Use of legally prescribed Marijuana on board

[ghstudio]

Tell that to the police when they are hauling you off the ship in handcuffs and take you to some awful foreign (or U.S.) jail.

 

I am sure they will listen to your legal expertise!

 

Certainly that depends on the country.

 

Alaska has legalized marijuana and there are many Celebrity cruises that stop in Vancouver with the rest of the stops in Alaska. No police would get involved because you are not breaking any state law. So this becomes a discussion of Celebrity policy and how that policy interacts with local laws. It's not so cut and dry.....generally local laws trump corporate policies. The situation I suggest may occur sooner than you expect.

 

Other countries have different views/laws but this is an evolving social change.

Edited June 3, 2015 by ghstudio

[Kamloops50]

Yeah, that's what we're discussing. Prescribed marijuana.

 

 

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It has to be a Doctor licensed in British Columbia to prescribe MJ. They also have to be licensed by Health Canada as well.\If I remember there also is a 30 day delay before you can buy after you have the doctor's perscription.

Edited June 3, 2015 by Kamloops50

[Cruise Junky]

It has to be a Doctor licensed in British Columbia to prescribe MJ. They also have to be licensed by Health Canada as well.\If I remember there also is a 30 day delay before you can buy after you have the doctor's persecution.

 

 

Haven't heard about the 30 days but I'm hearing it's very easy to get the prescription from a walk in clinic.

 

 

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[Kamloops50]

Haven't heard about the 30 days but I'm hearing it's very easy to get the prescription from a walk in clinic.

 

 

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Non-residents are charge about $200 office charge. You'll spend almost a full day waiting to see doctor in a walk-in clinic. Most clinics are full for the day within the first hour after opening. I've had to wait 4 hrs to see a Doctor in a walk-in Clinic one day . This is a fairly normal wait.

[Kamloops50]

Lol....why bring it with you. Vancouver alone has 80 medical marijuana stores. With the exchange rate, it's a steal ;)

 

 

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There are now more MR shops than Starbucks.

 

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[Charles4515]

Certainly that depends on the country.

 

Alaska has legalized marijuana and there are many Celebrity cruises that stop in Vancouver with the rest of the stops in Alaska. No police would get involved because you are not breaking any state law. So this becomes a discussion of Celebrity policy and how that policy interacts with local laws. It's not so cut and dry.....generally local laws trump corporate policies. The situation I suggest may occur sooner than you expect.

 

Other countries have different views/laws but this is an evolving social change.

 

And the country, the United States of America says it is illegal!!! The laws of the United States using your language, trumps state laws and local laws. Also the United States government has agents with police authority that could conceivably arrest you in Alaska. If customs for instance finds your MJ your a__ is grassed. Celebrity policy is following United States law so local law does not trump their policy!

[CineGraphic]

The Alaskan cruise route will become extremely popular once Alaska irons out all of the details of it's recent legalization of MJ.

 

On November 4, 2014, Alaskans voted 53-47% to end decades of harmful and ineffective marijuana prohibition, and replace it with a system in which marijuana is taxed and regulated like alcohol.

The initiative, which took effect on February 24, allows adults 21 years of age and older to possess up to one ounce of marijuana and grow up to six plants (three mature) in a private, secure location. Beginning in 2016, marijuana will be cultivated, tested, and sold by licensed, taxpaying businesses that require proof of age, instead of criminal enterprises in the underground market.

[DinaS]

The Alaskan cruise route will become extremely popular once Alaska irons out all of the details of it's recent legalization of MJ.

 

On November 4, 2014, Alaskans voted 53-47% to end decades of harmful and ineffective marijuana prohibition, and replace it with a system in which marijuana is taxed and regulated like alcohol.

The initiative, which took effect on February 24, allows adults 21 years of age and older to possess up to one ounce of marijuana and grow up to six plants (three mature) in a private, secure location. Beginning in 2016, marijuana will be cultivated, tested, and sold by licensed, taxpaying businesses that require proof of age, instead of criminal enterprises in the underground market.

 

You (and many others) don't seem to realize that no matter what Alaska does, you CANNOT bring marijuana on ANY ship or on ANY plane legally.

 

State laws have NOTHING to do with cruiselines and airlines.

[bigbenboys]

Times change and laws change over the years. This is what I found while doing some research. Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 which effectively banned its use and sales. While the Act was ruled unconstitutional years later, it was replaced with the Controlled Substances Act in the 1970’s which established Schedules for ranking substances according to their dangerousness and potential for addiction. Prior to 1937, cannabis had enjoyed a 5000 year stretch as a therapeutic agent across many cultures.

 

I live in Washington state where it is legal to buy at licensed stores. We will see what happens in the next 5 to 10 years.

[Memom04263]

There were people smoking Marijauna on our ship, next cabin to us and others on deck where you could smoke...

They never got kicked off.

[sanger727]

Keeping in mind that many things are banned from the cruise ship that are perfectly legal to own.... guns, knives, liquor not purchased through the ship, hairdryers, etc. my guess is due to the nature of its long history of being illegal and current illegality in many countries, if it ever does become federally legal, it will show up on the list of banned items.

 

People can try suing under the ADA I suppose, if they have a prescription and argue they can't sail without it.

 

I get drug tested at work, so that has been interesting to monitor how it's worked in Colorado. Seeing as how our contract specifically bans testing positive for a controlled substance without a prescription, I imagine they will have to take if off the controlled substance list before any of that will change.

 

 

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Edited December 30, 2016 by sanger727

[dkjretired]

I might be wrong but I think all Celebrity cruises stop at non-us ports. I don't think they're allowed to only stop at US ports.

