Rare twangster Posted April 9, 2023 #1451 Share Posted April 9, 2023 (edited) Somewhat related article with John Murray, CEO of Port Canaveral. He talks about ships plugging into shore power and some of the challenges with that particularly for PCN. Then he mentions the idea of plugging in an LNG ship into shore power and why that concept is strange since Florida's grid is only ~75% gas. So, we have 2 LNG ships out of our 13 at Port Canaveral. We will have another one coming in '25 that's already known, Disney Wish. Two others are coming that aren't already known. But they'll be LNG powered too. Disney Wish and Mardi Gras are LNG powered. Two more are coming. One of those is probably another DCL new build that hasn't been named yet. Maybe both of the future LNG ships are DCL new builds but that would place all DCL new builds into PCN. Maybe one of the future LNG ships is from another line, like Royal. https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/a-conversation-john-murray-ceo-and-director-of-port-canaveral Edited April 9, 2023 by twangster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted April 9, 2023 #1452 Share Posted April 9, 2023 15 hours ago, springaussie said: Anthem could do Tokyo or Hong Kong! Another possibility is Australia if the Private Island opens late 2024. Cancelling the home port for Wonder in Asia (which was built for the Asian market) is just one thing. But we are happy to have her here in Port Canaveral now. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted April 9, 2023 #1453 Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 hours ago, twangster said: Somewhat related article with John Murray, CEO of Port Canaveral. He talks about ships plugging into shore power and some of the challenges with that particularly for PCN. Then he mentions the idea of plugging in an LNG ship into shore power and why that concept is strange since Florida's grid is only ~75% gas. So, we have 2 LNG ships out of our 13 at Port Canaveral. We will have another one coming in '25 that's already known, Disney Wish. Two others are coming that aren't already known. But they'll be LNG powered too. Disney Wish and Mardi Gras are LNG powered. Two more are coming. One of those is probably another DCL new build that hasn't been named yet. Maybe both of the future LNG ships are DCL new builds but that would place all DCL new builds into PCN. Maybe one of the future LNG ships is from another line, like Royal. https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/a-conversation-john-murray-ceo-and-director-of-port-canaveral Or from NCL, or from MSC… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted April 9, 2023 #1454 Share Posted April 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Saab4444 said: Or from NCL, or from MSC… MSC World class is heading to Miami once the new terminal is built. Miami is where MSC is focusing their efforts to conquer America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad455 Posted April 9, 2023 #1455 Share Posted April 9, 2023 19 hours ago, sgmn said: Does this mean we may have her in UK overwinter 24/25 until her dry dock? That's what I heard. Then she'll head to Asia after her drydock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted April 9, 2023 #1456 Share Posted April 9, 2023 10 hours ago, island lady said: Cancelling the home port for Wonder in Asia (which was built for the Asian market) is just one thing. But we are happy to have her here in Port Canaveral now. 🙂 Remember Wonder was built with some Chinese money. I would love to know what agreement Royal came up with the people or companies from China who provided the cash before Covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted April 10, 2023 Author #1457 Share Posted April 10, 2023 52 minutes ago, springaussie said: Remember Wonder was built with some Chinese money. I would love to know what agreement Royal came up with the people or companies from China who provided the cash before Covid. RCI’s ships are usually financed via European banks. The ship may have been destined for China but pretty sure there was no direct Chinese financing involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted April 10, 2023 #1458 Share Posted April 10, 2023 6 hours ago, springaussie said: Remember Wonder was built with some Chinese money. I would love to know what agreement Royal came up with the people or companies from China who provided the cash before Covid. It was built with German money (credits from Gernan banks and guarantees from German government) but not from China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted April 10, 2023 #1459 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I did read years ago there was Chinese financial backing but if there was ,they are probably glad the money has moved out of china. I’m not a commercial banker But looking at this the money came from everywhere and anywhere. Wonder of the is owned by Wonder of the seas LLC . https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/884887/000088488722000028/a2022q2exhibit1028.