Rare ontheweb Posted February 25, 2020 #51 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, sanmarcosman said: So far it's down another 3.1% today. Market Summary > Carnival Corp NYSE: CCL Follow 36.56 USD −1.20 (3.18%) Still above what I bought it for, but I'm not sure how long that will be true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanmarcosman Posted February 25, 2020 #52 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, ontheweb said: Still above what I bought it for, but I'm not sure how long that will be true. You didn't say what you paid but it's now down over 5% today and sinking like the Titanic. Market Summary > Carnival Corp NYSE: CCL Follow 35.80 USD −1.96 (5.19%) Feb 25, 2:02 PM EST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n6uqqq Posted February 25, 2020 #53 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Just now, sanmarcosman said: You didn't say what you paid but it's now down over 5% today and sinking like the Titanic. Market Summary > Carnival Corp NYSE: CCL Follow 35.80 USD −1.96 (5.19%) Feb 25, 2:02 PM EST When the virus becomes trouble in the US you will likely see CCL in the 20's. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted February 25, 2020 #54 Share Posted February 25, 2020 6 hours ago, Aplmac said: Is this the end of the airline industry?! How much longer until they get grounded?? Neither will go totally bust...but there are major hiccups coming. The order book is at a all time record high. Add to that all the recent builds, the mortgage payment is a comin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury me at sea Posted February 25, 2020 #55 Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 hours ago, mz-s said: Currently at at least a 5 year low. Great time to buy. I think it is probable that it will continue its downward movement for awhile. Personally I wouldn't jump in yet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mz-s Posted February 25, 2020 #56 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Just now, bury me at sea said: I think it is probable that it will continue its downward movement for awhile. Personally I wouldn't jump in yet. I don't know, it hasn't been this low since the poop cruise. I guess we'll see. I won't be buying any, more power to those who choose to! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury me at sea Posted February 25, 2020 #57 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, mz-s said: I don't know, it hasn't been this low since the poop cruise. I guess we'll see. I won't be buying any, more power to those who choose to! $25. or even a little less wouldn't surprise me, depending on how long it takes us to get ahead of the corona spread, and of course the economy in general. This virus is having an economic impact on much more than just the cruise industry. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mz-s Posted February 25, 2020 #58 Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, bury me at sea said: $25. or even a little less wouldn't surprise me, depending on how long it takes us to get ahead of the corona spread, and of course the economy in general. This virus is having an economic impact on much more than just the cruise industry. True, this is way bigger than the poop cruise and Concordia disaster. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aplmac Posted February 25, 2020 #59 Share Posted February 25, 2020 21 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said: The order book is at a all time record high. Add to that all the recent builds, the mortgage payment is a coming! Luckily, aircraft and airlines (and cruise-lines/ships) outlive viruses! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Saint Greg Posted February 25, 2020 #60 Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 10:00 AM, Saint Greg said: All of the cruise lines are taking a hit. NCL was at $55 two weeks ago and they're 43 now. RCCL was at $126 about a month ago it's 99 now. CCL approaching 35, NCL 39, RCCL 89. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunNFunCruzer Posted February 25, 2020 #61 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) In my opinion, this is what happens when people buy stock for the small OBC. If you like and believe in the product, buy the stock and hold it. For people who bought or buy only for the OBC, they are learning an expensive lesson. The cruiselines use the OBC to prop up the stock price. I am not sure how they would survive cancelled cruises worldwide if this virus spreads, ports are closed and people start requesting their deposits back. There is only so much credit that can be extended. Curious to see what happens. Full disclosure: we own no stock or options -- have no short positions. Edited February 25, 2020 by SunNFunCruzer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13cheermom Posted February 25, 2020 #62 Share Posted February 25, 2020 The way I look at it, you only need 100 shares to get the OBC, so even at $50/share it's only a $5,000 investment. For anybody out there that cruises on a regular basis, you've spent $5,000 in cruising over the years. But agree if you don't have any, this is a good time to invest or wait just a lil bit more. 