Any news from the Amsterdam?

[BSR]

I thought I read it was 8 containers. 

[KirkNC]

2 hours ago, Essiesmom said:

I think it was only two containers, from what I read earlier on this thread...  EM

Actually I believe there are eight containers with our luggage.

[boco]

Just passed our house in Maassluis  on her way to Rotterdam

[Copper10-8]

On 8/13/2020 at 10:25 AM, Sir PMP said:

No nothing yet, but retirement or Zaandam, only choices left.

 

Yup, with those four ships departing as we speak, there are eight (8) captains and 4-6 hotel directors looking for new/other ships (and there are many, many more crew from those four vessels in the same situation). There is only one new ship - Rotterdam VII - joining in 2021

[Copper10-8]

27 minutes ago, boco said:

Just passed our house in Maassluis  on her way to Rotterdam

 

Bedankt voor de fotos! / Thanks for the pics!

[rotjeknor]

These pictures were just posted on Twitter by Cruiseport Rotterdam. I will post some from het departure tomorrow.

[MAVIP]

13 hours ago, braemar12 said:

It appears that ownership of ms Amsterdam and ms Rotterdam has been transferred over to Fred. Olsen.

 

Not yet. Will be done in Scotland after the docks in The Netherlands and after meeting ms Nieuw Statendam and Zaandam at the North Sea.  Howeven tracking services already use the new owners name. 

[TiogaCruiser]

6 hours ago, Copper10-8 said:

 

Yup, with those four ships departing as we speak, there are eight (8) captains and 4-6 hotel directors looking for new/other ships (and there are many, many more crew from those four vessels in the same situation). There is only one new ship - Rotterdam VII - joining in 2021

So Copper, how does that work? 
 

When ship employees are “between “ contracts, are they “unemployed” ? At what stage in the work cycle does the next contract get signed? (Is the next contract usually signed before the current one ends, or does the employee walk off the gangway not knowing when to expect to return?)

 

Do those who are not returning likely know?

[Himself]

4 hours ago, rotjeknor said:

These pictures were just posted on Twitter by Cruiseport Rotterdam. I will post some from het departure tomorrow.

Thank you for posting pictures of this wonderful ship.  Sorry to see the ship leaving the HAL Fleet!

[Himself]

9 hours ago, boco said:

Just passed our house in Maassluis  on her way to Rotterdam

Thank you!   She is a beautiful ship!

[Sir PMP]

13 hours ago, Essiesmom said:

I think it was only two containers, from what I read earlier on this thread...  EM

It looks like the 2 containers are missing...😉

[cruzingnut]

@boco and @rotjeknor, thank you so much for the vid's and pic's!  I got some video from the webcams along the river but it was nice to hear her toot!  As a long time cruiser on the Amsterdam (900+ days sailing from 2001 til the 2020 WC), I am a true fan of hers and will miss her more than words can say.  I truly appreciate any and all pictures I can get of her.  Thank you. ❤️

 

Linda R.

[Copper10-8]

3 hours ago, TiogaCruiser said:

So Copper, how does that work? 
 

When ship employees are “between “ contracts, are they “unemployed” ? At what stage in the work cycle does the next contract get signed? (Is the next contract usually signed before the current one ends, or does the employee walk off the gangway not knowing when to expect to return?)

 

Do those who are not returning likely know?

 

For HAL, not sure about other lines, a new contract is presented to the employee in a meeting with the HRM (every ship has a Human Resources Manager) inside her/his office during the first couple of days onboard after arrival by that employee. For officers, not sure about ranks below, a copy of that contract is sent via email when the employee is still at home on leave. The assignment to a ship (either the same one that you last worked on, or a different one) is usually, but not always, known ahead of time, (for captains, staff captains, chief engineers, E/O's, etc., they usually stay on the same ship for a number of years - HD's usually work two ships). The Indonesians and Filipinos (I believe also the Indians) are represented in their home countries by managers who will notify them of their next assignment

 

While at home on vacation, the employee is not paid so not really employed per se, that happens only under contract. Every employee group (deck and engine, hotel, entertainment, concessionaires like the Steiners, shoppies, photo, casino, art, etc) has a planning manager who sits in her/his office in Seattle or elsewhere (the Steiners in London) and "plugs in holes"  to man the ships.

