LF2C Posted August 21, 2015 #1501 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I appreciate that we live in a more and more "informal" world, where people have less and less opportunity, or reason to even bother getting dressed properly (I'm British), but for me, one of the nice things about cruising with a "better" cruise line, is that people will not only abide by the dress rules, but also want to have the opportunity to dress up a bit rather than dress down a lot. That doesn't mean "starchy" and "old fashioned", but it also doesn't mean turning up for dinner dressed like you've just been doing the garden, or been to the gym. Pet hate.........apart from people who won't accept the rules,..... men wearing baseball caps in the MDR, ughhhh :mad::mad::mad: I love Celebrity because the dress code is sensible (and for many other reasons) No offence meant and hopefully none taken ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingChick Posted August 21, 2015 #1502 Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) I appreciate that we live in a more and more "informal" world, where people have less and less opportunity, or reason to even bother getting dressed properly (I'm British), but for me, one of the nice things about cruising with a "better" cruise line, is that people will not only abide by the dress rules, but also want to have the opportunity to dress up a bit rather than dress down a lot.That doesn't mean "starchy" and "old fashioned", but it also doesn't mean turning up for dinner dressed like you've just been doing the garden, or been to the gym. Pet hate.........apart from people who won't accept the rules,..... men wearing baseball caps in the MDR, ughhhh :mad::mad::mad: I love Celebrity because the dress code is sensible (and for many other reasons) No offence meant and hopefully none taken ;) I agree. I hate that Celebrity even has the word "casual" in their dress code because most people take that to mean they can wear whatever they want and don't even read the dress code. It doesn't help the fact that Celebrity is not at all consistent on enforcing the dress code on their ships, etc. I've been on some ships where it is strictly enforced and other where they let anything go. Edited August 21, 2015 by CruisingChick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LF2C Posted August 21, 2015 #1503 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I agree. I hate that Celebrity even has the word "casual" in their dress code because most people take that to mean they can wear whatever they want and don't even read the dress code. It doesn't help the fact that Celebrity is not at all consistent on enforcing the dress code on their ships, etc. I've been on some ships where it is strictly enforced and other where they let anything go. The problem is that on some sailings, I understand that some passengers can become confrontational if challenged about their dress and rather than cause a scene, staff will back down....which is a great pity for the majority of us who understand and play by the "rules" Some years ago for a special birthday we went for a weekend break to London. I had no idea what the birthday treat was but my wife told me I had to pack not only a jacket, but also a tie! Otherwise the Saturday night surprise couldn't happen. I complied, and much to my surprise and pleasure, the taxi magical mystery tour ended at the Ritz, where we were booked in for the Saturday night dinner dance. Fabulous, even though I had to wear a tie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_Design Posted August 21, 2015 #1504 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Nice to see they still enjoy properly dressing for the occasion. Us Brits always know the right things - but dont need to be patronised [emoji32] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_Design Posted August 21, 2015 #1505 Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) Yes,but thee can be NO holes or tears in the fabric(and this includes purposely torn jeans, that come that way from the mfgr.) so how does one get ones legs in them ? [emoji41] 'mfgr' ??? Edited August 21, 2015 by LA_Design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted August 22, 2015 #1506 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Nice to see they still enjoy properly dressing for the occasion. Being properly dressed and enjoying it are two entirely different things. I really don't see a lot of 'enjoying' going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benchdex Posted August 22, 2015 #1507 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I agree. I hate that Celebrity even has the word "casual" in their dress code because most people take that to mean they can wear whatever they want and don't even read the dress code. It doesn't help the fact that Celebrity is not at all consistent on enforcing the dress code on their ships, etc. I've been on some ships where it is strictly enforced and other where they let anything go. The venue makes a big difference. Celebrity and all lines have a difficult situation. The object is to try to please all guests. Some want strict enforcement. Some resent any rules. I've seen some very unruly people when even the simplest request is made. The fact that this thread is so long speaks for itself. People seem to need hundreds of inputs to understand the rules. The Celebrity written dress code is really quite clear and has been fine tuned for the thousands of questions over time. It is a living document that has been edited and clarified as the culture on board changes. Bottom line. The cruiseline wants the greatest number of cruisers possible to enjoy each venue. Of course, even more attention is given to loyal, frequent cruisers, as Mwould be the case in any business. They have designed suitable alternatives for just about every taste. Up to, you can eat in the nude in your cabin. I think anyone making just the effort to read and follow the rules will be totally accepted and just fine. It almost takes deliberate disregard to cause any kind of stir. Really, dressing to the nines or minimal compliance with what is acceptable in each venue works great. Most people err on the side of bringing too much. I don't think this thread continuing to grow ad finitum will add any new enlightenment. What more can really be said? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybil66 Posted August 22, 2015 #1508 Share Posted August 22, 2015 The venue makes a big difference. Celebrity and all lines have a difficult situation. The object is to try to please all guests. Some want strict enforcement. Some resent any rules. I've seen some very unruly people when even the simplest request is made. The fact that this thread is so long speaks for itself. People seem to need hundreds of inputs to understand the rules. The Celebrity written dress code is really quite clear and has been fine tuned for the thousands of questions over time. It is a living document that has been edited and clarified as the culture on board changes. Bottom line. The cruiseline wants the greatest number of cruisers possible to enjoy each venue. Of course, even more attention is given to loyal, frequent cruisers, as Mwould be the case in any business. They have designed suitable alternatives for just about every taste. Up to, you can eat in the nude in your cabin. I think anyone making just the effort to read and follow the rules will be totally accepted and just fine. It almost takes deliberate disregard to cause any kind of stir. Really, dressing to the nines or minimal compliance with what is acceptable in each venue works great. Most people err on the side of bringing too much. I don't think this thread continuing to grow ad finitum will add any new enlightenment. What more can really be said? :-) Very well said [emoji4] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wine-O Posted August 22, 2015 #1509 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Being properly dressed and enjoying it are two entirely different things. I really don't see a lot of 'enjoying' going on. All the enjoyment for those who don't want to properly dress is probably being held up there at the buffet -- lots of enjoying going on up there. You can be comfortable wearing your t-shirt, shorts, and flip-flops. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsea Posted August 22, 2015 #1510 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Being properly dressed and enjoying it are two entirely different things. I really don't see a lot of 'enjoying' going on. And just how does one "see" enjoyment? Perhaps they should be scratching their crotch?, sporting their wife beater t shirts with smiles?, drunkenly gazing at the camera while holding their glasses up?:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted August 22, 2015 #1511 Share Posted August 22, 2015 And just how does one "see" enjoyment? Perhaps they should be scratching their crotch?, sporting their wife beater t shirts with smiles?, drunkenly gazing at the camera while holding their glasses up?:eek: Precisely my point. One cannot tell from looking at a picture whether people are enjoying the situation or not. Wearing a tuxedo does not automatically mean you're going to experience 'enjoyment'. I wore my first tuxedo in 1964 and it's been my experience that 'enjoyment' is dependent upon much more than what you or someone else is wearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_Design Posted August 23, 2015 #1512 Share Posted August 23, 2015 enjoying a Cruise and admitting it on here ? surely not [emoji12] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted August 24, 2015 #1513 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Being properly dressed and enjoying it are two entirely different things. I really don't see a lot of 'enjoying' going on. Looks to me as if they are waiting for drinks to be served. Also looks fairly early in the afternoon.I don't see anyone looking PO'd. If YOU do, well not sure what lens you see the world through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted August 24, 2015 #1514 Share Posted August 24, 2015 so how does one get ones legs in them ? [emoji41] 'mfgr' ??? mfgr(manufacturer)some make them purposly ripped & torn(and get more $$ for them!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_Design Posted August 24, 2015 #1515 Share Posted August 24, 2015 mfgr(manufacturer)some make them purposly ripped & torn(and get more $$ for them!) think you will find that the shortened version if manufacturer is mfr (and mfg for manufacturing )[emoji41] Any way I have holes in all my jeans - otherwise I wouldn't be able to get feet through the bottom of the legs [emoji12] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dx052 Posted August 26, 2015 #1516 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I am not 100% sure what the dress code is like in the main dining room on non formal nights? do most guys were trousers and a jacket? or I can it be a bit more casual than that? for instance could I wear jeans & a polo shirt or would I look out of place? does this also apply to the speciality dining rooms if we decided to go on a couple of nights ? I don't want to pack excessively if I can help, but at the same time I like to dress accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted August 26, 2015 #1517 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Absolutely no need for a jacket on non formal night in the MDR. Specialty restaurants never stipulate formal dress or jacket. Edited August 26, 2015 by Pushka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_T Posted August 26, 2015 #1518 Share Posted August 26, 2015 jeans & polo shirts are just fine anywhere on non-formal nights... And in the speciality restaurants on formal nights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted August 26, 2015 #1519 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Dockers will probably be seen much more than jeans..although not banned anymore. I think this inquiry will be moved to the dress discussion sticky at top of page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrekaus Posted August 26, 2015 #1520 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I have waded through 6 pages of this thread and found a lot of posts about US and European cruises. If anyone has done a Pacific cruise out of Sydney could they please post how formal formal night is. We are sailing on Solstice in November. Our first cruise was Princess 14 days to NZ. I did pack my suit and ties. We did the first formal night but skipped the second (bombe alaska night) purely because we wanted to see the Crew show and knew we would have problems getting a seat after 2nd sittting. Our Solstice cruise departs Sydney and we have to fly there so luggage restrictions. Also learnt on first cruise not to overpack (we took 5 pieces of luggage for the 14 days!!!). Any advice on formal night sailing Pacific greatly appreciated (what I really want to know is can I get away with shirt/tie and no jacket). Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted August 26, 2015 #1521 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I have waded through 6 pages of this thread and found a lot of posts about US and European cruises. If anyone has done a Pacific cruise out of Sydney could they please post how formal formal night is. We are sailing on Solstice in November. Our first cruise was Princess 14 days to NZ. I did pack my suit and ties. We did the first formal night but skipped the second (bombe alaska night) purely because we wanted to see the Crew show and knew we would have problems getting a seat after 2nd sittting. Our Solstice cruise departs Sydney and we have to fly there so luggage restrictions. Also learnt on first cruise not to overpack (we took 5 pieces of luggage for the 14 days!!!). Any advice on formal night sailing Pacific greatly appreciated (what I really want to know is can I get away with shirt/tie and no jacket). Thanks On any Celebrity cruise a jacket is required on formal nights in the MDR only, not the Specialties or the buffet. Celebrities enforcement is known for being consistently inconsistent, on some cruises they won't let you into the dining room without a jacket and on others you can walk right in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrekaus Posted August 26, 2015 #1522 Share Posted August 26, 2015 On any Celebrity cruise a jacket is required on formal nights in the MDR only, not the Specialties or the buffet. Celebrities enforcement is known for being consistently inconsistent, on some cruises they won't let you into the dining room without a jacket and on others you can walk right in. Thanks Don, I know that is the "norm", but cruising from Australia can be different which is why I asked the question. Btw I meant in the MDR, I get about the other dining options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dx052 Posted August 26, 2015 #1523 Share Posted August 26, 2015 many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingofcool1947 Posted August 26, 2015 #1524 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I have waded through 6 pages of this thread and found a lot of posts about US and European cruises. If anyone has done a Pacific cruise out of Sydney could they please post how formal formal night is. We are sailing on Solstice in November. Our first cruise was Princess 14 days to NZ. I did pack my suit and ties. We did the first formal night but skipped the second (bombe alaska night) purely because we wanted to see the Crew show and knew we would have problems getting a seat after 2nd sittting. Our Solstice cruise departs Sydney and we have to fly there so luggage restrictions. Also learnt on first cruise not to overpack (we took 5 pieces of luggage for the 14 days!!!). Any advice on formal night sailing Pacific greatly appreciated (what I really want to know is can I get away with shirt/tie and no jacket). Thanks Yes you can. On Formal Nights I saw gents in dressy Hawaiian shirts with a sport coats in the MDR. Once in, they took off their jackets. Unfortunately, no shorts or flip flops allowed at dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanb41 Posted August 26, 2015 #1525 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I have waded through 6 pages of this thread and found a lot of posts about US and European cruises. If anyone has done a Pacific cruise out of Sydney could they please post how formal formal night is. We are sailing on Solstice in November. Our first cruise was Princess 14 days to NZ. I did pack my suit and ties. We did the first formal night but skipped the second (bombe alaska night) purely because we wanted to see the Crew show and knew we would have problems getting a seat after 2nd sittting. Our Solstice cruise departs Sydney and we have to fly there so luggage restrictions. Also learnt on first cruise not to overpack (we took 5 pieces of luggage for the 14 days!!!). Any advice on formal night sailing Pacific greatly appreciated (what I really want to know is can I get away with shirt/tie and no jacket). Thanks I have done three cruises out of NZ on the Solstice and the Century. Whilst there a many who wear tuxes and female equivalents there are more that don't. A lounge suit for men is also common as is a sports jacket without tie. I am of the latter persuasion. Once seated I have removed my jacket and placed it on the back of my chair. I have never had an adverse comment passed nor even a snide remark or disapproving look. People on holiday are too busy enjoying themselves to be concerned what fellow passengers may or may not be wearing. Suffice to say if hubbie brings a sports jacket for wearing on formal nights in the MDR he wont feel or look out of place. To be honest the standard of dress is generally higher in the specialty restaurants. Whilst I didn't wear them I am sure that if one wore dress jeans and a jacket one would be admitted to the MDR on a formal night. Informality is becoming more the norm by evolution rather than revolution and in my opinion Maitre'ds are only buying a fight they have no wish for by being picky over dress standards. One has to remember that the end of cruise report is a significant deciding factor on staff future employment and no staff member wants adverse reporting. On one occasion we did see a teenager wearing a baseball cap and graphic slogan T shirt on one formal night but a quiet word after dinner saw the cap disappear and a plain T shirt next formal night. Hope that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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