Chances of sailing June 1

[bearette]

5 minutes ago, beerman2 said:

Carnival has cancelled sailings until June 27th. Do you think they would cancel that far out without knowing something?

 

They wouldn't sit back and watch the others sail.   So no June 1st isn't going to sail!

 

 

 

I was going to say the same thing.  This announcement will set a president that very end of June will be the first sailings.

 

They will cancel as it suites them so probably a roll out method of the rest of May and some June.  Then a little later all the June sailings to limit the run on the call centers is my guess.

Edited April 14, 2020 by bearette

[Midwestgal]

1 hour ago, ssbeard1 said:

We are set to sail independence of the seas on June 1 for 4 nights.   We have 3 cabins.    With the extension of the CDC’s quarantine of cruise ships for “at least 100 days” do we stand a chance of sailing?   When do you think RCL will cancel ?

Well the answer is in your question ...100 days, so no you wouldn’t be sailing. I’m not being snap by any means but I’m not getting why you would need to ask. 
Royal will send something out at some point but given that cruises were shut down at this point I’d imagine they would just assume people would know that their cruises are cancelled. 
Now  the question is how will Royal compensate these cruises as they are not liable to do so since they were shut down by a government mandate . Take a look at the cruise contract 

[mets123]

Ask a dumb question and you're going to get dumb answers.

[rockmom]

Princess pulled the plug today on anything through June 30th  https://www.princess.com/news/notices_and_advisories/notices/global-ship-operations-pause-extended.html

[Jimbo]

6 minutes ago, rockmom said:

Princess pulled the plug today on anything through June 30th  https://www.princess.com/news/notices_and_advisories/notices/global-ship-operations-pause-extended.html

Guess this pretty much means Alaska is closed for the Summer of 2020, Beyond me why they still saying the roundtrips from Seattle will still happen?

 

In addition, Princess Cruises can confirm modifications to the Alaska season, which includes the cancellation of all Princess Alaska Gulf cruise and cruisetours. The five wilderness lodges, trains and buses operated by Princess in Alaska will not open this summer. We will continue round-trip sailings from Seattle to Alaska on Emerald Princess and Ruby Princess.

"This global outbreak continues to challenge our world in unimaginable ways. We recognize how disappointing this is to our long-term business partners and thousands of employees, many of whom have been with us in Alaska for decades," said Jan Swartz, president of Princess Cruises. "We hope everyone impacted by these cancellations – especially our guests, travel advisor partners, teammates, and the communities we visit – understand our decision to do our part to protect the safety, health and well-being of our guests and team. We look forward to the brighter days and smooth seas ahead for all of us."

[rockmom]

8 minutes ago, Jimbo said:

Guess this pretty much means Alaska is closed for the Summer of 2020, Beyond me why they still saying the roundtrips from Seattle will still happen?

 

In addition, Princess Cruises can confirm modifications to the Alaska season, which includes the cancellation of all Princess Alaska Gulf cruise and cruisetours. The five wilderness lodges, trains and buses operated by Princess in Alaska will not open this summer. We will continue round-trip sailings from Seattle to Alaska on Emerald Princess and Ruby Princess.

"This global outbreak continues to challenge our world in unimaginable ways. We recognize how disappointing this is to our long-term business partners and thousands of employees, many of whom have been with us in Alaska for decades," said Jan Swartz, president of Princess Cruises. "We hope everyone impacted by these cancellations – especially our guests, travel advisor partners, teammates, and the communities we visit – understand our decision to do our part to protect the safety, health and well-being of our guests and team. We look forward to the brighter days and smooth seas ahead for all of us."

I saw that and was a bit surprised by it as well.  I guess they are holding out hope that the season isn't a total loss?  Seattle/Washington state have done a pretty good job of slowing down the virus at this point, but I'm not sure they'll be opening their port to cruising any time soon.

[rbell]

2 hours ago, ssbeard1 said:

We are set to sail independence of the seas on June 1 for 4 nights.   We have 3 cabins.    With the extension of the CDC’s quarantine of cruise ships for “at least 100 days” do we stand a chance of sailing?   When do you think RCL will cancel ?

Um....A big fat 0

[ThirstyCruiser]

1 hour ago, mets123 said:

Ask a dumb question and you're going to get dumb answers.

 

[Iamcruzin]

You have a better chance of being struck by lightning than sailing on June 1st. The odds of getting Covid 19 between now and then are even greater.

 

[BND]

Nope. We had two scheduled next month. May 15 we already cancelled and May 22 I'm sure won't happen.  We're not even taking bets on our Nov cruises.  Hoping our ones next year, May, July and Nov happen.  

[jp2746]

I want so bad to cancel airline tickets but I am waiting for a confirmation on our June 7th cruise out of New York.  :0 I know it won't go, but I have to hear it or see it in writing before I cancel the airline tickets.  UUUGGGGG   Just do this already so I can cancel everything and get that off my mind!

[Jimbo]

1 minute ago, jp2746 said:

I want so bad to cancel airline tickets but I am waiting for a confirmation on our June 7th cruise out of New York.  :0 I know it won't go, but I have to hear it or see it in writing before I cancel the airline tickets.  UUUGGGGG   Just do this already so I can cancel everything and get that off my mind!

A Hot Spot........Oh No!