While I'm sure that Celebrity doesn't allow pot smoking, I think in the event that they do, it will have to be in the designated smoking areas.

 

I have seen signs at the ports stating its not allowed on board. Also it is in the web site.

[gold1953]

Technically, if the ship makes a stop in Canada (such as some of the Alaskan cruises) and you don't get off the ship, you are not on canadian soil and you are not subject to canadian law. This is equally true in international airports where there is an international zone. Of course if you choose to pass through immigration, that's a different situation.

 

Additionally, it is not ILLEGAL to have marijuana on a Celebrity ship....it is their rules of passage that prohibit it.

 

I think it's somewhat inevitable that more states and even the federal government will legalize medical marijuana. Once that happens, the issue will almost certainly arise on cruises that leave from the United States.

 

However that's the future...I'm wondering what would happen now if you were found to have marijuana on board and you had a legal prescription for it. Would Celebrity challenge you? They would be prohibiting you from taking a medicine prescribed by your doctor.

 

Just raised the question for people to think how this will evolve.

 

If you are in a Canadian port you are under Canadian law. A couple of years ago Canadian authorities arrested a crew member for position of child porn and he was charged in court in Halifax.

[Charles4515]

There were people smoking Marijauna on our ship, next cabin to us and others on deck where you could smoke...

 

They never got kicked off.

 

 

They were lucky they didn't get kicked off.

 

Or questioned and searched at the debarkation port. On one of my cruises the local police came on in Florida and questioned a couple in a cabin a few doors down during debarkation. As they blocked the hallway we had to wait until the police were finished to leave our cabin. I kept hearing the word Marijuana thru the door. I don't know the outcome.

 

 

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[dkjretired]

The Alaskan cruise route will become extremely popular once Alaska irons out all of the details of it's recent legalization of MJ.

 

On November 4, 2014, Alaskans voted 53-47% to end decades of harmful and ineffective marijuana prohibition, and replace it with a system in which marijuana is taxed and regulated like alcohol.

The initiative, which took effect on February 24, allows adults 21 years of age and older to possess up to one ounce of marijuana and grow up to six plants (three mature) in a private, secure location. Beginning in 2016, marijuana will be cultivated, tested, and sold by licensed, taxpaying businesses that require proof of age, instead of criminal enterprises in the underground market.

 

Marijuana is currently illegal under federal law.which trumps state law. (No pun intended) Previous administrations did not have their justice department enforce the law. A new administration could THEORETICALLY enforce the law and close every business involved with Marijuana.

[Aquahound]

I have seen signs at the ports stating its not allowed on board. Also it is in the web site.

 

That's because MJ is a state regulated substance. Because it is still federally illegal, it cannot cross a state border....even between 2 states that allow it.

 

(note..notice the age of this thread)

[davekathy]

What was the question?

[donaldsc]

There were people smoking Marijauna on our ship, next cabin to us and others on deck where you could smoke...

They never got kicked off.

 

I would have reported the ones who were smoking in their cabin. Not much you could do about the ones on deck.

 

DON

[Charles4515]

I would have reported the ones who were smoking in their cabin. Not much you could do about the ones on deck.

 

DON

 

Which is why anyone smoking in their cabin or on deck is a fool. Anyone could report them and that could have serious ramifications for the users. At some ports the authorities will come onboard and search for drugs. They come onboard with sniffer dogs but they seem to know what cabins to check. Bermuda is an example. They don't check every cabin. I suspect they are tipped off by a passenger or crew member.

Edited December 30, 2016 by Charles4515

[A Sixth?]

Technically, if the ship makes a stop in Canada (such as some of the Alaskan cruises) and you don't get off the ship, you are not on canadian soil and you are not subject to canadian law. This is equally true in international airports where there is an international zone. Of course if you choose to pass through immigration, that's a different situation.

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What are you smoking?:p

[Charles4515]

What are you smoking?:p

 

Yes, that post was malarky. Passengers on ships docked in other countries are under that countries laws and their local laws apply. International zones in airports are under the jurisdiction of the country where they are located and local laws apply. Persons caught committing an unlawful act such as possession of drugs illegal in the airports country in the international zone are liable for prosecution in that country.

[A Sixth?]

Yes, that post was malarky. Passengers on ships docked in other countries are under that countries laws and their local laws apply. International zones in airports are under the jurisdiction of the country where they are located and local laws apply. Persons caught committing an unlawful act such as possession of drugs illegal in the airports country in the international zone are liable for prosecution in that country.

 

Right down there with "If I ask if you're a cop you have to tell me... "

 

:cool:

[dkjretired]

Right down there with "If I ask if you're a cop you have to tell me... "

 

:cool:

 

Which is actually a myth...

[dkjretired]

What are you smoking?:p

 

Tell that to the two gay men arrested a few years ago for having sex on ther balcony in a very gay unfriendly port.

[ghstudio]

Certainly that depends on the country.

 

Alaska has legalized marijuana and there are many Celebrity cruises that stop in Vancouver with the rest of the stops in Alaska. No police would get involved because you are not breaking any state law. So this becomes a discussion of Celebrity policy and how that policy interacts with local laws. It's not so cut and dry.....generally local laws trump corporate policies. The situation I suggest may occur sooner than you expect.

 

Other countries have different views/laws but this is an evolving social change.

 

Why not test this out? Try to carry a gun (with your concealed weapon permit) onto a celebrity ship when boarding in Florida....then enjoy discussing how local laws trump corporate policies while sitting on the dock watching your ship sail.

Edited December 30, 2016 by ghstudio