SBS - Cruise pandemic doco -MV Greg Mortimer

[aussielozzie18]

Since you are all avoiding the Ch7 Cruising special tomorrow night, you might instead be interested in what SBS is offering on the subject.

 

SBS Dateline on Tuesday at 9.30pm is running a 2 part look at the MV Greg Mortimer which departed Ushuaia Argentina in March this year and then was hit by port closures and covid.  

 

Dateline: Deadly trip of a lifetime 

 

"This is a sobering story,  responsibly told, that speaks quietly yet eloquently to the professionalism and compassion of those who saved many lives against long odds"

 

Also available on SBS demand

[MMDown Under]

You have to love the Public Broadcaster.  This is the story I have wanted to know ever since I heard that a small ship was plagued with the virus.  I like Dateline and trust SBS to produce a professional and informative series.

[Ondine]

https://lighthouse.mq.edu.au/article/june-2020/81-of-COVID-positive-passengers-on-Antarctic-cruise-ship-had-no-symptoms-new-study

 

This is a link to one article written by a passenger on the cruise.  I did read another one some time ago which was virtually a day by day summary of the cruise written by a doctor (passenger).  The interesting thing was that many of the passengers had medical backgrounds either doctors or dentists so I imagine that cleanliness was not a problem.  There are many informative articles available which are not sensation seeking.

[OzKiwiJJ]

That article is an eye-opener indeed. 

[getting older slowly]

32 minutes ago, Ondine said:

https://lighthouse.mq.edu.au/article/june-2020/81-of-COVID-positive-passengers-on-Antarctic-cruise-ship-had-no-symptoms-new-study

 

This is a link to one article written by a passenger on the cruise.  I did read another one some time ago which was virtually a day by day summary of the cruise written by a doctor (passenger).  The interesting thing was that many of the passengers had medical backgrounds either doctors or dentists so I imagine that cleanliness was not a problem.  There are many informative articles available which are not sensation seeking.

Thanks an interesting read.....

 

It does bring into question the way the whole Covid-19 reponds has been handled....

 

Don

Edited October 10, 2020 by getting older slowly

[MMDown Under]

Thanks for linking the interesting article.  What a gain for the world to have access to the  medical paper written by a doctor on his observations from being on board. 

I know in the US people couldn't get tested unless they had symptoms.

I saw an interesting TV story on a home for the disabled in the UK where the owner wouldn't accept aged patients being transferred from hospitals, despite pressure from the health auths.  The patients were said to be free of the virus.  Afterwards the virus spread through the aged care homes, with record loss of life, whilst his home for the disabled remained virus free.  

[MicCanberra]

Interesting. Will look out for it.

 

[lyndarra]

On 10/10/2020 at 9:42 AM, aussielozzie18 said:

Since you are all avoiding the Ch7 Cruising special tomorrow night.

I don't mind admitting - not all of us.

 

 

[OzKiwiJJ]

2 hours ago, lyndarra said:

I don't mind admitting - not all of us.

 

 

Would you please take notes and post a summary?

[NSWP]

I will watch it, I had better stick to just one bottle of cab sav, lest I crash out asleep again by 1930 hrs, post nachos I will be making.

 

Edited October 11, 2020 by NSWP

[ilikeanswers]

On 10/10/2020 at 9:42 AM, aussielozzie18 said:

Since you are all avoiding the Ch7 Cruising special tomorrow night, you might instead be interested in what SBS is offering on the subject.

 

I will watch SBS because I am quite interested in this particualr story but I will check out CH 7 as the footage on the ads of the cruise ships at the scrap yards looks fascinating so I am intrigued what they will say about it.

[MicCanberra]

Those videos of scrapping ships, including cruise ships are fascinating.

[banzaii]

On 10/10/2020 at 1:36 PM, getting older slowly said:

Thanks an interesting read.....

 

It does bring into question the way the whole Covid-19 reponds has been handled....

 

Don

What I find interesting is that MV Greg Mortimer became a Covid19 bubble - where Covid was on the inside.  This provides a rather unique example of how the virus behaves over almost a month despite isolation.

