Ugly people onboard the Silhouette

[LMKohler]

7 hours ago, Bootman4U said:

There are usually TWO sides to every story but I gather we will never hear " theirs."  But whatever makes you comfortable.

Yes, there are two sides to every story, but in this case I wouldn't want to hear the other side.  If she thought they were rude and wanted to change tables she should do so and without snarky remarks from you.

[DrKoob]

5 hours ago, Gonzo70 said:

 

It state's in the OP's profile where he is from... Monterrey... So he is from the Northeast... of Mexico.

 

We have sailed with Gerrardo (the OP) last fall on Summit and I can't ever remember meeting a more hospitable and friendly fellow cruiser. If there was a problem at the table, it wasn't with him. 

 

We used to LOVE standard cruise dining seating. We have met so many great friends that we still see and correspond with. Our first Celebrity cruise through the Canal on Infinity in 2004 we had a table for eight and there were only six of us (according to our waiter). There was a couple sitting at the table next to us and they were all by themselves. We invited them to join us. Big mistake. Or not. The (especially the wife) turned out to be total racists. Just about everything that came out of their mouths was an insult to a minority. We couldn't find a way to get rid of them but as it turned out, one of the other people at the table was a brilliant trial attorney (former president of the NY bar) who spent every dinner picking apart her racists theories. It became an amazing entertainment. One of my favorite cruising stories. We are still friends with that attorney and his amazing bride. Would love to sail at that table again.

 

Jim

 

[DrKoob]

3 hours ago, gerelmx said:

 

One example they say that the premium water like Evian and Pellegrino are trash 

 

Gerrardo, so sorry this happened to you and Lupita. Glad you got it taken care of. Can't wait to see you on Reflection next February.

 

Jim

[wwcruisers]

1 hour ago, gerelmx said:

 

No it’s example of what they were complaining, the ugly behavior it’s not to answer to good evening when you arrive to the dinner table

 

True, Gerardo -- that one gets a big fat 'F' on my scorecard of basic table manners! LOL -- I hope that your ex-tablemates never travel to Bermuda. Good social skills there are a must! As a tourist, you learn quickly that even the most basic exchange with Bermudans starts with: Good morning (afternoon/evening)... how are you today?

 

In this instance, I think that you and Lupita were wise to change tables -- and leave those 'ugly' folks to their bad manners and misery!

Edited March 29, 2019 by wwcruisers

[BellKat]

1 hour ago, sasset said:

If someone calls something that you may like 'trash' there is an inference that you are, at the least, stupid for buying it.

You are so right. If someone calls something you like trash, they are, in effect, dissing you along with whatever it is. I probably would have been asked to be moved also. And if they can’t even say good evening, when they sit down - nope! Those people should just get a table for 2 and not mix with the rest of the passengers.

[CCruiser1234]

3 hours ago, ipeeinthepool said:

 

Is this really the worst example of their "ugly" behavior?

No.  Your chosen handle is a far better candidate for that.

[CCruiser1234]

4 hours ago, Marelaine said:

 

I grew up in New England. When my mom said someone was 'ugly,' she was referring to their disposition, not their looks. 
I believe Gerardo is from Mexico. I had the pleasure of meeting him last week. He's a very nice gentleman. 

He is indeed, very kind.

[FlorenceItaly]

6 minutes ago, DrKoob said:

 

We have sailed with Gerrardo (the OP) last fall on Summit and I can't ever remember meeting a more hospitable and friendly fellow cruiser. If there was a problem at the table, it wasn't with him. 

 

Well said, Jim, so very true.  We were on the same cruise.

 

 

[DrKoob]

2 minutes ago, bob221b1 said:

No.  Your chosen handle is a far better candidate for that.

 

Well said Chief! 👍🏻

[cangelmd]

7 hours ago, sleepless said:

Not sure where the original OP is from, but if he is from the south, he/she did indeed mean ugly.  In the south, when someone is referred to as "ugly", it means their behavior is inappropriate.

