:

 . Just be honest, transparent, so people can make an informed choice and maybe consider looking after the people who are the future for your industry. 

 

This says it all in a nut shell. Thank you.

[Virginia100]

1 hour ago, WonderMan3 said:

You would need protection from travel insurance that covers you from testing positive for Covid.

True, looking at a very good policy now at $676. 

[Guppy99]

18 minutes ago, Ommadawn said:

 

No. You seem to think that there are only two options: accept whatever they throw our way or completely walk away. There is a third option: try to change things for the better. Without people choosing the third option, the world would still be stuck in the Dark Ages in misery and poverty. I choose the third option.

 

I am going on my trip and, unless I test positive, I am going on my cruise. I want to support the industry that I love. I want there to be cruising in the future. I have waited three years for this trip and I am going on it because it is on my wife's bucket list and we don't know how much longer she will be able to travel on trips like this. I just don't want to be treated like a leper if I come down with a cold or have a false positive test result.

There have been zero practical suggestions made that make sense. Just some don't like the way it is because it doesn't suit them personally.  Contrary to what some think, it really isn't all about them.

[Guppy99]

31 minutes ago, sunlover33 said:

 senior member  of staff onboard 

This really means nothing. There are numerous factors involved:

- how many passengers onboard

- passenger to staff ratio onboard

- how many vacancies

- what ship it is

- what the itinerary is

- current protocols

 

What some anonymous staff person "thinks" and what is at any given time on any given ship is most likely different.

And who knows what this person knows as opposed to what s/he thinks.

I suspect there are very few persons who know the actual facts at any given moment.

 

Which is likely why more information is not available.

 

[Guppy99]

2 hours ago, ace2542 said:

Then surely testing should be daily or twice daily even?

and who exaactly would be responsible for those logistics and cost?

[canderson]

8 minutes ago, Guppy99 said:

and who exaactly would be responsible for those logistics and cost?

Viking does it daily on 'their' dime ... not that their fares don't cover it adequately, of course.