Indianadaytripper Posted February 18, 2021 #1 Share Posted February 18, 2021 In my view I see no reason to have a much different cruising experience ONBOARD. With a 100% inoculated passengers and crew fully vaccinated 14 days before and tested prior to sailing. Visiting in other nations, their rules would have to adhered too. Imagine working out on a bike, or treadmill, or on the walking deck with a mask on in 90 degree heat. Not a fun cruise. This of course, are just my thoughts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted February 18, 2021 #2 Share Posted February 18, 2021 There are many threads on the topic...here is one that is well established: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianadaytripper Posted February 18, 2021 Author #3 Share Posted February 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, CruiserBruce said: There are many threads on the topic...here is one that is well established: Looks like that thread went completely off topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leerathje Posted February 18, 2021 #4 Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Indianadaytripper said: In my view I see no reason to have a much different cruising experience ONBOARD. With a 100% inoculated passengers and crew fully vaccinated 14 days before and tested prior to sailing. Visiting in other nations, their rules would have to adhered too. Imagine working out on a bike, or treadmill, or on the walking deck with a mask on in 90 degree heat. Not a fun cruise. This of course, are just my thoughts. Is the US vaccinating non-citizens? How would the crew members get vaccinated? L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted February 18, 2021 #5 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Because the initial vaccine trials were not set up to assess how well (or even whether) the vaccine PREVENTS someone spreading the virus, I expect that cruise lines will continue to require masks and social distancing for a while -- some have already come out with their initial guidance to guests that states this. What the vaccine does do effectively is minimize or prevent serious symptoms in vaccinated people who are exposed. Regarding crew -- again, I know that at least one line has said all crew will be vaccinated but they did not elaborate on any plans for how this would actually take place. Most countries are scrambling to get as many doses as they can for their own citizens. It's hard to imagine that they will be very willing to vaccinate non-citizens, at least not for the next 6-8 months. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted February 18, 2021 #6 Share Posted February 18, 2021 51 minutes ago, leerathje said: Is the US vaccinating non-citizens? How would the crew members get vaccinated? L. The cruise lines would have to secure the vaccine, or the employee would seek vaccine in their home country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianadaytripper Posted February 18, 2021 Author #7 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, leerathje said: Is the US vaccinating non-citizens? How would the crew members get vaccinated? L. I believe some of the states are vaccinating everyone when there criteria comes up. My thought is the cruise companies would be required to vaccinate all crew members. All passengers would have that requirement placed upon themselves. Just like any other vaccination requirements. This also would be from anyone boarding. These vaccines will be available to everyone in the picture eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted February 18, 2021 #8 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Indianadaytripper said: eventually. BIG word Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted February 18, 2021 #9 Share Posted February 18, 2021 RCCL already has said crew will have to be vaccinated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted February 18, 2021 #10 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, rafinmd said: BIG word Roy Patience, it takes a while to make and distribute 600 million plus doses. Edited February 18, 2021 by KirkNC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted February 18, 2021 #11 Share Posted February 18, 2021 39 minutes ago, KirkNC said: Patience, it takes a while to make and distribute 600 million plus doses. And you also have to have the weather cooperate, which does not seem to be happening this winter. We had our first vaccines, and were scheduled for our seconds tomorrow afternoon, but got a postponement call. Now, weather permitting, we are scheduled for March 1st. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted February 18, 2021 #12 Share Posted February 18, 2021 54 minutes ago, ontheweb said: And you also have to have the weather cooperate, which does not seem to be happening this winter. We had our first vaccines, and were scheduled for our seconds tomorrow afternoon, but got a postponement call. Now, weather permitting, we are scheduled for March 1st. I would not like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowelf Posted February 18, 2021 #13 Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, KirkNC said: I would not like that! But what can you do. Major transportation hubs for both FedEx and UPS are right in the middle of the worst of the current winter weather. I saw a news article today that had some official stating that they were going to send National Guard Troops to pick up the vaccine and transport it back to their state. Another said she had to close all her vaccination centers for tomorrow, because the had no vaccine left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted February 19, 2021 #14 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I understand it no one fault. I would hate to go six weeks between shots when the protocol is four weeks. Probably doesn’t matter but who knows. I would have hoped they could catchup quicker. After all, the disrupted distribution should catch up next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted February 19, 2021 #15 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Interesting article on the aggressive stance of the Indonesian government concerning Covid vaccination. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/indonesia-makes-covid-19-vaccines-compulsory-allows-for-private-vaccination 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted February 19, 2021 #16 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, ontheweb said: And you also have to have the weather cooperate, which does not seem to be happening this winter. We had our first vaccines, and were scheduled for our seconds tomorrow afternoon, but got a postponement call. Now, weather permitting, we are scheduled for March 1st. I am in Texas and mine was postponed from Friday to Sunday. I lucked into the absolute best hub to be vaccinated, these guys take their role in saving the world very seriously. Kudos to the Allen Texas fires department 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaHunt Posted February 19, 2021 #17 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, ontheweb said: And you also have to have the weather cooperate, which does not seem to be happening this winter. We had our first vaccines, and were scheduled for our seconds tomorrow afternoon, but got a postponement call. Now, weather permitting, we are scheduled for March 1st. Happened to our county in FL also - we were supposed to get our second Moderna tomorrow, but now postponed to Feb 27 😞 Also Crystal has also now said all guests must be vaccinated: "Crystal Cruises has confirmed it will now require all guests to be fully inoculated with a COVID-19 vaccine at least 14 days prior to their Crystal cruise. Guests will need to provide proof of vaccination before embarkation and must have received both doses of the vaccine if recommended by the manufacturer by that timeline, the company said". https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24410-crystal-cruises-to-require-covid-19-vaccine-for-guests.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredT Posted February 19, 2021 #18 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I also just got the e-mail from Crystal..... They spell it out REALLY clearly. No vaccine... no cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted February 19, 2021 #19 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Good, that gives other lines some cover. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl Posted February 19, 2021 #20 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I, for one, Hope they require vaccinations. I would feel much safer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianadaytripper Posted February 19, 2021 Author #21 Share Posted February 19, 2021 7 hours ago, cruisegirl said: I, for one, Hope they require vaccinations. I would feel much safer. I believe it would be irresponsible for any cruise line not to do just that. It won’t be popular with some. For those they do have a choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted February 19, 2021 #22 Share Posted February 19, 2021 12 hours ago, KirkNC said: I would not like that! DW definitely not only does not like that, she absolutely HATES it! She was super fine with Friday shots since if there was a reaction it would not cause her to miss a teaching day. (I think the last time she took a sick day was when she had emergency surgery, and that was not this century.) Also she cited the 28 days you were supposed to have between the Moderna vaccines. I reassured here when I read somewhere on these boards that it is supposed to be within 42 days, We better not have another delay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianadaytripper Posted February 19, 2021 Author #23 Share Posted February 19, 2021 World cruise travelers May be the first Holland American passengers to have to be 100% inoculated because most ports of call will require it. But it could happen sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted February 19, 2021 #24 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Indianadaytripper said: World cruise travelers May be the first Holland American passengers to have to be 100% inoculated because most ports of call will require it. But it could happen sooner. Nobody knows. All speculation at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyInVan Posted February 19, 2021 #25 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Cruise companies can demand 100% inoculation. But, will still need to observe masking/distancing. Pfizer/Moderna may provide 95% protection against serious symptoms. But, that means 1/20 is unprotected. On a 4k passenger ship, that's 200 pax. Let's not repeat the Ruby Princess disaster. In addition, there will be fake documents. Already available in Mexico... https://ca.yahoo.com/news/two-air-passengers-fined-10k-201253990.html Those poor fellow travelers on the plane!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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