Yes! As in “if you act ugly, you are going to get it when you get home”

 

THOSE people are why we are done with Chef’s Table dinners, you would think if you paid that much for a single meal, you wouldn’t get soused and behave badly

[A Sixth?]

1 hour ago, DrKoob said:

 

We have sailed with Gerrardo (the OP) last fall on Summit and I can't ever remember meeting a more hospitable and friendly fellow cruiser. If there was a problem at the table, it wasn't with him. 

 

We used to LOVE standard cruise dining seating. We have met so many great friends that we still see and correspond with. Our first Celebrity cruise through the Canal on Infinity in 2004 we had a table for eight and there were only six of us (according to our waiter). There was a couple sitting at the table next to us and they were all by themselves. We invited them to join us. Big mistake. Or not. The (especially the wife) turned out to be total racists. Just about everything that came out of their mouths was an insult to a minority. We couldn't find a way to get rid of them but as it turned out, one of the other people at the table was a brilliant trial attorney (former president of the NY bar) who spent every dinner picking apart her racists theories. It became an amazing entertainment. One of my favorite cruising stories. We are still friends with that attorney and his amazing bride. Would love to sail at that table again.

 

Jim

 

 

Similar story, different characters, prefer anytime

[bunnyette]

10 hours ago, yorky said:

We no longer dine with fixed time seating as we tend to use the speciality restaurants so don’t sit with the same table mates the whole cruise. However when we did we met some individuals that were less than wonderful and did move tables at times. The flip side was we also met some wonderful people and still send gifts to a couple from Virginia 20 years later, swings and roundabouts.

This is why we use my time dining...not stuck with bad table mates and meet a variety of people.

[Kingofcool1947]

8 hours ago, gerelmx said:

 

One example they say that the premium water like Evian and Pellegrino are trash 

So what?  Does it really matter?  Not greeting you in return, when you greet them, now, that is rude.   Unless they are hard of hearing.  Or racists.

King

Edited March 30, 2019 by Kingofcool1947

[DrKoob]

2 minutes ago, Kingofcool1947 said:

So what?  Does it really matter?

 

It matters a WHOLE LOT to Mrs. Evian and Mr. Pellegrino. 

[MizDemeanor]

5 minutes ago, Kingofcool1947 said:

So what?  Does it really matter?

 

No it doesn't matter in the master plan of life but its intutive to consider that the speaker is perhaps one avoid.

Edited March 30, 2019 by MizDemeanor

[BellKat]

2 minutes ago, MizDemeanor said:

 

No it doesn't matter in the master plan of life but its intutive to consider that the speaker is perhaps one avoid.

you are my new hero

[Germancruiser]

Thanks to our moderators to keep us in check. Last year on the QM2- of all ships- i had very similar experience. Doing a BTB Southampton - New York- Southampton. Second leg, leaving NY - waiting at my table for six,  for my new tablemates to arrive. One guy showed up- escorted as usual at the first eveing from one of the waiters.

I waited until he took his seat and as I usualy do- said " Good evening"! In my book the one that arrives at the table starts the greeting though..!

No reaction- well  just in case he was hard of hearing,  I repeated myself- he kept starring at his plate. No response. Absolutley weird- during the whole meal he uttered not a single word. Just sat there, made some rude comments to the waiter. Ate his meal, threw down is napking and left without a word.

I saw him sitting at a table by himself during the rest of the week. Next eveing 5 vey nice tablemates arrived at my table and we had the best of times...!

That was my one and only nasty dinnertable experience in all my 22 years of cruising. Other than that i met wonderful people- with some ot them I became friends ever since- with others I am still in contact via Mail.

[GUT2407]

Mrs Gut often complains about ugly table mate, but then we almost always have a table for two.

[begagirl]

6 hours ago, cangelmd said:

Yes! As in “if you act ugly, you are going to get it when you get home”

 

THOSE people are why we are done with Chef’s Table dinners, you would think if you paid that much for a single meal, you wouldn’t get soused and behave badly 

Re Chef's Table dinners, unfortunately money doesn't necessarily equate to good manners or knowing how to behave.