😉 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe817 Posted February 25, 2020 #63 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Well, it opened this morning at $38.00 and closed a few minutes ago at $35.84. I have to admit it's looking pretty attractive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS CRUZIN Posted February 25, 2020 #64 Share Posted February 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Joe817 said: Well, it opened this morning at $38.00 and closed a few minutes ago at $35.84. I have to admit it's looking pretty attractive. Just short of my offer today of 35.55 Darn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS CRUZIN Posted February 25, 2020 #65 Share Posted February 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, twodaywonder said: Just short of my offer today of 35.55 Darn. Just realized that offer of $35.55 was yesterday. I did get another 100 for $35.75 today. My wife has 100 at just over $41 so let's see if it continues to drop. Now is certainly the time to by just about buy any solid stock that is way down. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted February 25, 2020 #66 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 hours ago, sanmarcosman said: You didn't say what you paid but it's now down over 5% today and sinking like the Titanic. Market Summary > Carnival Corp NYSE: CCL Follow 35.80 USD −1.96 (5.19%) Feb 25, 2:02 PM EST IIRC, it was either 33 or 34. I'm guessing that by now it is below that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe817 Posted February 26, 2020 #67 Share Posted February 26, 2020 3 hours ago, ontheweb said: IIRC, it was either 33 or 34. I'm guessing that by now it is below that. Actually, no in after hours trading: AFTER HOURS Last Updated: Feb 25, 2020 7:59 p.m. ESTDelayed quote $36.23 0.39 1.09% After Hours Volume: 73.3K Leisure/Arts/Hospitality -6.79% CLOSECHGCHG % 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted February 26, 2020 #68 Share Posted February 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Joe817 said: Well, it opened this morning at $38.00 and closed a few minutes ago at $35.84. I have to admit it's looking pretty attractive. I'm sold everything today, the IRA's turn into cash savings with interest so no penalties. This virus is not going away anytime soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe817 Posted February 26, 2020 #69 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 minute ago, coevan said: I'm sold everything today, the IRA's turn into cash savings with interest so no penalties. This virus is not going away anytime soon. No it's not coevan. I wish you well in your investment decisions. I think it's going to get worse before it gets better. Only time will tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiegreen56 Posted February 26, 2020 #70 Share Posted February 26, 2020 People thought I was trolling when I said we sold off this summer and were waiting to buy again at 26. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe817 Posted February 26, 2020 #71 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, lottiegreen56 said: People thought I was trolling when I said we sold off this summer and were waiting to buy again at 26. When you said that, the virus had not even been discovered. What caused you to come to that conclusion? Or were there other factors? Just asking. Edited February 26, 2020 by Joe817 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiegreen56 Posted February 26, 2020 #72 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Joe817 said: When you said that, the virus had not even been discovered. What caused you to come to that conclusion? Or were there other factors? Just asking. We sold in June I believe. My analysis was completely based on the market being overvalued and CCL's price being overvalued relative to the financial fundamentals. The virus is just the shock to the system that triggered the adjustment. I think if the supply chain is majorly disrupted and the world economy dries up for a few quarters, vacation/entertainment/discretionary businesses are going to get rocked. The only thing that was going to stop the bubble from bursting was an inflationary cycle but it appears that our central bankers don't want that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe817 Posted February 26, 2020 #73 Share Posted February 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, lottiegreen56 said: We sold in June I believe. My analysis was completely based on the market being overvalued and CCL's price being overvalued relative to the financial fundamentals. The virus is just the shock to the system that triggered the adjustment. I think if the supply chain is majorly disrupted and the world economy dries up for a few quarters, vacation/entertainment/discretionary businesses are going to get rocked. The only thing that was going to stop the bubble from bursting was an inflationary cycle but it appears that our central bankers don't want that. Thank you for your speedy reply. I'm not sure I agree with you, however. The market fundamentals show strength with a p/e of 8.9. That's not bad. With EPS of $4.33 and a yield of 5.58%, for the average investor, those numbers don't look bad to me. Do you agree, or is there is something I'm missing, which is entirely possible? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentureMan_2000 Posted February 26, 2020 #74 Share Posted February 26, 2020 One word... Opportunity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe817 Posted February 26, 2020 #75 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, VentureMan_2000 said: One word... Opportunity. Ok. I concede. In June the price was $52.00. So basically short term trading? If that's the answer. You are correct. I'm an investor for the long haul. YMMV Edited February 26, 2020 by Joe817 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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