LJJQ Posted August 1 #1 Share Posted August 1 I just heard this afternoon the Royal Caribbean expects to build smaller ships! For those of us who remember smaller ships were part of the Celebrity Fleet! They would sail to Bermuda and not just the Dockyards! It would be great if Royal Caribbean Corporation could build a couple of these ships for Celebrity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1025cruise Posted August 1 #2 Share Posted August 1 What's the definition of smaller ship? I doubt they are going to be building something small enough that can go to Hamilton. Most likely, they mean not something as big as Oasis or bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mom says Posted August 1 #3 Share Posted August 1 Yeah, I'd like to know what they consider smaller, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHEZMARYLOU Posted August 1 #4 Share Posted August 1 I think Hamilton and St. Georges banned most cruise ships even before Zenith quit sailing. I don't see RC or Celebrity building ships this small. The $$$ is in bigger and "better". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la_croisiere_s'amuse Posted August 2 #5 Share Posted August 2 1 hour ago, 1025cruise said: What's the definition of smaller ship? I doubt they are going to be building something small enough that can go to Hamilton. Most likely, they mean not something as big as Oasis or bigger. Yes, based on comments from Royal's executive management team, "Project Discovery" is likely to be somewhere around the size of Radiance or Voyager classes. In other words, similar to much of the existing Celebrity fleet. 😉 Of course, nothing official has been announced yet, so only time will tell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare markeb Posted August 2 #6 Share Posted August 2 I remember a time when Radiance was considered a large ship... The current S/E class are probably Celebrity's sweet spot. You don't necessarily get a proportionate reduction in cost or staffing below that level. I'd see them concentrating more on shipboard experience and fuel efficiency (and types for destinations restricting emissions and fuel types) than reducing size. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted August 2 #7 Share Posted August 2 @LJJQ, you can get exactly what you're looking for IF you're willing to sail to the Galapagos Islands My WAG (Wild A$$ Guess) is the new leadership will want to make a splash with a ship around the size of the stretched E-Class. We have to remember the new leadership created many short Caribbean sailings, added CoCo Cay and Port Canaveral. I personally don't think that's a bad thing but know many around here do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PTC DAWG Posted August 2 #8 Share Posted August 2 1 hour ago, mom says said: Yeah, I'd like to know what they consider smaller, too Smaller, Google is your friend…replacing older ships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NMTraveller Posted August 2 #9 Share Posted August 2 I would guess that they are going from their large large megaship size to the E class megaship size ... Smaller, but still too large IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NMTraveller Posted August 2 #10 Share Posted August 2 I might consider Royal if they got rid of the waterslides and actually did build an M class ship size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 2 #11 Share Posted August 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, NutsAboutGolf said: We have to remember the new leadership created many short Caribbean sailings, added CoCo Cay and Port Canaveral. I personally don't think that's a bad thing but know many around here do Not bad, but nothing we'd ever have any interest in doing. I'd have to go back a LOT of years to find a cruise where we've been aboard less than 13 nights. Edited August 2 by canderson typoz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Dan Posted August 2 #12 Share Posted August 2 In four years time all four Vision Class ships will be at the 30 year mark, in ten years time time the same can be said for the five Voyager Class and four Radiance Class ships so although this new class won't be as small as the Vision Class they need to start building replacement ships in the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeRick Posted August 2 #13 Share Posted August 2 According to the scuttlebutt going around on the RCCL board, comments from ship's officers presumably in the know, the Discovery Class will be around 90,000 T which is M-Class size. But it is all unconfirmed at this point. I personally hope it is true! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hegal Posted August 2 #14 Share Posted August 2 21 hours ago, CHEZMARYLOU said: I think Hamilton and St. Georges banned most cruise ships even before Zenith quit sailing. I don't see RC or Celebrity building ships this small. The $$$ is in bigger and "better". Hamilton and St. George have not banned ships. Small ships from Oceania and other cruise lines still call there. I have been to both since Zenith. It is size that matters. The new ships RCI builds are likely going to be too large to dock at Hamilton and St George. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted August 2 #15 Share Posted August 2 19 minutes ago, hegal said: Hamilton and St. George have not banned ships. Small ships from Oceania and other cruise lines still call there. I have been to both since Zenith. It is size that matters. The new ships RCI builds are likely going to be too large to dock at Hamilton and St George. To piggyback off this, ports are wanted to limit overall capacity, if all the big cruise lines start sailing with smaller ships, they'll likely tighten the rules to further reduce capacity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycruiser80 Posted August 3 #16 Share Posted August 3 Hamilton and St. George have size restrictions due to geographic landforms. Max tonnage and length for Hamilton is around 700 feet long with a max tonnage around 55K. St. George max tonnage around 50K or less with a length of around 700 feet. Sadly, I highly doubt Celebrity will ever design a ship with those dimensions again. Instead , you will find those size ships with the higher end brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nado44 Posted August 3 #17 Share Posted August 3 I heard a senior officer recently say that Project Discovery would be focused on the new build of two smaller ships primarily for the Port of Tampa. One RCL and one X. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NMTraveller Posted August 3 #18 Share Posted August 3 (edited) Well I think that over time some of the more popular ports are going to restrict the size of ships going in. Perhaps this is a consideration... Edited August 3 by NMTraveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouChamp Posted August 3 #19 Share Posted August 3 Aloha. Have been blessed to cruise since 1971 and with Celebrity since its inception. As many have posted, countless cruise to Bermuda years ago included docking on Front Street for a few days. It was really special but of course times have changed as the larger ships preclude this pleasure. The smaller luxury lines can fit which we also enjoy but unfortunately I doubt Celebrity will build a Zenith class vessel again for such purpose. But who knows. Have been sailing the QM2 since 2004 and I remember that prior to her launch everyone said the QM2 was the last liner. Smooth sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted August 3 #20 Share Posted August 3 8 hours ago, Nado44 said: I heard a senior officer recently say that Project Discovery would be focused on the new build of two smaller ships primarily for the Port of Tampa. One RCL and one X. That would be welcome news..Connie is/ was a great ship but aging with no major updates. We would def book a newer ship! Hope this comes to fruition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark46 Posted August 3 #21 Share Posted August 3 On 8/1/2024 at 7:59 PM, CHEZMARYLOU said: I think Hamilton and St. Georges banned most cruise ships even before Zenith quit sailing. I don't see RC or Celebrity building ships this small. The $$$ is in bigger and "better". Oceania has cruise that go into Hamilton and St George, some out of Boston and some out of New York. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTCruiser76 Posted August 3 #22 Share Posted August 3 3 hours ago, mark46 said: Oceania has cruise that go into Hamilton and St George, some out of Boston and some out of New York. We are trying Oceania on this itinerary next July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. B. Posted August 4 #23 Share Posted August 4 On 8/2/2024 at 6:12 AM, TeeRick said: According to the scuttlebutt going around on the RCCL board, comments from ship's officers presumably in the know, the Discovery Class will be around 90,000 T which is M-Class size. But it is all unconfirmed at this point. I personally hope it is true! They may be M class size but if so they will accommodate 3000 guests and not 2100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 4 #24 Share Posted August 4 6 minutes ago, D. B. said: They may be M class size but if so they will accommodate 3000 guests and not 2100. How about something 2/3 the physical size of the M class, but with only 1/4 the number of passengers and more crew per passenger? Silversea 'Muse class'. Pretty nice way to travel, and now X and SS tiers cross over. Something to consider. Our first was on Silver Dawn, built 2021. Very nice design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. B. Posted August 4 #25 Share Posted August 4 I just sailed on Silversea's Silver Muse and that description fits it. I didn't care for that ship and will not be sailing on Silversea again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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