[GUT2407]

9 minutes ago, begagirl said:

Re Chef's Table dinners, unfortunately money doesn't necessarily equate to good manners or knowing how to behave.

And it doesn’t just apply to chefs table people with and without money can be .....

[Stateroom_Sailor]

We had to change tables once on the Carnival Pride.  The wife would squeeze her husband's knuckles if he spoke about a subject without permission.  "Do it again, and I'll squeeze harder!" 

[Presto2]

We once met the strangest couple on a land holiday in Lake Garda, Italy mid August (fixed table in the evening).

+They had met on a chat site, got engaged and this was their first meeting

+They hated hot weather or sunshine

+They didn't like boats or water

+They didn't like pizza, pasta, cheese or ice cream - just chips

+They hardly spoke all evening - it was like drawing teeth

+They didn't drink and hated wine (it was wine country)

+The next day we saw them when we were out walking --- she was sitting in the shade with her winter clothes on and a huge dark cardigan on complaining of the heat. It was midday and about 40 degrees.

 

Needless to say, we asked to move tables. Luckily we met friends that we had met the previous year and used that as an excuse to 'leave them on their own to give them more chance to be together' …………..

 

Ship wise, have only met one lady who was just plain potty (translates as insane, weird, nuts). This was on P&O Ventura 2 years ago. She was just so rude to the waiter it was unreal and made terrible comments in such a loud voice that he must have heard her. She was then incredibly rude to me because I ordered decaf (!) and just ranted about the food for ages and any medical conditions I may have ??!!!! The more she drank the worse it got and her husband was quite embarrassed and encouraged her to just have a main course and leave. We were sitting side by side and I actually turned my back on her to talk to the other couple (both in shock like us) sitting on the other side of us. (Would never even think of doing this to anyone normally)

Thankfully we were on freedom dining and that it was one of the last evenings and that we probably wouldn't see her again ! Everyone else was really nice to the waiter afterwards and I think it helped to cheer him up ! I would have been tempted to tip her meal over her head !

 

Edited March 30, 2019 by Presto2
Got the wrong ship !

[Silkroad]

• There is no excuse for refusing to greet one’s assigned table mates. I would ask to be moved to another table for that reason alone.
• ”Ugly” is sometimes used to refer to bad manners or rude behavior in parts of the southeastern US. I first heard it used in NC, when my SIL told her young son not to be “ugly” (referring to the way he was treating his little brother).
• Having seen the OP’s posts on various threads over time, and never having seen a frivolous, rude, or caustic post made by him, I do not believe he would have posted on this topic if the other couple hadn’t been very boorish indeed.

[mhafod]

20 hours ago, jkgourmet said:

 

Appropriate answers when someone asks questions that are none of their business:

 

1.  Why would you ask that kind of question?  (accompanied by that look on your face and shaking your head).

2.  I'll forgive you for asking that, if you'll forgive me for not answering.

 

Comments we have utilized with unremittingly negative people:

 

1.  Oh, what a shame you're not enjoying yourself.  We are!!!!!  (said with a note of glee)

2.  REALLY???? Gosh, we haven't had that experience.  Maybe we just have different perspective.  Or the crew likes us better?  (said with a hint of humor, but meant seriously).

3.  If absolutely necessary, tell them nicely that you're not having a bad time, and would prefer not to hear about if they are.

 

25+ cruises and we've only asked to change tables once.  In all other cases, the "ugly" passengers went away to find somebody else to listen to them.

 

One thing we always remember about cruising:  With very, very, very rare exceptions, we'll never, never, never see these people again.  If they're annoyed, so be it.  If they see us dressed in the same outfit several nights at dinner, who cares.  And if they annoy us, we can walk away. . .

 

I believe the last paragraph in your comment is the key to a really nice cruise. Let's call them jkGourmet 4 commandments to enjoying a cruise !

Edited March 30, 2019 by mhafod