Theft on Oasis

[Gunnerpup]

While it's trashy it's not stealing to take lost items ... technically. The secret is honestly..only take the bare minimums out on deck. Your room is only a 5 to 10 walk save for the largest ships.

 

Also leave the good stuff at home. I always bring tier two electronics on trips. Never miss them if something bad happens ;)

 

Again i speak of lost item I am not condoning direct theft!

 

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Edited August 25, 2014 by Gunnerpup

[SB9]

That sucks.

 

Maybe I didn't notice this before but last week on Oasis I saw plenty of security all over the ship. Last week my wife left her sea pass card in a slot machine and didn't realize it until we left and got back to our room. She went back down and someone returned it to the cashier in the casino. It was left there maybe 15 - 20 mins.

 

It's not the same thing but at least it was returned.

[ehfl]

IMy Chanel sunglasses were stolen by another passenger this week on Oasis.

 

If you saw the passenger take it, why didn't you stop them/say something at the time? If you didn't see the passenger take it, how do you know it was a passenger? Something doesn't add up here. :confused:

[cindivan]

While it's trashy it's not stealing to take lost items ... technically. The secret is honestly..only take the bare minimums out on deck. Your room is only a 5 to 10 walk save for the largest ships.

 

Also leave the good stuff at home. I always bring tier two electronics on trips. Never miss them if something bad happens ;)

 

Again i speak of lost item I am not condoning direct theft!

 

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It actually is stealing. Police call it "theft by conversion."

 

Years ago my husband and I were traveling alone and shared a table with 3 other couples we met in the cruise. The last night of the cruise one of the guys came to dinner proudly showing off a new ring. We asked him if he bought it onshore that day, and he told is he had found it in his safe! We were shocked he just thought it was his to keep. We considered telling a worker but in the end didn't do anything. I'm not sure it would have done any good anyway.

 

 

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[ttnc4me]

Doesn't RC have security cameras all over the public places? Most people remember a forgotten item within an hour or two. Why can't RC review the tapes within that time span and see what happened to that camera/purse/sunglasses/wallet, etc that was left on the table/chair/floor, etc?

Ditto

 

First of all they don´t have security cameras all over to Monitor every Inch of the ship and why should they?

 

But then even if they had them, what do you think how many People lose Little things every day. Reviewing those tapes is quite time consuming. I can´t see them doing this for every lost / misplaced item. In Addition if they reviewed the tape in the OP´s case and watch a passenger pick it up. How are they going to indentify him/her and even if they did, what´s next?

They should because something could happen anywhere. And, if they got the description of the passenger, they could easily match it to the photo attached to the seapass card.

 

I too thought there were cameras everywhere and thought that that is what keeps people honest.

[Aquahound]

While it's trashy it's not stealing to take lost items ... technically.

 

Yes it is.

[ttnc4me]

I did months ago - best thing I ever did here:) No more looking at hundreds of countdown clocks and endless lists of cruises taken:D

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[Philly Steve]

Would be nice if we could selectively turn off signatures rather than all or nothing.

 

Back to the subject at hand....sort of. Not on a cruise but I found almost $300 in a money clip and I turned it in. The owner didn't seem the least bit appreciative.

 

Yes it would, and, on topic, that's a shame!

 

I thought we had lost our secondary camera in the Solarium of Grandeur on our last cruise but it turned up, packed in a drawstring bag in DW's makeup case days after debarkation. Kind of restored my "faith in humanity" as it was not a case of theft as I had suspected (no, it didn't ruin our cruise). Needless to say, we'll be a little more mindful of possessions so we don't waste valuable vacation time at lost and found! :cool:

[ladysail2]

"....first of all, they don't have security monitors all over to monitor every inch of the ship, and why should they?

.....and even if they did see someone pick up someone else's possession, what's next?' or words to that effect.....the Quote button isn't working...

 

Well, Paulxyz.....I was trying to offer a solution to a problem and you're more interested in criticizing me.

 

They do have security cameras in most public places on the ship....take a look around next time. There are alot of them. There are more and more of them being installed as 'situations' occur on ships, trust me.

Yes, looking at security tapes is time consuming and boring, but it shows an interest from the ship's staff that they care about their clients. I'm not talking about losing a hankie or an elastic, but cameras, wallets, moneyclips are things of value.

Picking up someone else's property and keeping it, is theft. On land, one would be charged with theft if caught.

I realize that leaving a valuable behind is the owner's responsibility, but the ship has the ability to see what happened to it, if it was left in a public place. They certainly will look at security tapes in retail stores to see what happened to a missing bag of merchandise.

[Ladyinflight]

Thieves are everywhere. Just last week I was in a ladies room stall, when my sunglasses fell and bounced on the floor out of the stall. Someone ran and crabbed the glasses and took off. I heard them running. Now, that is pathetic.

[Aquahound]

First of all they don´t have security cameras all over to Monitor every Inch of the ship and why should they?

 

But then even if they had them, what do you think how many People lose Little things every day. Reviewing those tapes is quite time consuming. I can´t see them doing this for every lost / misplaced item. In Addition if they reviewed the tape in the OP´s case and watch a passenger pick it up. How are they going to indentify him/her and even if they did, what´s next?

 

Yes, there are cameras in every public space including the stateroom passageways. It takes a few minutes, but the person can be followed back to a stateroom or to the next location they use a SeaPass card. They do have this ability, but how often they use it for on board petit thefts is unbeknownst to me.

