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31 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said:

I’m wondering if depending on how severe this gets that if an option might just to have the ships sit idle. There will be a ton of excess capacity amongst the cruise lines  and it would most likely be less expensive to dock them for 6 months than it would be to sail half full with guests paying rock bottom fares 

 

Casino comps will increase at least for a while. 

 

Mothballing a ship isn't an easy task.  They are designed to be in continuous operation.    Dock fees add up quickly and there are minimum crew level just to keep them floating.  Crew need food, crew cabins cleaned, crew laundry done and so on.  They might be able to cut the hotel support crew but the delta over the base operating costs to support a "parked' ship compared to a ship capable of supporting guests I suspect makes it more favorable to keep them bookable even if they don't operate in the black.

 

It's about minimizing losses.  They might not generate profit but the goal will be to minimize losses until they can return to maximum profitability.  

 

A parked or idle ship generates zero revenue, it's just a money pit.  If they can generate some revenue that might be better on the balance sheet.

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1 minute ago, twangster said:

Casino comps will increase at least for a while. 

I'm wondering how many of those offers are not taken in the current environment?

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1 minute ago, Biker19 said:

I'm wondering how many of those offers are not taken in the current environment?

 

A lot of inside data would be fascinating to review.  

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On 2/25/2020 at 4:40 AM, Cruisertoday said:

The transpacific for Quantum departing from Tokyo on 4/25/2021 is now available to book.

 

We booked it to hedge our bets (we're currently booked on Ovation but the itinerary has been decimated). When I went back three hours later to change our cabin, it was showing CLS (closed) in every category. The 10 nighter before it, which we have also booked as a B2B, is still showing open for booking.

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8 hours ago, springaussie said:

Serenade has appeared in Sydney Ports 16, 23 and 30 November 2021.

Probably a Singapore Dry Dock after Alaska like Radiance. 

Work 2 weekly music charters out of Sydney then head to Melbourne?  

Agreed.  I do think the Celebrity bookings in Melbourne are for Serenade.  Hopefully she does some cruises to South Australia from Melbourne or a short season in Adelaide (ie not cruising to NZ for the entire season). 

 

I believe a second Q-class ship will replace Serenade in Sydney.   Quantum seems most likely,  but it could be the one that sailed into Sydney last night, depending on Covid-19 and Wonder.  I don't believe that Sydney would be reduced to only two home-ported ships. 

 

On a related topic...  Any further thoughts on the identity of the Unnamed Vessel?      

 

 

 

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I just received an email from royal cancelling my 11 Jan 2021 cruise. 

 

Please be advised that Quantum of the Seas Voyages sailing from 11 January to 19 January 2021 have been cancelled. The full details are included in the attached communication.

To ensure that we are able to make the necessary amendments in a timely fashion and to ensure that you will be eligible for compensation, we would greatly appreciate it if you could advise us of your decision by 10 March 2020.

We look forward to working with you to ensure that the impact due to this change is as minimal as possible and we hope that we will be able to welcome you onboard.

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Why did they cancel?  Are any other 2021 Quantum Asia cruises cancelled or changed?  Was looking at 3/2/21 Hong Kong to Singapore via Okinawa and the Philippines.

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14 minutes ago, MichellePerth said:

I just received an email from royal cancelling my 11 Jan 2021 cruise. 

 

Please be advised that Quantum of the Seas Voyages sailing from 11 January to 19 January 2021 have been cancelled. The full details are included in the attached communication.

To ensure that we are able to make the necessary amendments in a timely fashion and to ensure that you will be eligible for compensation, we would greatly appreciate it if you could advise us of your decision by 10 March 2020.

We look forward to working with you to ensure that the impact due to this change is as minimal as possible and we hope that we will be able to welcome you onboard.

.

Thanks Michelle

I wonder if my October Quantum cruise is running. 

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4 hours ago, geoff2802 said:

Agreed.  I do think the Celebrity bookings in Melbourne are for Serenade.  Hopefully she does some cruises to South Australia from Melbourne or a short season in Adelaide (ie not cruising to NZ for the entire season). 

 

I believe a second Q-class ship will replace Serenade in Sydney.   Quantum seems most likely,  but it could be the one that sailed into Sydney last night, depending on Covid-19 and Wonder.  I don't believe that Sydney would be reduced to only two home-ported ships. 

 

On a related topic...  Any further thoughts on the identity of the Unnamed Vessel?      

 

 

 

The Corona Virus will play a major part in the Oz deployment.