 

There has never been a time like this where four ships leave the company simultaneously and consequently, there are many, many employees who don't know what their next ship assignment is, again starting with the eight captains (one working/one relief) who were assigned to those ships. I would think it would be handled by seniority and could very well mean demotions (in the case of recently promoted captains, back to staff captain) and that of course, will have a trickling down effect with, currently, only Rotterdam VII joining the company next year. There could also be more retirements similar to Captain Jonathan Mercer (although his was known before this $#@&! mess started)     

[bcummin]

We will also miss the beautiful ms Amsterdam along with her excellent crew, staff, and officers.  Many good memories.

Barbara

[rotjeknor]

15 hours ago, cruzingnut said:

@boco and @rotjeknor, thank you so much for the vid's and pic's!  I got some video from the webcams along the river but it was nice to hear her toot!  As a long time cruiser on the Amsterdam (900+ days sailing from 2001 til the 2020 WC), I am a true fan of hers and will miss her more than words can say.  I truly appreciate any and all pictures I can get of her.  Thank you. ❤️

 

Linda R.

You’re welcome ! I’m on the dock right now ( Sunday 10 am) . 

[rotjeknor]

As you can tell , saltwater is not good for paint! 

[Robert Smith]

Hi everyone,

 

I am just a lurker of this board but as a fan of HAL I want to share a picture with you from MS Amsterdam leaving the cruise terminal in Rotterdam (and passing SS Rotterdam) this morning. Photo taken from my house just near the river Maas.

Hope some of you will enjoy.

[rotjeknor]

Departure at almost 11am this morning 

[Sir PMP]

Thanks for the video, the end of a beautiful era..

[cruzingnut]

5 hours ago, Robert Smith said:

Hi everyone,

 

I am just a lurker of this board but as a fan of HAL I want to share a picture with you from MS Amsterdam leaving the cruise terminal in Rotterdam (and passing SS Rotterdam) this morning. Photo taken from my house just near the river Maas.

Hope some of you will enjoy.

 

 

@Robert Smith  This is a great picture, especially with the old Rotterdam in the back round; thanks so much for taking and posting it!

[geocruiser]

On 8/6/2020 at 2:12 PM, Gloria sunrise said:

Do you really think the virus could live on the outside of bags that long.  We can wipe them down before opening.  Assume they will not have been opened.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/how-long-will-coronavirus-survive-on-surfaces/

Coronavirus survival by surface

“The virus typically doesn’t like to live on surfaces that have a lot of holes or microscopic little grooves, nooks or crannies,” explains Dr. Esper. “It likes surfaces that are very smooth, like door knobs.”

Early research has demonstrated that the virus’s survival depends on the type of surface it lands on. The live virus can survive anywhere between a couple of hours to a couple of days.

Here’s how long the virus typically lasts on common surfaces, but it can change depending on sanitation efforts, sunlight and temperature:

• Glass – 5 days.
• Wood – 4 days.
• Plastic & stainless-steel – 3 days.
• Cardboard – 24 hours.
• Copper surfaces – 4 hours.

It’s important to note that the amount of live virus decreases over time on surfaces. So the risk of infection from touching something that had the virus on it for a few days (or even a few hours) would lessen the risk.

“As you can imagine cardboard has little microscopic holes in it, so the virus doesn’t like it very much,” says Dr. Esper. “And it doesn’t last too long on fabric either, typically less than a day.”

[cruzingnut]

@rotjeknor Thanks for all the pictures!  I wasn't able to watch the videos though; I could "play" them but couldn't see anything.  I'm wondering if it was all too much in a single post?  In the post, there are a lot of blank white spaces.

 

Linda R.

[cat shepard]

10 minutes ago, cruzingnut said:

@rotjeknor Thanks for all the pictures!  I wasn't able to watch the videos though; I could "play" them but couldn't see anything.  I'm wondering if it was all too much in a single post?  In the post, there are a lot of blank white spaces.

 

Linda R.

Linda, do you have another device you can try to view them on? I could watch the Videos on my iPad. 

[Himself]

4 hours ago, rotjeknor said:

Departure at almost 11am this morning 

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It is sad to see this wonderful ship leaving the HAL FAMILY. She was  the Class of the line.

[bluesea777]

Inquiring minds ... when and where was the last time Amsterdam actually docked prior to her arrival (and docking) in Rotterdam? Being at sea and not being able to dock (for crew to maintain the hull) sure did all the wear to the hull. Now dull with rust. And the anchor area sure looks so well used.

 

Also the Rotterdam?

 

Although I'm a die-hard NCL cruiser I have been following most of the HAL ships with great interest over the last several months when the dreaded Covid shutdowns began.

 

Love the pictures and videos. Yes, they brought little tears ... end of era for those 2 ships.