Motorman23 Posted October 4, 2016 #126 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Haiti is taking the brunt of the storm this morning. I don't see how any ships will be able to visit there in the next couple weeks. There will be massive damage. This storm is not moving very fast so that will have a huge impact on damage. Those people must be horrified. Praying for them. Sadly it's going to be bad, the storm surge will be significant at labadee but the deforestation to supply wood for fuel is going to cause lots of mud slides and that may be the worst problem. May want to look at the Red Cross for donations. Mike Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouhunter Posted October 4, 2016 #127 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I think that's what's bothering me the most about it. To me, I think it would be in extremely poor taste to roll up in a cruise ship to an island that has just been destroyed by a hurricane. I can't even begin to imagine what those poor people of Haiti are going to be dealing with. It's not a matter of can you go, but, rather, should you. If they are bringing supplies, that is one thing. But, to show up as a stop for people on board to exit the ship & tour the island is something else entirely. Yes, it would be better to stay away and deprive the local people of their income source for a few weeks.........:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsail Posted October 4, 2016 #128 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Not only do the ships bring supplies but they pay millions of dollars to the government for the right to dock there. The government welcomes the ships. Not counting the locals who work there and in turn pump their money into the local Econ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKCcruiser8 Posted October 4, 2016 #129 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Yes, it would be better to stay away and deprive the local people of their income source for a few weeks.........:rolleyes: I was actually questioning whether it made sense to show up this week. Only a couple of days after the storm has hit. Never did I mention not showing up for weeks. But, that's cute how you tried to put words in my mouth. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loubetti Posted October 4, 2016 #130 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Definitely not a sailing I'd want to be aboard. Perhaps they will get a pass on Jones Act requirements and bus some folks who have to be back on Friday up the coast, not that buses on 95 in such weather seems highly sensible either...perhaps they go to Tampa running new pax to Tampa and offloading "old" pax off to PC via bus. I'm sure they have folks on shifts looking at the logistics for all these options right now. They will certainly get a pass, but it won't be on the Jones Act, which deals with freight vessels, it will he on the Passenger Vessel Services Act, or PVSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted October 4, 2016 #131 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Hurricane & tropical storm watches issued for much of Florida coast: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/153536.shtml?5-daynl#contents Florida's port/shore forecasts seem to be getting uglier with each passing hour when it comes to Hurricane Matthew. Just heard about the state of emergency decrees in Florida and North Carolina both. :eek::eek::eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouhunter Posted October 4, 2016 #132 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I was actually questioning whether it made sense to show up this week. Only a couple of days after the storm has hit. Never did I mention not showing up for weeks. But, that's cute how you tried to put words in my mouth. :rolleyes: Point taken. I guess I was thinking back to the earthquake when the media made RCCL out as some dark evil thing for going anywhere near Labadee for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjmaher Posted October 4, 2016 #133 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Hurricane Matthew's core has moved back over water after passing over southwest Haiti. Latest recon showed a closed eyewall with winds at 120 mph at the surface and 146 mph only 1000ft above the sea surface. The damage in that part of Haiti must have been catastrophic. Hope aid reaches them quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted October 4, 2016 #134 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Chicken littles I tell you! We enjoy Oct cruises! We're in SAN JUAN right now sitting on hotel balcony enjoying a beautiful sunshine morning. Headed to the pool bar after a bit for you guessed it.... Hurricanes We board the Adventure tomorrow When I booked the Aug. 25th Anthem cruise to NE/Canada there was a bit of concern that we could be dealing with a hurricane or Nor'Eastern storms. To our surprise, the waters for the entire length of our cruise was very calm and as calm as the Carib. However, the next cruise to Bermuda they went thru a terrible storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted October 4, 2016 #135 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Florida's port/shore forecasts seem to be getting uglier with each passing hour when it comes to Hurricane Matthew. Just heard about the state of emergency decrees in Florida and North Carolina both. :eek::eek::eek: Here is a snipet from the Cocoa Beach (PC) hurricane watch. Hurricane Watch issued October 04 at 11:25AM EDT until further notice by NWS Melbourne Northern Brevard County UNTIL FRIDAY EVENING - CURRENT THREAT TO LIFE AND PROPERTY: EXTREME - EMERGENCY PLANNING SHOULD INCLUDE A REASONABLE THREAT FOR MAJOR HURRICANE FORCE WIND GREATER THAN 110 MPH OF EQUIVALENT CATEGORY 3 INTENSITY OR HIGHER. - TO BE SAFE, AGGRESSIVELY PREPARE FOR THE POTENTIAL OF DEVASTATING WIND IMPACTS. EFFORTS SHOULD NOW BE UNDERWAY TO SECURE ALL PROPERTIES. - EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AND LIFE THREATENING WIND IS POSSIBLE. FAILURE TO ADEQUATELY SHELTER MAY RESULT IN SERIOUS INJURY, LOSS OF LIFE, OR IMMENSE HUMAN SUFFERING. MJ will be right in the thick of it on Thursday if she comes up the coast. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erby2283 Posted October 4, 2016 #136 Share Posted October 4, 2016 This may be a dumb question but I know when we visited Roatan (maybe Cozumel, I can't remember), people brought school supplies for locals. Like this was something they did every time they came and there was a place set up for them to bring their donation. Does Labadee have anything like that? We're sailing in two weeks and I'm sure people on our roll call would love to help bring any items we could that might help that would fit in our bags (if we still go there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexCruise371 Posted October 4, 2016 #137 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Here is a snipet from the Cocoa Beach (PC) hurricane watch. Hurricane Watch issued October 04 at 11:25AM EDT until further notice by NWS Melbourne Northern Brevard County UNTIL FRIDAY EVENING - CURRENT THREAT TO LIFE AND PROPERTY: EXTREME - EMERGENCY PLANNING SHOULD INCLUDE A REASONABLE THREAT FOR MAJOR HURRICANE FORCE WIND GREATER THAN 110 MPH OF EQUIVALENT CATEGORY 3 INTENSITY OR HIGHER. - TO BE SAFE, AGGRESSIVELY PREPARE FOR THE POTENTIAL OF DEVASTATING WIND IMPACTS. EFFORTS SHOULD NOW BE UNDERWAY TO SECURE ALL PROPERTIES. - EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AND LIFE THREATENING WIND IS POSSIBLE. FAILURE TO ADEQUATELY SHELTER MAY RESULT IN SERIOUS INJURY, LOSS OF LIFE, OR IMMENSE HUMAN SUFFERING. MJ will be right in the thick of it on Thursday if she comes up the coast. :eek: Wishing all our friends in the path our best wishes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticketsunlimited Posted October 4, 2016 #138 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Bahamas are going to get there ass kicked with this one. 120 million in damage from hurricane juaqine last year may be a drop in the bucket with this direct hit. Amazing how fast these things happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted October 4, 2016 #139 Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) I think that's what's bothering me the most about it. To me, I think it would be in extremely poor taste to roll up in a cruise ship to an island that has just been destroyed by a hurricane. I can't even begin to imagine what those poor people of Haiti are going to be dealing with. It's not a matter of can you go, but, rather, should you. If they are bringing supplies, that is one thing. But, to show up as a stop for people on board to exit the ship & tour the island is something else entirely. Wow, so clueless! It's not all about the cruise line passengers, there is the matter of the jobs for those Haitians who depend on the money spent by passengers...so you think a double hit of the hurricane to devastate them and then their only source of income to leave would be the thing to do?!....off soap box. Edited October 4, 2016 by BecciBoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKCcruiser8 Posted October 4, 2016 #140 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Wow, so clueless! It's not all about the cruise line passengers, there is the matter of the jobs for those Haitians who depend on the money spent by passengers...so you think a double hit of the hurricane to devastate them and then their only source of income to leave would be the thing to do?!....off soap box. You think that 2 days after a hurricane hits that people who are still trying to clean up or may be dealing with injuries or possibly even worse to family members are concerned about a cruise ship not showing up for a day or 2? Really? Not only that, but as slow as this storm is moving would it even have stopped raining yet? Would those people even be able to GET to work? And if the port is a mess, would there be anything for passengers to spend their money on? I never said anything about staying away for weeks or even for more than one week. I'm talking about 2 days after a hurricane has hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted October 4, 2016 #141 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Any care to guess what location is getting hit but has yet to be mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne123 Posted October 4, 2016 #142 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I believe I read here a while ago that the workers have huts on this side of the fence/wall in Labadee. Maybe someone can clarify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyager70 Posted October 4, 2016 #143 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Any care to guess what location is getting hit but has yet to be mentioned? Nassau and Coco Cay are practically in the center of the cone as it stands now. As the center of the storm crossed a very narrow strip of land on Haiti and is expected to do the same on eastern Cuba, not much chance of significant weakening by the time it reaches Bahamas & potentially southeast US coast. Thoughts and prayers for all in the path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laginog Posted October 4, 2016 #144 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I believe I read here a while ago that the workers have huts on this side of the fence/wall in Labadee. Maybe someone can clarify. I believe I've heard that before too. Praying everyone is ok. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted October 4, 2016 #145 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Any care to guess what location is getting hit but has yet to be mentioned?Bermuda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted October 4, 2016 #146 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Bermuda? Cuba - Gitmo, where the prisoners are better looked after than the Haitians and Cubans who are suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCruise Posted October 4, 2016 #147 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Bermuda? Nah, nowhere near Bermuda and nowhere near the path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pspercy Posted October 4, 2016 #148 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Nah, nowhere near Bermuda and nowhere near the path. TS Nicole headed that way . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BillOh Posted October 4, 2016 #149 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Nah, nowhere near Bermuda and nowhere near the path. Projected path, as we know they always follow a predictable path :p That said, they are much better at projecting paths than they use to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted October 4, 2016 #150 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Cuba - Gitmo, where the prisoners are better looked after than the Haitians and Cubans who are suffering. I've seen Gitmo in the news. The families have been evacuated to Pensacola Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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