cathi007 Posted January 11, 2019 #1 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I just saw on the news that the Oasis of the Seas (Royal) cancelled the remainder of their cruise out of Port Canaveral. They are offering full refunds for all guests, apparently the Norovirus has struck. I am bringing a container of Clorox wipes on my cruise!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susandt Posted January 11, 2019 #2 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Clorox wipes won’t kill noro virus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqvol Posted January 11, 2019 #3 Share Posted January 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, cathi007 said: I just saw on the news that the Oasis of the Seas (Royal) cancelled the remainder of their cruise out of Port Canaveral. They are offering full refunds for all guests, apparently the Norovirus has struck. I am bringing a container of Clorox wipes on my cruise!! They canceled their last port because 250 passengers and crew out of 8000 are infected. Will spend all day Saturday in port disinfecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie562 Posted January 11, 2019 #4 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, zqvol said: They canceled their last port because 250 passengers and crew out of 8000 are infected. Will spend all day Saturday in port disinfecting. I wonder if some of the crew act as if they are sick so they won't have to work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathi007 Posted January 11, 2019 Author #5 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Susandt said: Clorox wipes won’t kill noro virus Any idea what will? Thanks I researched and it said a bleach based cleaner....might be bringing that, lol Edited January 11, 2019 by cathi007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weluv2cruise2gether Posted January 11, 2019 #6 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Susandt said: Clorox wipes won’t kill noro virus I am an ER nurse, we use Clorox wipes all the time. Actually, the CDC recommends bleach products (Clorox is bleach) for the Norovirus. I always travel with Clorox wipes, Lysol spray, and plenty of hand sanitizer. The best prevention on a cruise is to practice good hand hygiene. So, don't get angry with the happy-happy washy-washy people. Also, do not drink the water in foreign ports, always take a bottle of water from the ship. We were on the Gem in 2016 when the Norovirus broke out. Neither DH or myself contacted virus but we did go through 2 bottles of hand sanitizer, a pack of Clorox wipes and about 1/2 can of Lysol spray. And please, if you are ever on a cruise were there is Norovirus, and you get it, listen tot eh medical team and follow the quarantine! By not doing so, you put many others at risk. There were a few on the Gem that did not initially listen! Same advice for Influenza! Yes, it's that time of the year! Edited January 11, 2019 by Weluv2cruise2gether 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathi007 Posted January 11, 2019 Author #7 Share Posted January 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Weluv2cruise2gether said: I am an ER nurse, we use Clorox wipes all the time. Actually, the CDC recommends bleach products (Clorox is bleach) for the Norovirus. I always travel with Clorox wipes, Lysol spray, and plenty of hand sanitizer. The best prevention on a cruise is to practice good hand hygiene. So, don't get angry with the happy-happy washy-washy people. Also, do not drink the water in foreign ports, always take a bottle of water from the ship. We were on the Gem in 2016 when the Norovirus broke out. Neither DH or myself contacted virus but we did go through 2 bottles of hand sanitizer, a pack of Clorox wipes and about 1/2 can of Lysol spray. And please, if you are ever on a cruise were there is Norovirus, and you get it, listen tot eh medical team and follow the quarantine! By not doing so, you put many others at risk. There were a few on the Gem that did not initially listen! Same advice for Influenza! Yes, it's that time of the year! Thanks I will add Lysol spray and lots of hand sanitizer to my list. We are traveling with a cancer patient, so we can't be too careful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Kmkub Posted January 11, 2019 #8 Share Posted January 11, 2019 39 minutes ago, Georgie562 said: I wonder if some of the crew act as if they are sick so they won't have to work. Wow. These are dedicated people you are talking about. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted January 11, 2019 #9 Share Posted January 11, 2019 45 minutes ago, Georgie562 said: I wonder if some of the crew act as if they are sick so they won't have to work. Really rude thing to say. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kochleffel Posted January 11, 2019 #10 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Bleach works against norovirus, but Clorox wipes don't contain any. Regular Clorox wipes from the store do not purport to be effective against norovirus. Clorox also makes a hydrogen peroxide wipe that it says is effective against norovirus. It's expensive. Regular hand sanitizers like Purell are 62% alcohol and not effective against norovirus. Clorox makes a hand sanitizer that is 71% alcohol that it says is effective against norovirus. There are other specialty hand sanitizers that claim to effective against norovirus. Links to them may be found at http://www.stopthestomachflu.com/. Keep in mind, however, that it's nearly impossible to prove that products work against norovirus, because norovirus is very difficult to grow in a laboratory. Researchers usually test products against other viruses that are structurally similar to noro but easier to grow, but using different surrogate viruses tends to produce different results, so it's not clear to me that extrapolating from them to noro is justified. The best single thing is to wash hands thoroughly with soap and hot water immediately before eating and then touch nothing that has not been scrubbed or disinfected. This would mean washing again after serving yourself from the buffet, pulling out a chair, or handling a dining-room menu. Using a tissue or paper towel to handle anything that you must touch, or wearing disposable gloves (and removing them the way that medical workers do, without touching the outside) might be a useful precaution. