AmazedByCruising Posted August 18, 2018 #1 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (My) Dutch culture is quite different from the US. For instance, only once in 15 years a customer asked to speak to a manager on our support desk which has more than 40 calls/day. I've never even heard someone in a restaurant or shop asking for a manager. On this site, people often recommend to simply send an email directly to the CEO to get things sorted. Compared to my simple software company, a ship is a very different environment, where there's a very obvious ranking in personel, where problems may range from undelivered hors d'oeuvres to an AED that should have been available but wasn't. But I've noticed that during meetings discussing the more difficult mails, complaints, requests, I sometimes think "what would a Hotel Director do". And then the really hard problem, where nobody in the meeting can come up with a technical solution, can suddenly be solved with a lot of saying sorry, flowers, and 20% of the licence paid back. Are there more people who came back from a cruise and thought about new solutions for their daily work after seeing how a ship handled a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolocheese Posted August 18, 2018 #2 Share Posted August 18, 2018 No, I didn't see much parallel between my work and the ship. However, I was amazed at how the ship was run, how efficiently and effectively it functioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted August 18, 2018 #3 Share Posted August 18, 2018 No -- there wasn't anything on a ship/cruise that related to our jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted August 18, 2018 #4 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I'd have to say that's a yes. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookwife Posted August 18, 2018 #5 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I'd have to say that's a yes. :D Mr Spook too. although in at least one instance, the Bridge crew learned something from him WRT Piracy issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bull Posted August 18, 2018 #6 Share Posted August 18, 2018 How to treat customers. And on rare occasions, how not to treat customers JB :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipgeeks Posted August 18, 2018 #7 Share Posted August 18, 2018 That I probably couldn't work on a ship, because I would have to be unfailingly pleasant all the time. I can do that easily when I am with my students/clients, but it's nice to know I can retreat to my private life, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Got2Cruise Posted August 18, 2018 #8 Share Posted August 18, 2018 How to interact with people from all cultures and economic backgrounds. Short answer: Be Nice always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted August 18, 2018 #9 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I'd have to say that's a yes. :D Same here-- every one of my deployments contributed to better performance on later ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmazedByCruising Posted August 18, 2018 Author #10 Share Posted August 18, 2018 i'd have to say that's a yes. :D lol :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmazedByCruising Posted August 18, 2018 Author #11 Share Posted August 18, 2018 No, I didn't see much parallel between my work and the ship. However, I was amazed at how the ship was run, how efficiently and effectively it functioned. That exactly why I'd want my company to run like a ship by running it like a ship :D The crew always doing more than expected, always with a smile, has to come from somewhere. Behind the scenes tours give you a glimpse. Showing points for everything on long lists (maybe 150 items). "Live music", "Outdoor Cleanliness", "Photo revenue", and the variance for each of those. But also "Smile guests are on the other side of the door". It gives you the impression of a huge machine, but at the same time it is precise enough so the galley takes orders for "10 cookies" for a kid's party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldsc Posted August 18, 2018 #12 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Absolutely nothing except maybe to retire early so I could travel more. DON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted August 18, 2018 #13 Share Posted August 18, 2018 That exactly why I'd want my company to run like a ship by running it like a ship :D The crew always doing more than expected, always with a smile, has to come from somewhere. Behind the scenes tours give you a glimpse. Showing points for everything on long lists (maybe 150 items). "Live music", "Outdoor Cleanliness", "Photo revenue", and the variance for each of those. But also "Smile guests are on the other side of the door". It gives you the impression of a huge machine, but at the same time it is precise enough so the galley takes orders for "10 cookies" for a kid's party. Ships are hierarchies including by rank, job category and race. They have a defined "who is in charge" that is not debatable unlike many companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted August 18, 2018 #14 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (My) Dutch culture is quite different from the US. For instance, only once in 15 years a customer asked to speak to a manager on our support desk which has more than 40 calls/day. I've never even heard someone in a restaurant or shop asking for a manager. On this site, people often recommend to simply send an email directly to the CEO to get things sorted. Compared to my simple software company, a ship is a very different environment, where there's a very obvious ranking in personel, where problems may range from undelivered hors d'oeuvres to an AED that should have been available but wasn't. But I've noticed that during meetings discussing the more difficult mails, complaints, requests, I sometimes think "what would a Hotel Director do". And then the really hard problem, where nobody in the meeting can come up with a technical solution, can suddenly be solved with a lot of saying sorry, flowers, and 20% of the licence paid back. Are there more people who came back from a cruise and thought about new solutions for their daily work after seeing how a ship handled a problem? Having worked for 37 years for a world wide company who has its European headquarters in Holland, I have nothing but admiration for the work ethic off all the Dutch colleagues who I came in contact with. It is a completely different to what is experienced in many other countries in that they have a 'Can do, Will do' philosophy and even though the initial impression may be of coldness and distance, they do believe in getting their job done. I also consider that 'the higher ups' in Dutch business, tend to give more decision making rights to lower levels (ie customer facing support agents) and the same customer facing support agents tend to take the view that 'higher up' are for more 'directional' decisions and not the day to day running of the company. So, decisions can and are made without referral 'up the chain'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted August 18, 2018 #15 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Absolutely nothing except maybe to retire early so I could travel more. DON Doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare geoherb Posted August 18, 2018 #16 Share Posted August 18, 2018 DH met a college president with whom he kept in touch. It was helpful because she provided the needed contacts at another college for his school's benchmarking project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tt_moore Posted August 22, 2018 #17 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Yes. Be nice to the low man on the totem pole. They will bend over backward in an effort to meet your need and be recognized so they can move up. Always acknowledge and report stellar service to the powers that be. It makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evandbob Posted August 22, 2018 #18 Share Posted August 22, 2018 My present job is retirement and a ship or a resort gives me lessons in relaxing and taking it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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