Deployment 2018-19 booking season begins

[Beachammo]

That is the logical conclusion. Harmony was very successful in Europe this year. The other factor to take into account is that oasis 4 is due to launch in spring 2018 and normally that would mean a first summer season in Europe? Any chance they would base 2 oasis class ships in Europe together? Not sure what's going on.

 

 

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Harmony is not going back to Europe....

 

During the TA the captain told us that the Harmony would remain in Florida until drydock

[ssb]

No Western Caribbean itineraries from Bayonne or Baltimore for a second year in a row? :eek:

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Here you go two legs b2b or one leg only Bayonne to Galveston:

Repositioning in October 2017 Vision from Quebec City thru Bayonne NJ to Southern Caribbean and back up Western Caribbean into Galveston as new home port. :)

Edited November 20, 2016 by ssb

[crosby99]

Harmony back to Europe would not make any sense at all logistically...[emoji848]

 

She is already in the Caribbean, and Oasis 4 constructed in Europe, so she should serve on Europe cruises in 2018.

 

The reason why Harmony might not be listed at SXM might just be an itinerary change.

Some seasons ago for Allure and Oasis there have also been such changes, where one port was replaced by another.

 

And sorry, Oasis from Southampton is pretty unlikely. IMHO those ships are just for good and warm weather, and the Europe sailings from Southampton do not fulfil such needs.

Especially in the Atlantic Ocean, and the fjords, there's too much inclement weather, and I also think several ports are not capable for Oasis class ships.

If a new ship class comes to Southampton, Quantum class at best...

 

 

 

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I still think something will change for 2020.

P&O will be sailing a ship considerably bigger than Quantum Class out of Southampton. I just can't see them leaving Navigator & Independence in Southampton in this situation.

Plus Michael Bayley has already pretty much confirmed that Oasis class will at some point be coming to Southampton.

[chandom]

Interesting. I can't recall an RC ship staying in Tampa for the summer. I guess she could go to another US port.

Cab driver come back from Freedom's last Port Canaveral sailing said it might be coming here (Port Canaveral).

[teddybear231]

Oasis class from Bayonne would be nice :rolleyes:

 

And anything bigger/newer out of Baltimore would be better

[denatravels]

I just found this:

 

http://www.royalcaribbeanincentives.com/content/uploads/2017-2018-Deployment-Summary-Guide.pdf

 

 

Those itineraries were already released. That's not new.

 

 

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[Clarea]

Cab driver come back from Freedom's last Port Canaveral sailing said it might be coming here (Port Canaveral).

Probably more reliable info than RC customer service.

[molly361]

Probably more reliable info than RC customer service.

 

I've seen that story before. RH was coming to PC for this year. I have several redeployment OBC's from that:)

[shipfriend_max]

I still think something will change for 2020.

P&O will be sailing a ship considerably bigger than Quantum Class out of Southampton. I just can't see them leaving Navigator & Independence in Southampton in this situation.

Plus Michael Bayley has already pretty much confirmed that Oasis class will at some point be coming to Southampton.

 

I rather recall Quantum-Class for Southampton was mentioned for some year - and I think that's going to happen by 2019 when the next Quantum-Class-ship is going to debut - Oasis-Class is unlikely, ince for the different weather and climate situation this class of ship simply is not the right series of ships, since she is designed for warm weather areas.

 

I think to compete with the larger P&O ship RCCL could deploy Indy (or another Freedom-Class-ship) and Quantum-Class in Southampton.

[Hoopster95]

Probably more reliable info than RC customer service.

 

:eek::eek::eek::p

 

;)

[crosby99]

I rather recall Quantum-Class for Southampton was mentioned for some year - and I think that's going to happen by 2019 when the next Quantum-Class-ship is going to debut - Oasis-Class is unlikely, ince for the different weather and climate situation this class of ship simply is not the right series of ships, since she is designed for warm weather areas.

 

I think to compete with the larger P&O ship RCCL could deploy Indy (or another Freedom-Class-ship) and Quantum-Class in Southampton.

 

Anthem of the seas was terribly badly received by the UK market. Highly, highly unlikely I suspect it will be another quantum.

 

This is what Bayley said:-

 

Bayley refused to reveal whether this would be a Quantum or an Oasis-class vessel, however he insisted that the UK “could fill an Oasis-class ship”.

 

Asked whether this meant an Oasis-class ship was subsequently on the table to homeport in Southampton, Bayley admitted: “It could be”.

 

These ships don't sell much outside the UK market from Southampton and the British market don't care about a bit of rain. Within a day or 2 it will be in fine weather and the likely destinations are already set for Oasis class.

Would the British market fill Oasis? I think it will.

I really wouldn't rule it out happening :)

[shipfriend_max]

Anthem of the seas was terribly badly received by the UK market. Highly, highly unlikely I suspect it will be another quantum.

 

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Would the British market fill Oasis? I think it will.

