What do you miss the most by not cruising?

[miched]

2 hours ago, Pinboy said:

I stopped playing black jack on ships long ago.

1- The minimum bet on our last cruise was $15 .

2- Too many people playing black jack on ships don't know how to play the odds. Dealer shows a 6, player has 14 and takes another card-- up comes a King. Happens all the time.

3- The Dealers usually look bored and are unfriendly.

 

I dealt cards in a casino.   There is no right or wrong way to play a hand.   To say that others don’t play according to the “rules” is BS.   It is their hand, they play ot the way that they want and to say that hitting on 14 when the dealer has 16 is wrong is BS.   
 

I seen it work both ways.  

 

Here is something to think about, playerS will say that the player will need to protect the table by not taking a hit.   He loses but may have won.   The other players win.   Does anyone ever compensate him for his loss because he lost so that you could win?

 

happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

[Germancruiser]

1. Sea days

2. Days out at sea

3. Days without arriving in a port of call

Thats the points i really miss!

What really bothers me is that one can not book a cruise these days- yes of course- for 2021- BUT I still hope for the fall... so... I wait and wait...and see...!

 

 

[ldubs]

16 hours ago, Pinboy said:

I miss the overall cruise experience on a " floating resort " .

The great food, the excellent service, the warm weather ( haven't seen that mentioned yet )  , meeting people from all over the world , and , that guy selling " real " Rolex watches for $125 in Cartegena . 

 

 

Pinboy, I think I could have got you a real genuine imitation in Ensenada for $15.  😄😄

[Pinboy]

9 hours ago, miched said:

I dealt cards in a casino.   There is no right or wrong way to play a hand.   To say that others don’t play according to the “rules” is BS.   It is their hand, they play ot the way that they want and to say that hitting on 14 when the dealer has 16 is wrong is BS.   
 

I seen it work both ways.  

 

Here is something to think about, playerS will say that the player will need to protect the table by not taking a hit.   He loses but may have won.   The other players win.   Does anyone ever compensate him for his loss because he lost so that you could win?

 

happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

Excellent points.

I'm just an amateur who " hears " what so called " Big Hitters " blab about . 

About compensating the player that loses when he " protects " the table -- very true.

For a little fun-----Why do some players tip the dealer on winning hands . When the player loses, does the dealer give him any money back ?

[miched]

2 minutes ago, Pinboy said:

Excellent points.

I'm just an amateur who " hears " what so called " Big Hitters " blab about . 

About compensating the player that loses when he " protects " the table -- very true.

For a little fun-----Why do some players tip the dealer on winning hands . When the player loses, does the dealer give him any money back ?

When people gamble they are superstitious.   They feel giving a toke after winning will bring them more good fortune.  Tipping a dealer is for service given and they feel that they were given good service by winning.  When I was dealing we got minimum wage plus the daily total toke pooled and divided by all hours worked and shared by all the dealers.   The toke rate was posted daily so you could determine what your pay was for that day.  The most I ever received at the time was $16.10/hour.   The least was $3.60.   
 

Contrary to belief dealers aren’t card mechanics but we know all of the tricks of cheating.  We were taught all the tricks so we could watch for cheaters and also to know that we can’t cheat without getting caught and prosecuted.
 

happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅 

[Pinboy]

5 minutes ago, miched said:

When people gamble they are superstitious.   They feel giving a toke after winning will bring them more good fortune.  Tipping a dealer is for service given and they feel that they were given good service by winning.  When I was dealing we got minimum wage plus the daily total toke pooled and divided by all hours worked and shared by all the dealers.   The toke rate was posted daily so you could determine what your pay was for that day.  The most I ever received at the time was $16.10/hour.   The least was $3.60.   
 

Contrary to belief dealers aren’t card mechanics but we know all of the tricks of cheating.  We were taught all the tricks so we could watch for cheaters and also to know that we can’t cheat without getting caught and prosecuted.
 

happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅 

 " Land of Ice, Snow, and Potholes "

Am I allowed to ask where in Canada are you ? 

It would be very interesting to hear your stories .

Perhaps you can set up a thread on CC -- much more interesting than the pages, and pages, on " Scumbags at Buffets " -- We've all seen them and several people on CC are just stirring " xxxx ".

[Pinboy]

8 hours ago, ldubs said:

 

Pinboy, I think I could have got you a real genuine imitation in Ensenada for $15.  😄😄

Wearing a fake Rolex is like a 78 yr old guy thinking his 32 yr old girlfriend " really " loves him -- and not for his money.

[bouhunter]

10 hours ago, miched said:

I dealt cards in a casino.   There is no right or wrong way to play a hand.   To say that others don’t play according to the “rules” is BS.   It is their hand, they play ot the way that they want and to say that hitting on 14 when the dealer has 16 is wrong is BS.   
 

I seen it work both ways.  

 

Here is something to think about, playerS will say that the player will need to protect the table by not taking a hit.   He loses but may have won.   The other players win.   Does anyone ever compensate him for his loss because he lost so that you could win?

 

happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

Well put.  There are too many blackjack players who think they know everything.  And don't.