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie562 Posted January 11, 2019 #11 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BirdTravels said: Really rude thing to say. How so? They work 7 days a week I don’t blame them if they “ call in sick “ on such opportunity. Edited January 11, 2019 by Georgie562 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100th Meridian Posted January 11, 2019 #12 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Georgie562 said: How so? They work 7 days a week I don’t blame them if they “ call in sick “ on such opportunity. Well implying that some crew would fake being sick so they don’t have to work. I’d hate having someone questioning my integrity if I was one of the crew who caught nirovirus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzalady1 Posted January 11, 2019 #13 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 hours ago, cathi007 said: Thanks I will add Lysol spray and lots of hand sanitizer to my list. We are traveling with a cancer patient, so we can't be too careful If the cancer patient has been through chemo his/her immune system is pretty shot. You can contact the Access Department and request a deep cleaning of the rooms, especially the rugs, drapes, shower curtain, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17cruisesnsl Posted January 11, 2019 #14 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I purchased the Clorox hydrogen peroxide wipes, which state they are effective against Norovirus (with a three minute dry time) in the large container of 100 for $12 and then found them (am I allowed to say on Amazon) in a kit of 50 individual packets and storage pouch for $30. The individual ones were very convenient but you could repack the larger ones in a well sealed baggie but be sure not to let them dry out. I also purchased the six pack of their hand sanitizer that states its effective against noro as most are not. In addition to the excellent information from kochleffel, don't focus exclusively on the ship and forget the airplane -the tray table, arm rests, and seat belt latch. How many people handled that in flight magazine? The table at the airport restaurant, etc. Disposable gloves are inexpensive and a great idea - yes I got some odd looks wearing them in the ship casino but having been on the Crown Princess during a norovirus outbreak in Jan 2012 - I'll gladly take the questioning glances. My DM had just turned 84 and unfortunately caught it on the second to last night of the Princess cruise, most likely from playing a slot machine-- while it is awful for anyone, it is especially dangerous in the elderly, someone with a compromised immune system, young children, etc so I try to be extra vigilant when traveling with her. Precautions and frequent use of the numerous hand sanitizers and washy washy on NCL are great but thoroughly washing your hands frequently with soap and water and not touching your face is very effective. Healthcare institutions where proper hand hygiene is a focus have documented lower infection rates. Enjoy your cruise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayjay76 Posted January 11, 2019 #15 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I buy a few things of the Lysol travel spray to go at target. 1st thing I do after putting bag down in room is go thru and spray main surfaces like the remote, door handles, railing on balcony, closet doors, light switches etc. Because the can is so tiny I put it in my clutch and spray where we sit in the buffet. And I try to never use my finger tips to hit the elevator buttons lol. Don't know if it helps but anything to help keep the germies away! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ziggyuk Posted January 11, 2019 #16 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, cathi007 said: Any idea what will? Thanks I researched and it said a bleach based cleaner....might be bringing that, lol These wipes claim to work. https://www.amazon.com/Clorox-Healthcare-Hydrogen-Peroxide-Disinfectant/dp/B00BFFGJ6S Those in UK, this from Boots: https://www.boots.com/ecohydra-alcohol-free-antibacterial-foam-hand-sanitiser-100ml-10196456 Edited January 11, 2019 by ziggyuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susandt Posted January 11, 2019 #17 Share Posted January 11, 2019 CDC recommends the top link you have from amazon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmexicoNita Posted January 11, 2019 #18 Share Posted January 11, 2019 10 hours ago, BirdTravels said: Really rude thing to say. thanks; my thought as well. Most of us realize how hard the crew works for what they get and how dedicated they are. We should all have their work ethics. AS for the ship and the noro. We were on the Jewel i think it was about 3 years ago when they had a breakout the sailing before. It was, apparently pretty bad but the cruise was not cancelled. When we got to the port of embarkation we were offered a complete refund if we did not want to sail. I have no idea how many accepted. The breakout did continue to some on our cruise but very few and the precautions that were used were unbelievable. I have mixed feelings about the wipes, but think I may bring lysol this time. I have never done anything like that before. I just make sure we are careful and wash our hands constantly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_sobe Posted January 11, 2019 #19 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Should this not be moved to the Royal boards? There are plenty of threads to comment about this over there. Maybe we can open threads about the Epic bathroom curtain on their boards ? 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17cruisesnsl Posted January 11, 2019 #20 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I'm interpreting this thread as concerned cruises looking for advice regarding Norovirus preventive measures, suggestions, and/or purchase options as a result of a norovirus breakout, which happened to be on RCCL, rather than RCCL specific. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4774Papa Posted January 11, 2019 #21 Share Posted January 11, 2019 We did a cruise out of Barcelona in 2011 that had an outbreak of Noro. I think it was the Jade. More people were affected than on the Royal ship. The cruise went on as planned. Of course, the crew disinfected things like the walls in our cabin. My wife had a reaction to all the disinfectant and was sick the last few days of the cruise. We had to ask the stewards to back off with the spray disinfectant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stampincrazyinTX Posted January 11, 2019 #22 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Another tip is to not touch the 🖐️ symbol (to open the sliding doors) with your fingertips and use the back of your hand 🤚instead because the back of your hand is less likely to end up in/around your mouth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegeeter Posted January 11, 2019 #23 Share Posted January 11, 2019 And while you're at it, always wipe the area down around where you sit on the airplane. Chances are high that patient 0 on the Oasis contracted the virus from the plane or airport. Any high traffic, high density area is where Noro spreads like wildfire. It's just easier to trace an outbreak on a cruise ship because thousands of people are in one place and reporting illness to the same doctor, whereas on a plane/in an airport the same cohort is only together a few hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosassa Posted January 11, 2019 #24 Share Posted January 11, 2019 14 hours ago, Georgie562 said: I wonder if some of the crew act as if they are sick so they won't have to work. Ignorance can be a problem. The effects of norovirus on the gastrointestinal tract are hard to fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie562 Posted January 11, 2019 #25 Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Homosassa said: Ignorance can be a problem. The effects of norovirus on the gastrointestinal tract are hard to fake. Keyword: FAKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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