[Iamcruzin]

4 minutes ago, jp2746 said:

I want so bad to cancel airline tickets but I am waiting for a confirmation on our June 7th cruise out of New York.  :0 I know it won't go, but I have to hear it or see it in writing before I cancel the airline tickets.  UUUGGGGG   Just do this already so I can cancel everything and get that off my mind!

I have airline tickets to Florida June 5th. We were flying there for a College graduation which was canceled. I'm waiting until June 4th hoping that the flight gets canceled or time change so I can get a refund instead of a credit. Then I have to worry about the return flight on June 14th.

[taglovestocruise]

Here in Ca. Newsom just announced Ca. may start lifting stay at home guidelines may 1st.  They want Ca. to be fully open for June - August.   Summer vacation months bring billions to Ca.  Now money talks. Cruise lines bring billions into the us port cities,            they keep many port cities afloat.  If you open your port but I keep my port closed you get all the money,  Virus, what Virus. 

[Jimbo]

Funny, how Royal Caribbean is doing nothing but now Holland America just sent out this.........They are Canceling the Alaska Season  2020 also 

 

Dear Valued Travel Partner, Due to continued travel restrictions, port closures, and surrounding global health concerns, along with the recent recommendation by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to extend their previously announced “No Sail Order,” Holland America Line has made the difficult decision to delay the start of the Alaska, Europe, and Canada & New England cruise seasons through June 30, 2020. In addition, we have also made the decision to cancel all remaining 2020 Alaska cruises on the following ships: Maasdam, Volendam, Oosterdam, Noordam, and Westerdam. In addition, all 2020 Land+Sea Journeys are also cancelled. In light of this extension, we are offering two forms of compensation from which your clients can choose: Option #1 — We would love to welcome your clients on board a future Holland America Line cruise. 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Edited April 14, 2020 by Jimbo

[Iamcruzin]

1 minute ago, Jimbo said:

Funny, how Royal Caribbean is doing nothing but now Holland America just sent out this.........They are Canceling the Alaska season for 2020 also

 

Majority of HAL passengers would need a Dr's note so they are between a rock and a hard place anyway.

[rockmom]

2 minutes ago, Jimbo said:

Funny, how Royal Caribbean is doing nothing but now Holland America just sent out this.........They are Canceling the Alaska season for 2020 also

 

So now the 3 major brands under the Carnival corp umbrella have made the move to push to end of June.  Nothing yet from NCL or Royal.  Ugh!  

[jp2746]

I feel like the ports of the Caribbean will reopen soon.  Their economy is so incredibly dependent on the cruise lines and their governments are not strong enough to support all their citizens for months.  So, I am guessing that cruises will resume by at least August.  But, that is a guess like everyone else.  It means nothing.  lol

[Iamcruzin]

Just now, rockmom said:

So now the 3 major brands under the Carnival corp umbrella have made the move to push to end of June.  Nothing yet from NCL or Royal.  Ugh!  

They have been proactive since the Princess issues.

[Iamcruzin]

1 minute ago, jp2746 said:

I feel like the ports of the Caribbean will reopen soon.  Their economy is so incredibly dependent on the cruise lines and their governments are not strong enough to support all their citizens for months.  So, I am guessing that cruises will resume by at least August.  But, that is a guess like everyone else.  It means nothing.  lol

Just in time for prime Hurricane season.  Hurricane damage with a side order of Covid. That should help their ecomomy.

[Jimbo]

3 minutes ago, Iamcruzin said:

Majority of HAL passengers would need a Dr's note so they are between a rock and a hard place anyway.

We have been on 1 Hal cruise, it was surprising really good. The food was so much better then Royal, really didn't notice it as to having a really older crowd. We were abouty 40 when we sailed.

[Iamcruzin]

Just now, Jimbo said:

We have been on 1 Hal cruise, it was surprising really good. The food was so much better then Royal, really didn't notice it as to having a really older crowd. We were abouty 40 when we sailed.

The cruise line has good reviews. Maybe it depends on the itinerary. I sailed on Princess when I was in my 30's and 40's now pushing 60 I feel that's starting to be to old for me which is why I have been trying Royal.

[Ocean Boy]

3 hours ago, molly361 said:

Slim to None

...and slim is not one of the options.

[zekekelso]

12 minutes ago, jp2746 said:

I feel like the ports of the Caribbean will reopen soon.  Their economy is so incredibly dependent on the cruise lines and their governments are not strong enough to support all their citizens for months.  So, I am guessing that cruises will resume by at least August.  But, that is a guess like everyone else.  It means nothing.  lol

 

Cruise passengers are a double edge sword. The bring some money into an economy, but not nearly as much as overnight tourists, whom they can chase away. I think a lot of ports (though fewer in the Caribbean than elsewhere) are going to take this as an opportunity to rethink their tourism plans. 

 

I do think, in general, some of the Caribbean ports will open before the US ports do. Then what? Will we see Caribbean cruises that exclude US ports? Would Royal do a 4-day Cozumel -> Labadee -> Cozumel sailing? 

[Ocean Boy]

23 minutes ago, jp2746 said:

I feel like the ports of the Caribbean will reopen soon.  Their economy is so incredibly dependent on the cruise lines and their governments are not strong enough to support all their citizens for months.  So, I am guessing that cruises will resume by at least August.  But, that is a guess like everyone else.  It means nothing.  lol

 Their health care systems would collapse faster than some of their buildings during a hurricane if a Diamond Princess ever pulled into port.