[Ocean Boy]

If you saw the passenger take it, why didn't you stop them/say something at the time? If you didn't see the passenger take it, how do you know it was a passenger? Something doesn't add up here. :confused:

 

The choices would be passenger or crew. There are not too many other options on a cruise ship.

[phoenix_dream]

There are honest and dishonest people everywhere - and this thread is a good reminder of that. People tend to get lax about security on vacations, and I think even more so on cruise vacations as they tend to start to think of the ship as their 'home' in a way. But bad stuff can happen anywhere so it is always smart to be aware of your surroundings and your possessions.

 

I also agree with those who believe that there is no such thing as 'finders, keepers' in this situation. If you find something that does not belong to you and you can reasonably attempt to find its owner, then there is a moral obligation (if not even a legal one) to attempt to do so. Certainly finding an object on a cruise ship falls into the reasonable attempt category as all you need to do is turn it in.

[ehfl]

The choices would be passenger or crew. There are not too many other options on a cruise ship.

 

Exactly my point...and if they knew that it wasn't crew, they must have seen it happen, and should have said something right away.

[F27TW]

Why don't you just turn the signatures off?

 

 

What??? How you do dat ??

[Clarea]

What??? How you do dat ??

User CP, Edit Options, uncheck show signatures.

[ReneeFLL]

Being on a cruise is no different than being anywhere else. There's a cross section of society and not everyone is honest. We've seen posters on here post "finders keepers" and "posession is nine-tenths of the law" type of responses before so there are obviously those that think nothing of taking other's property. We are always as careful on a cruise with our stuff as we are anywhere else.

 

Every time I see a post with one of those little crawling bug things in the signature block, I end up swatting at my screen. I don't particularly like them but I guess some people do.

 

I don't have one, but my cat loves to watch the bugs moving. :D

[delirious9876]

There are honest and dishonest people everywhere - and this thread is a good reminder of that. People tend to get lax about security on vacations, and I think even more so on cruise vacations as they tend to start to think of the ship as their 'home' in a way. But bad stuff can happen anywhere so it is always smart to be aware of your surroundings and your possessions.

 

I also agree with those who believe that there is no such thing as 'finders, keepers' in this situation. If you find something that does not belong to you and you can reasonably attempt to find its owner, then there is a moral obligation (if not even a legal one) to attempt to do so. Certainly finding an object on a cruise ship falls into the reasonable attempt category as all you need to do is turn it in.

Good post. Thanks.

 

I agree wholeheartedly :)

[bouhunter]

Ditto

 

 

They should because something could happen anywhere. And, if they got the description of the passenger, they could easily match it to the photo attached to the seapass card.

 

I too thought there were cameras everywhere and thought that that is what keeps people honest.

 

You seriously think a grainy security camera shot probably at an angle at a distance could "easily" be matched up to one of 3-6,000 cruise ship seapass photo's??????:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Sure, a ship employee could sit down and have that done in a few minutes:rolleyes:

Edited August 25, 2014 by bouhunter

[delirious9876]

You seriously think a grainy security camera shot probably at an angle at a distance could "easily" be matched up to one of 3-6,000 cruise ship seapass photo's??????:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Sure, a ship employee could sit down and have that done in a few minutes:rolleyes:

Why be so ridiculing ? Why not say what you wanted to say in a more friendly way?

 

Not nice :(

[BND]

While it's trashy it's not stealing to take lost items ... technically. The secret is honestly..only take the bare minimums out on deck. Your room is only a 5 to 10 walk save for the largest ships.

 

Also leave the good stuff at home. I always bring tier two electronics on trips. Never miss them if something bad happens ;)

 

Again i speak of lost item I am not condoning direct theft!

 

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Wow, talk about parsing of words. It absolutely is stealing and it's this kind of attitude I was referring to in my post on the first page that we see on here from some people.

[ehfl]

You seriously think a grainy security camera shot probably at an angle at a distance could "easily" be matched up to one of 3-6,000 cruise ship seapass photo's??????:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Sure, a ship employee could sit down and have that done in a few minutes:rolleyes:

 

Actually, the images are high resolution, and the facial recognition system used aboard is automated and pretty quick (see http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1788002)

[BND]

Actually, the images are high resolution, and the facial recognition system used aboard is automated and pretty quick (see http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1788002)

 

Well, since they can do it for the photos we buy, then yeah, I'd think they'd be able to utilize it elsewhere.

[Ocean_Waves]

While it's trashy it's not stealing to take lost items ... technically. The secret is honestly..only take the bare minimums out on deck. Your room is only a 5 to 10 walk save for the largest ships.

 

Also leave the good stuff at home. I always bring tier two electronics on trips. Never miss them if something bad happens ;)

 

Again i speak of lost item I am not condoning direct theft!

 

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It is theft. Many states call it different things. The state I reside in calls it "Theft of lost or mislaid property". One must turn the property into their local police department, where the police will attempt to contact the owner. After a certain lapse of time, if no owner comes forward the person(s) that turned the property in has a right to claim the property as theirs.

 

Sources - Myself: I am a law enforcement officer

[Llmtax2000]

If you saw the passenger take it, why didn't you stop them/say something at the time? If you didn't see the passenger take it, how do you know it was a passenger? Something doesn't add up here. :confused:

 

 

The employees had not been back through to clean up after the passengers walked out of Bingo, so the only person(s) who would have seen them to take them would have been a passenger.

 

You're right, though I suppose an employee who was randomly walking through the closed Opal Theater could have seen them and taken them.

 

 

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