I think one of the ships is Adventure Of The Seas. Plus Quantum. 

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19 minutes ago, springaussie said:

Thanks Michelle

I wonder if my October Quantum cruise is running. 

They are giving 100 obc (200 suites) to shift booking.  They also have airline compo of up to 400 for flight changes, but they require proof FAXED to an email address. 🤔

 

This cruise was the last of a b4b.  I'll post if and when more come through. 

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50 minutes ago, MichellePerth said:

They are giving 100 obc (200 suites) to shift booking.  They also have airline compo of up to 400 for flight changes, but they require proof FAXED to an email address. 🤔

 

This cruise was the last of a b4b.  I'll post if and when more come through. 

Michelle so the other cruises in your b2bs are running? 

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Website still is selling 9 day sailing 1/2/21, 4 day on 1/11/21 which Michelle said is cancelled, and 3 day on 1/22/21.  No others listed for January 2021 on the Quantum.

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Just got this WhatsApp message from a cruise buddy. 

 

Just got email from RCI cancelling my Quantum 17th and 21st April out of Singapore next year. They will give me $100 OBC each but I need to book by the 10th of March.

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If they are cancelling Asia for the foreseeable future, up until (and perhaps longer) next Spring, there is no way the Wonder of the Seas will be going there

 

I would not be surprised if they just tell the builders not to rush, or even stop building 

 

This would in turn push Icon back

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2 hours ago, compman9 said:

I would not be surprised if they just tell the builders not to rush, or even stop building 

 

This would in turn push Icon back

I doubt the build of Wonder can be stopped/delayed and Icon is being built by a different company. Itineraries for Wonder may get pushed back.

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3 hours ago, compman9 said:

If they are cancelling Asia for the foreseeable future, up until (and perhaps longer) next Spring, there is no way the Wonder of the Seas will be going there

 

I would not be surprised if they just tell the builders not to rush, or even stop building 

 

This would in turn push Icon back

Do you really think it's that easy? They tons of orders, and where will they put Wonder in the meantime, because obviously they need that space for the next one. 

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10 hours ago, MichellePerth said:

To ensure that we are able to make the necessary amendments in a timely fashion and to ensure that you will be eligible for compensation, we would greatly appreciate it if you could advise us of your decision by 10 March 2020

 

This is the wording used every time that Royal has chartered the ship and they cancel a booked cruise for me.  Typical compensation has been $200 USD in OBC for the new booking I transfer my deposit to when my original booking was a balcony or JS cabin.   

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5 hours ago, compman9 said:

I would not be surprised if they just tell the builders not to rush, or even stop building 

 

That would never happen.  The ship is being built and has progressed quite nicely.  It's consuming dry dock space in a shipyard.  Her engines are installed and many of the blocks that make her foundation are installed.  

 

You can follow Wonder's build progress here:

 

https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2407590-wonder-of-the-seas-blocks-are-in-the-house/

 

At the moment the ship belongs to the shipyard being built under contact for Royal.  The shipyard isn't going to be left holding the bag if Royal doesn't need Wonder on the original schedule.  They need the dry dock space for the next ship they have contracted with someone else to build.

 

Royal will be required to accept the ship once it's complete.  If for any reason Asia was no longer an appropriate destination for Wonder they would simply move her to Florida initially and make a grand celebration out of OA #5.  

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5 hours ago, Biker19 said:

I doubt the build of Wonder can be stopped/delayed and Icon is being built by a different company. Itineraries for Wonder may get pushed back.

Might do some Med until China is sorted

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The deployment schedule has been added again and just shows  Short Caribbean week of 9th of March. 

 

All other deployment now just states 'coming soon' 

 

They also have the summary guide of ships that have been deployed now. 

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1 hour ago, MADflyer said:

The deployment schedule has been added again and just shows  Short Caribbean week of 9th of March. 

 

All other deployment now just states 'coming soon' 

 

They also have the summary guide of ships that have been deployed now. 

Interesting, I wonder how long they will push it back for

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It seems Quantum is leaving Singapore in March 2021 for Tokyo and there are currently 2 10 night sailings round trip from Tokyo. No cruises after that for now.

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1 hour ago, direptor said:

It seems Quantum is leaving Singapore in March 2021 for Tokyo and there are currently 2 10 night sailings round trip from Tokyo. No cruises after that for now.


The prices on those two cruises are outstanding.  Especially when compared to what Celebrity offers on Millennium.

 

after those two Japan cruises, Quantum is doing a TP to Seattle.  After that, nothing is published.

 

 

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