I really wouldn't rule it out happening :)

 

I think it's a little early to speculate on that, since there's even nothing out for summer 2018... ;)

 

The Britians seem to be very conservative cruisers, and if Quantum-Class did not sell very well, than Oasis-Class doesn't do either I think - also Quantum-Class has more enclosed areas for inclement weather.

 

The second problem for RCCL was that in 2015, P&O Cruises, Britanis cruise line No. 1 relvealed the new ship "Britannia", which was doing very well, I think, and took away many potential customers for Anthem otS.

 

But BTT 2018, according to the port schedules, Indy and Navi seem to sail from Southampton in 2018.

Edited November 20, 2016 by shipfriend_max

[Thorben-Hendrik]

An Oasis in Southampton would be amazing and it would work! There are so many similarities between an Oasis and Indy plus more, unlike Anthem, which doesn't feel like RCI at all.

 

Really???:eek:

 

I would see FAR more similarities between Indy and Anthem!

 

Oasis is not fit for an European market because of the sunshine weather set up - IMHO!

[LXA350]

One of the things that were not well received was the dynamic dining concept, hence the new Quantum Class ship will not have that issue since the concept has been cancelled for the moment

[shipfriend_max]

An Oasis in Southampton would be amazing and it would work! There are so many similarities between an Oasis and Indy plus more, unlike Anthem, which doesn't feel like RCI at all.

 

I am also referring to the size, because from SOuthampton many ports (including Norwegian Fjords, smaller Med/Western European ports) are visited which cannot be reached by huge ships such as Oasis, so she would be simply too large for such itineraries. And featuring more simplified itineraires just for Oasis would be really pitiful, IMHO...

 

Quantum-Class-ships might visit most of those ports, as well as Indy and Navi.

[Thorben-Hendrik]

I've sailed both. They share about 10% of each other's DNA.

That's not saying that Anthem's a bad ship, there are some things I really liked, but I just have no interest for another Quantum in Southampton and would much prefer to see another Oasis Class.

Also, if it's Oasis 4, they can adapt it to suit Southampton.

 

if that is true - than Oasis shares 0,02% of the DNA of Indy!:rolleyes:

 

O4 in Southampton for long - is not going to happen...get real!

[Thorben-Hendrik]

Do you?:confused:

 

How can anybody seriously suggest an O-class ship for Europe?

Size and set-up would not work with ports and weather!

 

UK will be lucky if they can keep 1 smaller ship - once the Brexit financial troubles hit them....IMHO

I think we will see a major expansion in Barcelona for many reasons - much better port for logistics anyway!

Edited November 20, 2016 by germanfflyer

[Clarea]

I've seen that story before. RH was coming to PC for this year. I have several redeployment OBC's from that:)

You are the Empress of redeployment OBC.:)

[crosby99]

Do you?:confused:

 

How can anybody seriously suggest an O-class ship for Europe?

Size and set-up would not work with ports and weather!

 

UK will be lucky if they can keep 1 smaller ship - once the Brexit financial troubles hit them....IMHO

I think we will see a major expansion in Barcelona for many reasons - much better port for logistics anyway!

 

I guess we shall see......as we shall with Brexit too:roll eyes:

Bit confused isn't Barcelona in Europe? :)

[harz99]

Surely Anthem was badly received in the UK because it wasn't fully finished and many of the advertised features were not available, or was that Harmony. Can't remember which but the problems caused Royal a huge amount of negative press here.

 

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[crosby99]

Surely Anthem was badly received in the UK because it wasn't fully finished and many of the advertised features were not available, or was that Harmony. Can't remember which but the problems caused Royal a huge amount of negative press here.

 

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It was Harmony that got the bad press.

 

Anthem sold well but the reviews on this website and others were not inspiring. Dint really get any press coverage.

As mentioned above most of the negativity was linked with dynamic dining.

Mind you neither did Britannia(P&O) get fantastic reviews

[Cel_cruise]

I remember lots of bad press on dreamworks characters not being on anthem, but not sure if that was an issue for everyone or a select few?

 

 

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[js]

Do you all think that Oasis will stay in Port Canaveral? Im seriously thinking doing Disney a few days in August 2018 wih an Oasis cruise after. I dont care if Oasis or Allure but want to sail one of them since Oasis came out.

 

Thanks so much!

 

 

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[Tm100]

Do you all think that Oasis will stay in Port Canaveral? Im seriously thinking doing Disney a few days in August 2018 wih an Oasis cruise after. I dont care if Oasis or Allure but want to sail one of them since Oasis came out.

 

Thanks so much!

 

 

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Without a doubt one Oasis class ship will be in Port Canaveral.

[Clarea]

Do you all think that Oasis will stay in Port Canaveral? Im seriously thinking doing Disney a few days in August 2018 wih an Oasis cruise after. I dont care if Oasis or Allure but want to sail one of them since Oasis came out.

 

Thanks so much!

Don't know for sure, but RC has had a ship in PC year round for 7-day cruises for many years now, and I would bet Oasis has at least few years there.

Edited November 21, 2016 by clarea