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted April 10, 2023 #1460 Share Posted April 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Chiliburn said: I did read years ago there was Chinese financial backing but if there was ,they are probably glad the money has moved out of china. I’m not a commercial banker But looking at this the money came from everywhere and anywhere. Wonder of the is owned by Wonder of the seas LLC . https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/884887/000088488722000028/a2022q2exhibit1028.htm Bank of Nova Scotia is Canadian. This loan was their part of the debt they accumulated during the pandemic to stay afloat and it lists virtually every ship in the RCG fleet. That's different from the financing used to do the initial new ship build. Most ships are single LLCs. This is used across the shipping industry, not just cruise ships. It limits liability when major accidents occur. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted April 10, 2023 #1461 Share Posted April 10, 2023 13 hours ago, springaussie said: Remember Wonder was built with some Chinese money. I would love to know what agreement Royal came up with the people or companies from China who provided the cash before Covid. Want to hazard a guess as to how much of the U.S. property is financed through China? 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted April 10, 2023 #1462 Share Posted April 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, island lady said: Want to hazard a guess as to how much of the U.S. property is financed through China? 😉 They are currently holding more than $1 trillion of U.S. Treasury debt, for what that's worth... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted April 10, 2023 #1463 Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, orville99 said: They are currently holding more than $1 trillion of U.S. Treasury debt, for what that's worth... Should we start taking Chinese language lessons? 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted April 10, 2023 #1464 Share Posted April 10, 2023 On 4/9/2023 at 4:39 AM, Ethanol95 said: They have already published there will be no casino onboard. https://www.asgam.com/index.php/2022/11/18/disney-cruise-line-completes-acquisition-of-genting-hong-kongs-global-dream-cruise-ship/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted April 10, 2023 #1465 Share Posted April 10, 2023 4 hours ago, island lady said: Should we start taking Chinese language lessons? 😉 No need, just start using TikTok. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted April 10, 2023 #1466 Share Posted April 10, 2023 26 minutes ago, twangster said: No need, just start using TikTok. LOL....while it still is available. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted April 10, 2023 #1467 Share Posted April 10, 2023 8 hours ago, island lady said: Should we start taking Chinese language lessons? 😉 Start eating rice and give those cheese burgers up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted April 11, 2023 #1468 Share Posted April 11, 2023 15 hours ago, Chiliburn said: Start eating rice and give those cheese burgers up. LOL! I eat veggie burgers...and love tofu. I have DH on board with the veggie burgers, but he won't eat tofu. 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted April 12, 2023 #1469 Share Posted April 12, 2023 A rumour getting around about Utopia. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted April 12, 2023 #1470 Share Posted April 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Chiliburn said: A rumour getting around about Utopia. A rumor is right. This person that posted that quote can't even get their facts straight. 🧐 Wonder is here in Port Canaveral...not Port Everglades. We were on for her first entry into her new home port here while on her TA last fall coming from Barcelona. Wonder will be here right on through 2025. I would not believe much of what cruiseexplorer posts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewFoundLander Posted April 12, 2023 #1471 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Just an FYI incase anyone else was waiting. 22 night Serenade westbound TA for Aug 24 opened today, suites and balcony already sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted April 12, 2023 #1472 Share Posted April 12, 2023 What schedule opens for booking next except Australia please...Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted April 12, 2023 #1473 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, DrewFoundLander said: Just an FYI incase anyone else was waiting. 22 night Serenade westbound TA for Aug 24 opened today, suites and balcony already sold out. True, Bunch the smaller legs available on Royal now, Figure there isnt many Balcony/Suite Cabins and many sold on the longer World Cruise Edited April 12, 2023 by ONECRUISER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCEaton Posted April 12, 2023 #1474 Share Posted April 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, ONECRUISER said: True, Bunch the smaller legs available on Royal now, Figure there isnt many Balcony/Suite Cabins and many sold on the longer World Cruise Looks like all Balcony/Suite sold out yesterday or early this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted April 12, 2023 #1475 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I booked the first 1/4 leg (now a series of 3 legs) early in the morning the day they first came out. Had next cruise on Odyssey watching it and immediately put a hold on balcony cabin for me at 2 am. Even at that early time...if you did not get in for whole cruise, (they delayed 1/4 leg bookings) all the suites from JS and up were sold out. I have been stuck at balcony ever since. Can't upgrade, nothing available. Not sure why anyone would think the suites would suddenly open up now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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