NorthwestCruiser Posted February 19, 2020 #2476 Share Posted February 19, 2020 30 minutes ago, bluesea321 said: Some will indeed show up positive but nonetheless I would still prefer to be in the US under a proper quarantine and medical care than staying on the doomed ship with 600+ and counting infections. Well, yes for the passenger but perhaps not the best for the other 327 million of us. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesea321 Posted February 19, 2020 #2477 Share Posted February 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, mking8288 said: Latest on the 45 out of 52 HK residents that are due to fly home shortly on HK government chartered converted cargo flight, modified for use - https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3051340/hong-kong-security-chief-says-japan-should-make-releasing Very good article, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesea321 Posted February 19, 2020 #2478 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NorthwestCruiser said: Well, yes for the passenger but perhaps not the best for the other 327 million of us. Why not for us? The US passengers will not be released during the 14 days of quarantine and this, in contrast to the fiasco on the ship, will be a proper quarantine. Edited February 19, 2020 by bluesea321 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinkles Posted February 19, 2020 #2479 Share Posted February 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, NorthwestCruiser said: Well, yes for the passenger but perhaps not the best for the other 327 million of us. Why not bring them home, we’ve already got the Westerdam people not to mention tons of others, on their way: This is just going to get bigger. DH has a friend who is currently on a celebrity ship. That ship was originally scheduled to sail from Singapore to Dubai. Celebrity said, oh Singapore is a hot spot, let’s change this ship to a round trip Dubai (they did this on a Monday before a Saturday sailing ). Well guess what, people (I dont know how many) were either already in Singapore or went anyways then flew to Dubai and boarded the ship. AFTER spending days sightseeing in Singapore . Anyone else see the potential problem here? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarKay525 Posted February 19, 2020 #2480 Share Posted February 19, 2020 34 minutes ago, sprinkles said: <snip> This is just going to get bigger. DH has a friend who is currently on a celebrity ship. That ship was originally scheduled to sail from Singapore to Dubai. Celebrity said, oh Singapore is a hot spot, let’s change this ship to a round trip Dubai (they did this on a Monday before a Saturday sailing ). Well guess what, people (I dont know how many) were either already in Singapore or went anyways then flew to Dubai and boarded the ship. AFTER spending days sightseeing in Singapore . Anyone else see the potential problem here? Daughter of a friend is part of the Production cast on this ship. Just touched base with my friend and he says all is fine right now, but this does not sound like a good situation to me. Hopefully there will not be a breakout on another cruise line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy49 Posted February 19, 2020 #2481 Share Posted February 19, 2020 4 hours ago, bluesea321 said: Diamond Princess reports 79 more coronavirus cases https://nypost.com/2020/02/19/diamond-princess-reports-79-more-coronavirus-cases-as-expert-slams-ships-completely-inadequate-quarantine/ Most on there will test positive been breathing air for one month! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlyssaJames Posted February 19, 2020 #2482 Share Posted February 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, kathy49 said: Most on there will test positive been breathing air for one month! I know you've seen how many times 'it's in the HVAC system' has been rebutted ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy49 Posted February 19, 2020 #2483 Share Posted February 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, AlyssaJames said: I know you've seen how many times 'it's in the HVAC system' has been rebutted ... Yep taping the vents after cabin after cabin test positive...pretty obvious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtravel Posted February 19, 2020 #2484 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Reminds me of the Legionaire's Disease in the late 70s at the convention in Philadelphia. Eventually they had to close the Bellevue Stratford hotel to clear the air. If the vent system has any input, Princess may be in a similar situation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelulu01 Posted February 19, 2020 #2485 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Do we know the status of the 621 passengers infected? Ie what percent is mild, critical... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragilek Posted February 19, 2020 #2486 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, littlelulu01 said: Do we know the status of the 621 passengers infected? Ie what percent is mild, critical... Don't know all the details but when last I looked into it there were 24 described as critical. I read somewhere today that there is now 29 - but they did not provided links to any official documents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmed1959 Posted February 19, 2020 #2487 Share Posted February 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, littlelulu01 said: Do we know the status of the 621 passengers infected? Ie what percent is mild, critical... According to worldometers.info, 621 infected, 20 critical, 17 recovered. Anyone hear what happened to the recovered passengers? Were they sent home? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlyssaJames Posted February 19, 2020 #2488 Share Posted February 19, 2020 The Johns Hopkins map has dropped the "Other" number to 542, down from 600 something earlier today. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragilek Posted February 19, 2020 #2489 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, AlyssaJames said: The Johns Hopkins map has dropped the "Other" number to 542, down from 600 something earlier today. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 It did a numbers glitch yesterday too. I am sure the number on the ship will be the number Japan have already confirmed which I think is about 621. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted February 19, 2020 #2490 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) so, after the next 3-4-5 days - how many passengers will still be on the ship, and what is their status/future - or will ALL passengers, well, or sick, be moved off the ship ? Edited February 19, 2020 by voljeep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesea321 Posted February 19, 2020 #2491 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Good summary article FYI. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/19/807418497/coronavirus-update-diamond-princess-passengers-leave-ship-as-expert-slams-quaran 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted February 19, 2020 #2492 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, AlyssaJames said: How the heck were they going to get everyone to their home country without infecting more people along the way? They aren’t allowed back into Australia nor the USA until 14 days after departing the ship. I am blown away that others were simply allowed to exit yesterday. Their basic assumption was all those now positive were only infected on Day 0 and not afterwards. That might have worked. But given they duct tape vents outside the cabin once someone tests positive inside blows that theory away. The rate of new positive tests should have been decreasing to zero by now. The genie is out of the bottle. Edited February 19, 2020 by Pushka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesea321 Posted February 19, 2020 #2493 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, AlyssaJames said: The Johns Hopkins map has dropped the "Other" number to 542, down from 600 something earlier today. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 It is back up to 621 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Von & John Posted February 19, 2020 #2494 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, AlyssaJames said: The Johns Hopkins map has dropped the "Other" number to 542, down from 600 something earlier today. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 I just looked at it & I see 621 for others. They must have fixed whatever glitch was there. Edited February 19, 2020 by Von & John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kearney Posted February 19, 2020 #2495 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Speaking of airflow. Ever notice what happens when you have your balcony door open and someone opens the cabin door.... cabin becomes a wind tunnel. While cruise ship cabins are a nicer form of isolation than a hospital room.. they are not designed to maintain a particular airflow. I am not sure the idea of having a green zone vs red zone would have worked on a ship if the virus is airborne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiserchuck Posted February 19, 2020 #2496 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, AlyssaJames said: I know you've seen how many times 'it's in the HVAC system' has been rebutted ... A senior Princess official confirmed there was air recirculation in the cabins. Whether or not that caused more infections is presumably still to be determined. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesea321 Posted February 19, 2020 #2497 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, cruiserchuck said: A senior Princess official confirmed there was air recirculation in the cabins. Whether or not that caused more infections is presumably still to be determined. Yeap, here he is, Rai Calouri, Executive VP of Ship Operations. Edited February 19, 2020 by bluesea321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesea321 Posted February 19, 2020 #2498 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, kendon said: This, I don't understand!! Passengers let off the ship at the same time others are testing positive....WOW!!! Frightening!!! Yeap, I don't understand it either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two4Sea Posted February 19, 2020 #2499 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, kathy49 said: Yep taping the vents after cabin after cabin test positive...pretty obvious. Yes, pretty obvious that as the cabins don't exhaust to the hall, the original report of taping likely refers to some other type of vent ...perhaps the hall ventilation being stopped? We've only been handed the original person's interpretation of what they saw. What we make of their words unfortunately can't be any sounder than their amateur impression, only info from more knowledgeable sources can improve the conclusions. Bill Edited February 19, 2020 by Two4Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent9xxx1 Posted February 19, 2020 #2500 Share Posted February 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, bluesea321 said: Yeap, I don't understand it either. Who is in charge of disembarkation? Princess or Japan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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