Rare Ethanol95 Posted February 14, 2023 #126 Share Posted February 14, 2023 8 hours ago, xtremegk said: Maybe I'm completely in left field here, with the discussion of homeporting...is there any chance Utopia ends up in Asia? Wonder was initially designed for the Asian market. The work put into converting her back to the NA market makes me think they won't "undo" it to send her once things open. Bayley suggested in the earnings call that 2024 was the realistic expectation for the Chinese market returning. Obviously, they once intended for an Oasis class ship to head over there. Sure, things have changed drastically with COVID, but if they're expecting a rebound once the market reopens, would they not plan on sending a similar class vessel? Just spitballing and could be completely off base. Many of you on here have far better insight into this than I. Utopia is not going to Asia. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted February 14, 2023 #127 Share Posted February 14, 2023 13 hours ago, xtremegk said: Maybe I'm completely in left field here, with the discussion of homeporting...is there any chance Utopia ends up in Asia? The market in Asia is currently still "dead". Wonder was specifically designed for the Asian (Chinese) market. Utopia isn´t. I doubt they will make the same mistake again. steamboats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tough as Leather Posted February 14, 2023 #128 Share Posted February 14, 2023 A bow section was installed. 📸 Christian Plagué 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted February 14, 2023 Author #129 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Tough as Leather said: A bow section was installed. 📸 Christian Plagué Yup. This bow section. 😄 📷 Andrey Fesak Edited February 14, 2023 by Lloyd555 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted February 24, 2023 Author #130 Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniMSCRoyal_85 Posted March 2, 2023 #131 Share Posted March 2, 2023 @Lloyd555 Update: https://www.instagram.com/p/CpNmqrqo2t2/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted March 2, 2023 Author #132 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) Shouldn't that be UTOPIA and not UTOPIA ? Edited March 2, 2023 by Lloyd555 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted March 2, 2023 #133 Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Lloyd555 said: Shouldn't that be UTOPIA and not UTOPIA ? They went from real big on Wonder to tiny here 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted March 2, 2023 #134 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Going PC maybe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaviationbeat Posted March 2, 2023 #135 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Yeah this doesn't look right. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsjosh Posted March 3, 2023 #136 Share Posted March 3, 2023 It's so the guy that has to paint the big one on knows how to spell it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted March 14, 2023 Author #137 Share Posted March 14, 2023 📷 Christophe Dedieu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 22, 2023 #138 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) On 3/2/2023 at 2:44 PM, molly361 said: Going PC maybe? That's the buzz on FB. Replacing Allure for the 3 and 4 night sailings. WOW Late June 2024 Edited March 22, 2023 by John&LaLa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightOne Posted March 22, 2023 #139 Share Posted March 22, 2023 17 hours ago, John&LaLa said: That's the buzz on FB. Replacing Allure for the 3 and 4 night sailings. WOW Late June 2024 I keep seeing that too but I am not believing it. No way Royal is going to roll out Utopia doing 3/4 night cruises. No way. Not going to happen. Hopefully this post ages well. LOL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkySal Posted March 22, 2023 #140 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Utopia is the one I'd like to experience as soon as she's ready! I could care less about Icon but DH says he'd like to cruise Icon at least once. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 22, 2023 #141 Share Posted March 22, 2023 4 hours ago, NightOne said: I keep seeing that too but I am not believing it. No way Royal is going to roll out Utopia doing 3/4 night cruises. No way. Not going to happen. Hopefully this post ages well. LOL Apparently Allure is already bookable in Miami on the 3/4 day route. So I guess we'll see😉 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightOne Posted March 23, 2023 #142 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Apparently Allure is already bookable in Miami on the 3/4 day route. So I guess we'll see😉 I saw that but feel that it means absolutely nothing. Royal wanted to offer an Oasis class experience on short sailings and they did that. However, they are not going to do that with a brand new ship. You know Royal a hell of a lot better than me. Have they ever debuted a ship doing short cruises? If not, why would they start now? Makes absolutely zero sense in my mind. Just my opinion. Edited March 23, 2023 by NightOne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 23, 2023 #143 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, NightOne said: I saw that but feel that it means absolutely nothing. Royal wanted to offer an Oasis class experience on short sailings and they did that. However, they are not going to do that with a brand new ship. You know Royal a hell of a lot better than me. Have they ever debuted a ship doing short cruises? If not, why would they start now? Makes absolutely zero sense in my mind. Just my opinion. I'm guessing Allure being non amped didn’t fit the bill. So bring on Utopia. 🤣 Short cruises are immensely popular in PC market. People do them in conjunction with Disney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted March 23, 2023 #144 Share Posted March 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, NightOne said: I saw that but feel that it means absolutely nothing. Royal wanted to offer an Oasis class experience on short sailings and they did that. However, they are not going to do that with a brand new ship. You know Royal a hell of a lot better than me. Have they ever debuted a ship doing short cruises? If not, why would they start now? Makes absolutely zero sense in my mind. Just my opinion. Which ship do you imagine will take over the 3/4 night sailings from Port Canaveral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightOne Posted March 23, 2023 #145 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, John&LaLa said: I'm guessing Allure being non amped didn’t fit the bill. So bring on Utopia. 🤣 Short cruises are immensely popular in PC market. People do them in conjunction with Disney. I don't doubt that. It is just the whole new ship debut thing that has me in disbelief. I got a timeslot saved for a Utopia booking and if it ends up being 3/4 then I will just have to book B2B but would much rather go further South on a 7 or 8 day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightOne Posted March 23, 2023 #146 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, OfTheSeasCruiser said: Which ship do you imagine will take over the 3/4 night sailings from Port Canaveral? No clue 🙂 Some other ship in the fleet LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted March 23, 2023 #147 Share Posted March 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, NightOne said: No clue 🙂 Some other ship in the fleet LOL Ok, well, the only ship available after Allure leaves PC in July (without them leaving a gap during prime Summer season) is Spectrum, which is sure to remain in Asia. If you monitor deployment, you’d see that Utopia is the likely ship to replace Allure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightOne Posted March 23, 2023 #148 Share Posted March 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, OfTheSeasCruiser said: Ok, well, the only ship available after Allure leaves PC in July (without them leaving a gap during prime Summer season) is Spectrum, which is sure to remain in Asia. If you monitor deployment, you’d see that Utopia is the likely ship to replace Allure. Current deployments mean nothing in my opinion. The cruise lines have shown many times that they are willing to flip ships, pull out of ports, and re-deploy as they see fit. Utopia COULD take over the sailings of another Oasis class ship and then that ship heads to PC for 3/4 nighters. 😉 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted March 23, 2023 #149 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NightOne said: Current deployments mean nothing in my opinion. The cruise lines have shown many times that they are willing to flip ships, pull out of ports, and re-deploy as they see fit. Utopia COULD take over the sailings of another Oasis class ship and then that ship heads to PC for 3/4 nighters. 😉 Why would they move Allure mid-summer if it weren’t for a new ship coming into replace her that just so happens to be debuting at the same time? Edited March 23, 2023 by OfTheSeasCruiser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightOne Posted March 23, 2023 #150 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, OfTheSeasCruiser said: Why would they move Allure mid-summer if it weren’t for a new ship coming into replace her that just so happens to be debuting at the same time? Why would they release an old premium package that was for Celebrity into the cruise planners of zillions of Royal bookings? LOL Who knows. Remember when everyone said Icon was going to be smaller than Oasis class and repeated that for many months? Remember all the back to sailing dates, rumors, etc. that never materialized during the shutdown? You can call me an idiot when Utopia debuts out of PC doing 3/4 nighters (or even now) but I just don't believe that will happen. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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