Edited June 4, 2020 by bouhunter

[Fouremco]

2 hours ago, Pinboy said:

 " Land of Ice, Snow, and Potholes "

Am I allowed to ask where in Canada are you ? 

 

You can always ask, but looking at the flag in his signature block, I'll go out on a limb and guess he's not in Canada. 

 

2 hours ago, miched said:

happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅 

 

[ldubs]

2 hours ago, Pinboy said:

Wearing a fake Rolex is like a 78 yr old guy thinking his 32 yr old girlfriend " really " loves him -- and not for his money.

 

Haha, I think that also applies when wearing a real Rolex.  

[miched]

8 hours ago, Pinboy said:

 " Land of Ice, Snow, and Potholes "

Am I allowed to ask where in Canada are you ? 

It would be very interesting to hear your stories .

Perhaps you can set up a thread on CC -- much more interesting than the pages, and pages, on " Scumbags at Buffets " -- We've all seen them and several people on CC are just stirring " xxxx ".

Close to Canada, we live in the big D, Detroit area.  Dealt cards in a Detroit Casino.  Wasn’t  a bad job it was more of a hobby but had to quit because the smoke was killing me.  They passed a law that prohibited smoking in public places, bars , restaurants and etc but allowed it in casinos because people need to smoke while playing.  I would wake up in the morning and my lungs would be burning.  The smoke was terrible.  I was retired and didn’t need the money.  
 

I learned a lot about how the casinos operated.  The way that a pit operates is  really structured.  No one gets away with anything.  They know how much every player plays and leaves the table with if any.   How much time spent there playing, average bet and etc.   The tray is set up so they can look at it and tell exactly how much is in it with just a glance,  that is why the dealer is always rearranging the checks in it.    They always want a player to color up when leaving so they don’t take away all the small values and lose time by having to bring in more.   It also helps them know how much they won or lost.  Every transaction between a player and dealer is recorded.  Doesn’t matter if you use a casino club card or not.  
 

It was a big joke with all of us as a player would see the supervisor or pit boss coming around and they would increase their bet to try and make them think they were betting higher than what they were to earn more credit.   The suits know. 

 

I counted 16 cameras around the table I was dealing at when coming back from a break.  

 

Happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

Edited June 4, 2020 by miched

[Pinboy]

59 minutes ago, miched said:

Close to Canada, we live in the big D, Detroit area.  Dealt cards in a Detroit Casino.  Wasn’t  a bad job it was more of a hobby but had to quit because the smoke was killing me.  They passed a law that prohibited smoking in public places, bars , restaurants and etc but allowed it in casinos because people need to smoke while playing.  I would wake up in the morning and my lungs would be burning.  The smoke was terrible.  I was retired and didn’t need the money.  
 

I learned a lot about how the casinos operated.  The way that a pit operates is  really structured.  No one gets away with anything.  They know how much every player plays and leaves the table with if any.   How much time spent there playing, average bet and etc.   The tray is set up so they can look at it and tell exactly how much is in it with just a glance,  that is why the dealer is always rearranging the checks in it.    They always want a player to color up when leaving so they don’t take away all the small values and lose time by having to bring in more.   It also helps them know how much they won or lost.  Every transaction between a player and dealer is recorded.  Doesn’t matter if you use a casino club card or not.  
 

It was a big joke with all of us as a player would see the supervisor or pit boss coming around and they would increase their bet to try and make them think they were betting higher than what they were to earn more credit.   The suits know. 

 

I counted 16 cameras around the table I was dealing at when coming back from a break.  

 

Happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

Fantastic-- very interesting and fascinating to listen about a casino from someone on the inside. 

The dealers must laugh like hell on coffee breaks talking about the players.

For me-- I would never sit in the Anchor seat for " fear '' of Mr Big with his Stetson hat , black and green chips , and a " Honey " 45 yrs younger than him cheering like a hyena every time he wins a hand.  

LOL-- I'm the guy that quietly takes a seat, pulls out 3 free $ 5 coupons , a $ 100--- and tries to turn it into $ 500.

10 minutes later I'm walking away with my hands in my pocket mumbling " How do the cards know it's me sitting there ??? "  

 

 

[miched]

There was a big shooter sitting at anchor  and not doing too good, his wife/ girlfriend came up to him and asked for $100.   He wasn’t too happy as he replied that  he had already gave her a $100 and now asking for more.   She said to him I only lost $100, what about the $1000 you lost?  His reply????    Yeah but I know how to gamble.  
 

Apparently he knew how to lose it better.   
 

Happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

[Pinboy]

12 hours ago, miched said:

There was a big shooter sitting at anchor  and not doing too good, his wife/ girlfriend came up to him and asked for $100.   He wasn’t too happy as he replied that  he had already gave her a $100 and now asking for more.   She said to him I only lost $100, what about the $1000 you lost?  His reply????    Yeah but I know how to gamble.  
 

Apparently he knew how to lose it better.   
 

Happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

I guess the expression " Casinos weren't built on winners " is true. 

