Adawn47 Posted July 16, 2020 #101 Share Posted July 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, grapau27 said: I hope it hasn't put her off because there is a lot of nice posters on here but she did seem upset with that poster which is sad. I come across at least 1 obnoxious stirring wind up merchant on RCL and Princess forums as well. I've only been a member for 5/6 months but I've spotted two. Thank goodness they only jump in occasionally. I try to ignore them but sometimes they say something and I just can't zip it 😠. I'm a gentle soul really😇 Avril 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 16, 2020 #102 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Adawn47 said: I've only been a member for 5/6 months but I've spotted two. Thank goodness they only jump in occasionally. I try to ignore them but sometimes they say something and I just can't zip it 😠. I'm a gentle soul really😇 Avril I was drawn in a couple of times during my early days on RCL forums and thought of leaving but after wasting time replying to trolls I decided to just ignore them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted July 16, 2020 #103 Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, grapau27 said: I was drawn in a couple of times during my early days on RCL forums and thought of leaving but after wasting time replying to trolls I decided to just ignore them. It wouldn't make me consider leaving this forum. There are many lovely people on here and some real jokers too. I feel very comfortable. My gran had a saying. In every bushel of apples you'll always find a worm😊 Avril 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 16, 2020 #104 Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Adawn47 said: It wouldn't make me consider leaving this forum. There are many lovely people on here and some real jokers too. I feel very comfortable. My gran had a saying. In every bushel of apples you'll always find a worm😊 Avril Good,true saying. I agree with you on this forum there are a lot of nice people. On RCL forums it is mainly Americans posting and there were a few anonymous trouble makers when I started posting but I found after a few months of ignoring them I made a lot of good friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercury7289 Posted July 16, 2020 #105 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Adawn47 said: It wouldn't make me consider leaving this forum. There are many lovely people on here and some real jokers too. I feel very comfortable. My gran had a saying. In every bushel of apples you'll always find a worm😊 Avril Avil, It's a nice night I am just going for a sliver! Pesky birds! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercury7289 Posted July 16, 2020 #106 Share Posted July 16, 2020 32 minutes ago, mercury7289 said: Avil, It's a nice night I am just going for a sliver! Pesky birds! Avril!! Sorry! to much mulch! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cox Posted July 17, 2020 #107 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Back to the topic, I'm still undecided on returning to cruising. Much better news recently about vaccines though - encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted July 17, 2020 #108 Share Posted July 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jim Cox said: Back to the topic, I'm still undecided on returning to cruising. Much better news recently about vaccines though - encouraging. I think that one's opinion depends on what you read https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-vaccine-merck-co/merck-ceo-says-raising-covid-19-vaccine-hopes-a-grave-disservice-report-idUKKCN24F2S4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eddie99 Posted July 17, 2020 #109 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I try to be open-minded, even optimistic, about a vaccine but then I remember that the common cold is a coronavirus and that the whole world has been trying hard to find a vaccine for that for decades. Imagine the economic benefits of eliminating colds. But, that’s never happened ... It’s not a walk in the park. I don’t envisage myself cruising again 😕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisenewbie1976 Posted July 17, 2020 #110 Share Posted July 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, Eddie99 said: I try to be open-minded, even optimistic, about a vaccine but then I remember that the common cold is a coronavirus and that the whole world has been trying hard to find a vaccine for that for decades. Imagine the economic benefits of eliminating colds. But, that’s never happened ... It’s not a walk in the park. I don’t envisage myself cruising again 😕 Have they been trying to find a vaccine for the common cold? I'm not sure there's such a desperate need for it. I'm not even sure what the economic benefits would be either? A cold has never stopped me doing anything I'd normally do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Anarchy Posted July 17, 2020 #111 Share Posted July 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, Eddie99 said: I try to be open-minded, even optimistic, about a vaccine but then I remember that the common cold is a coronavirus and that the whole world has been trying hard to find a vaccine for that for decades. Imagine the economic benefits of eliminating colds. But, that’s never happened ... It’s not a walk in the park. I don’t envisage myself cruising again 😕 Although I'm usually a glass half full sort of person, my thoughts regarding are vaccine are exactly the same. People will have to make their own choices based upon their own circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eddie99 Posted July 17, 2020 #112 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, cruisenewbie1976 said: Have they been trying to find a vaccine for the common cold? I'm not sure there's such a desperate need for it. I'm not even sure what the economic benefits would be either? A cold has never stopped me doing anything I'd normally do. Goodness me, yes. Here’s the UK research establishment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Cold_Unit https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/stories-48923865/why-thousands-went-on-holiday-to-the-common-cold-unit People react differently and there are different colds. They often used to floor me - and potentially lead on to more severe RTIs. The economic loss - all those people, all those days off, all that potential under-performing - plus the human misery. I’d describe myself as a glass half-full person too. So my positives are that I, and my family, are well and thus far untouched by the virus. We have coped through lockdown, things appear to be easing, very, very gradually, which suits me. To be honest, though I loved my cruising, and had a lot booked (should have been on Iona, returning from the fiords, today) I’ve changed my focus/lowered my expectations in that regard Highlight of this week is lunch today - in the pub beer garden Edited July 17, 2020 by Eddie99 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted July 17, 2020 #113 Share Posted July 17, 2020 53 minutes ago, wowzz said: I think that one's opinion depends on what you read https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-vaccine-merck-co/merck-ceo-says-raising-covid-19-vaccine-hopes-a-grave-disservice-report-idUKKCN24F2S4 Of course one could argue that a company executive of a pharma company that's lagging behind in its vaccine research, might try to downplay the current progress..............just saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted July 17, 2020 #114 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, terrierjohn said: Of course one could argue that a company executive of a pharma company that's lagging behind in its vaccine research, might try to downplay the current progress..............just saying. Or being realistic.............? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted July 17, 2020 #115 Share Posted July 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, cruisenewbie1976 said: Have they been trying to find a vaccine for the common cold? I'm not sure there's such a desperate need for it. I'm not even sure what the economic benefits would be either? A cold has never stopped me doing anything I'd normally do. And of course the other argument is that cold remedy medicines are some of the most profitable over the counter products, so no real incentive to kill off the common cold for good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisenewbie1976 Posted July 17, 2020 #116 Share Posted July 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Eddie99 said: Goodness me, yes. Here’s the UK research establishment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Cold_Unit https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/stories-48923865/why-thousands-went-on-holiday-to-the-common-cold-unit People react differently and there are different colds. They often used to floor me - and potentially lead on to more severe RTIs. The economic loss - all those people, all those days off, all that potential under-performing - plus the human misery. Hmmmm interesting. It's something I've never really thought about as I don't think I've ever felt particularly bad with a cold. I tend to be able to soldier on through most things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisenewbie1976 Posted July 17, 2020 #117 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, wowzz said: Or being realistic.............? Being realistic doesn't mean you've got to take the most negative stories as the most factual. Lots of people have an agenda. There's very good news coming out of Oxford. Think we've just got to wait and see. But I'd much rather have a bit of hope and positivity than be the person who wants to post doom and gloom as though its hard fact. Edited July 17, 2020 by cruisenewbie1976 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eddie99 Posted July 17, 2020 #118 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Is anyone doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisenewbie1976 Posted July 17, 2020 #119 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Eddie99 said: Is anyone doing that? I didn't say they were, just saying which person I'd rather be 😉 I absolutely didn't mean you, by the way! It wasn't aimed at anyone. Most of what I say is with a hint of sarcasm but I know that's easily misinterpreted via written text. Edited July 17, 2020 by cruisenewbie1976 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted July 17, 2020 #120 Share Posted July 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, cruisenewbie1976 said: Being realistic doesn't mean you've got to take the most negative stories as the most factual. Lots of people have an agenda. There's very good news coming out of Oxford. Think we've just got to wait and see. But I'd much rather have a bit of hope and positivity than be the person who wants to post doom and gloom as thought its hard fact. 3 minutes ago, Eddie99 said: Is anyone doing that? Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and everyone is entitled to query them, its a forum for open discussion, and may the best man, sorry 2 legged humanoid, win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted July 17, 2020 #121 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I certainly hope that the news from Oxford will result in a successful outcome, but it is important to keep a sense of balance, and not only report the positive news stories. And now, with my half empty glass in front of me, is anyone else slightly worried about the fact that the possible long term side effects of these new vaccines are not yet appreciated, given the speed with which the trials are progressing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnieC Posted July 17, 2020 #122 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and everyone is entitled to query them, its a forum for open discussion, and may the best man, sorry 2 legged humanoid, win. This morning I have self-identified as the forum's equality, diversity and inclusion officer and this post is in an appalling affront to those with only one leg, let alone those with none at all. You have now been cancelled. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted July 17, 2020 #123 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, wowzz said: I certainly hope that the news from Oxford will result in a successful outcome, but it is important to keep a sense of balance, and not only report the positive news stories. And now, with my half empty glass in front of me, is anyone else slightly worried about the fact that the possible long term side effects of these new vaccines are not yet appreciated, given the speed with which the trials are progressing ? I guess you won't be volunteering to be a guinea pig for any new vaccine then wowzz, mind you I doubt I will either, but that's more down to age and fact that I am my wife's sole carer. than major concerns about any safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted July 17, 2020 #124 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, AnnieC said: This morning I have self-identified as the forum's equality, diversity and inclusion officer and this post is in an appalling affront to those with only one leg, let alone those with none at all. You have now been cancelled. Oops, sorry Annie, I will try to be better in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted July 17, 2020 #125 Share Posted July 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, AnnieC said: This morning I have self-identified as the forum's equality, diversity and inclusion officer and this post is in an appalling affront to those with only one leg, let alone those with none at all. You have now been cancelled. I have self identified as a Newt, and later today I will be attempting to live up to that well known phrase referring to my drinking ability. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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