 

Most interesting was how 10 shared cabins had mixed results of 1 positive and 1 negative despite the occupants 'isolating' together.  This suggests that either some people have a natural immunity, or accepted transmission methods do not always work.

[getting older slowly]

2 minutes ago, banzaii said:

What I find interesting is that MV Greg Mortimer became a Covid19 bubble - where Covid was on the inside.  This provides a rather unique example of how the virus behaves over almost a month despite isolation.

 

Most interesting was how 10 shared cabins had mixed results of 1 positive and 1 negative despite the occupants 'isolating' together.  This suggests that either some people have a natural immunity, or accepted transmission methods do not always work.

 

Absolutely agreed.....Masks and social distancing have help for sure......

 

But  do we really understand it.... I feel that is the question....

 

Should they test everyone....?? 

and what if 25% of the population come up asymptomatic... what do we do ??? 

 

Fingers crossed no more mexican waves.......... Don

[Ondine]

6 minutes ago, banzaii said:

What I find interesting is that MV Greg Mortimer became a Covid19 bubble - where Covid was on the inside.  This provides a rather unique example of how the virus behaves over almost a month despite isolation.

 

Most interesting was how 10 shared cabins had mixed results of 1 positive and 1 negative despite the occupants 'isolating' together.  This suggests that either some people have a natural immunity, or accepted transmission methods do not always work.

I remember the TV interview with the couple off the Ruby Princess where the husband was suffering from the virus and the wife was negative.  I believe that it is not uncommon in a family for some to remain negative. 

[ilikeanswers]

Turns out the SBS dateline episode is two parts. So far I think it was pretty good and interesting to hear what was happening in the ship. It is is good to get a detailed account of the events of Greg Mortimer🤔.

[aussielozzie18]

Looking forward to part 2 but the snow effect throughout was annoying.

[ilikeanswers]

4 minutes ago, aussielozzie18 said:

the snow effect throughout was annoying.

 

Yes I did notice that. I think they were trying to go for that sort of amature film look but it ended up looking really odd.

Edited October 13, 2020 by ilikeanswers

[MicCanberra]

I found it a reasonable piece of journalism, not taking one side or the other, just reporting the story via people's accounts of what happened.

[NSWP]

$15,000 a ticket on the Greg Mortimer, the reason why so many doctors and dentists and lawyers on board, they have the big $$$$.

Plus airfares to South America, business class of course for the above.

Edited October 15, 2020 by NSWP

[pully8]

Watched the story albeit the 1st part, will have to wait for the 2nd.

beautiful scenery but sad that people became infected on the cruise.

Must have been very difficult for staff and passengers.

From memory there were a few larger ships caught up in South America at the time, some were posting on cruise critic? 

 

[NSWP]

33 minutes ago, pully8 said:

Watched the story albeit the 1st part, will have to wait for the 2nd.

beautiful scenery but sad that people became infected on the cruise.

Must have been very difficult for staff and passengers.

From memory there were a few larger ships caught up in South America at the time, some were posting on cruise critic? 

 

There were some large cruise ships, but they dont gonrightvdown tobthe ice.

 

My son had a charter, think it was Ocean Atlantic, 150 pax and got them out on  a chartered LAN plane from Buenos Aires, with guests from one of his land tours to Macchu Picchu. Stressfull times for us.

Edited October 15, 2020 by NSWP

[NSWP]

Re the ch7 doco, I was cranky when transplant lady came on, apologising for spreading the virus, she did not go to ships dr because she said they charge like a wounded bull, typical bogan. And no doubt ch7 gave her 20 grand for her short appearance.

 

Probably had no travel insurance or too mean to pay the  excess.

Edited October 15, 2020 by NSWP

[MicCanberra]

Yet Princess's medical said they were not charging anyone presenting with flu like symptoms.

[Docker123]

I found the sbs documentary very interesting. Clearly not the sensationalised stuff we have seen previously.

 

The focus on the 2 doctors provided a strong professional base.  The interviews with the poor bloke who lost his wife and the cabin attendant brought a strong personal element.

 

The company has not come out positively.