LOL-- How come on the second day of cruise the " word " spreads around that " someone hit the jackpot last night on the slot machines " ? 

[miched]

3 hours ago, Pinboy said:

I guess the expression " Casinos weren't built on winners " is true. 

LOL-- How come on the second day of cruise the " word " spreads around that " someone hit the jackpot last night on the slot machines " ? 

I was normally a relief dealer that would break other tables and games.  If I was on the same 21 table all day with a $5 minimum and the table was always full my drop would be  $17,000 or more shift.  
 

Players lose because believe it or not they don’t really want to win.  If they wanted to win they would leave after winning a few hands and are a head.  They don’t because they didn’t go to a casino to play a few hands, win $20 and then leave.   They are there for entertainment, and to have a good time.   It is like riding a ride at amusement park.   You pay to ride the ride and get your thrill.  Same with playing at a casino, you put your money down to ride the ride, win or lose you get your thrill.  Cost of entertainment.  
 

Some people need to have more risk to get that thrill.  That is why there are different  minimum bets and slots.   One player told me that there was no other feeling or rush like $1,000/ hand of 21.  He said that his heart is really pounding and nothing else can do that for him.  He loves the rush and is really addicted to it.  
 

Happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

[grandgeezer]

Back to the point, very little and that's why we've cut back 80% in the last four years. With the changes coming, after if/when they start start back up, that'll will probably change to absolutely nothing. They will have billions of dollars of debt that they didn't have six months ago, that will have to be paid back and they can do that by raising prices and cutting back services and quality of the product.

[shipshape sam]

On 6/3/2020 at 11:23 PM, miched said:

I dealt cards in a casino.   There is no right or wrong way to play a hand.   To say that others don’t play according to the “rules” is BS.   It is their hand, they play ot the way that they want and to say that hitting on 14 when the dealer has 16 is wrong is BS.   
 

I seen it work both ways.  

 

Here is something to think about, playerS will say that the player will need to protect the table by not taking a hit.   He loses but may have won.   The other players win.   Does anyone ever compensate him for his loss because he lost so that you could win?

 

happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

LOL  So true.  I have seen some get up and leave when they felt someone to their right did not play per the 'standard wisdom'

 

Of course the same could be said or poker too. Why do they bluff sometimes, why did they play their hand the way they did.  I play Blackjack my way and for the most part and do  try to 'lose' the least per the experts. But there are times I see lots of small cards and think 'Is a big card due and adjust my play for that hand as an example?'  🙂

Edited June 6, 2020 by shipshape sam

[shipshape sam]

21 hours ago, miched said:

I was normally a relief dealer that would break other tables and games.  If I was on the same 21 table all day with a $5 minimum and the table was always full my drop would be  $17,000 or more shift.  
 

Players lose because believe it or not they don’t really want to win.  If they wanted to win they would leave after winning a few hands and are a head.  They don’t because they didn’t go to a casino to play a few hands, win $20 and then leave.   They are there for entertainment, and to have a good time.   It is like riding a ride at amusement park.   You pay to ride the ride and get your thrill.  Same with playing at a casino, you put your money down to ride the ride, win or lose you get your thrill.  Cost of entertainment.  
 

Some people need to have more risk to get that thrill.  That is why there are different  minimum bets and slots.   One player told me that there was no other feeling or rush like $1,000/ hand of 21.  He said that his heart is really pounding and nothing else can do that for him.  He loves the rush and is really addicted to it.  
 

Happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

I for sure see my time in casino as entertainment and I bet small and win/lose small.  I do have a budget though(entertainment cost limit) For me, I have won just under $500 on a cruise and lost no more than $200.  Typically I win under $100 or lose under $100.  For $500 win I was playing a slot thinking I was betting 2 cents times 40 lines when I was playing the machine default of 25 cents after a few pulls, I won a pot of approx. $450.

 🙂 

Edited June 6, 2020 by shipshape sam

[mek]

I don't miss cruising right now, but I do miss the other things associated with this virus more - like going out to eat,(which has just started back up), going to a movie, babysitting my grandson.

I had a June cruise canceled and another one in November that I will probably Lift and Shift.

I retired in March and I haven't spent any money for the past 3 months except for food and it doesn't appear I will be traveling this year, so I went out and bought a new car on Friday.  It was the most excitement I've had since mid February when I took my last cruise.

[drsel]

I for sure see my time in casino as entertainment and I bet small and win/lose small.  I do have a budget though(entertainment cost limit) For me, I have won just under $500 on a cruise and lost no more than $200.  Typically I win under $100 or lose under $100.  For $500 win I was playing a slot thinking I was betting 2 cents times 40 lines when I was playing the machine default of 25 cents after a few pulls, I won a pot of approx. $450.
 [emoji846] 

The best chances of winning are approximately 47% in craps.
At the other tables, your chances of winning are approximately 44% or less.
Regarding slot machines, it depends on the cruise line, how they set it up.
Since casinos are open only in international waters, they are not governed by any regulation of any country

[m8zenblue]

We really miss meeting new people !

We have met some really wonderful people, some we have remained friends with and have even cruised with them again !